Venting Finally ordered sn

[Rachel74]

Could be taken as a enema?

 

[Bagger]

If have the 000 empty capsules and SN but didn't know this! All i have to do know is set a date.

They should be special capsules, named gastro-resistant or acid resistant capsules according to translator, because I'm not native English speaker and i didn't know how they are called...

 

[Stan]

Thanks Stan but I still see some doubtful bits.

Can you provide a link to or photo of the measuring device you mean?

What are you using for water? Plain tap water? Not always a great idea, I think, and certainly not what hospitals use.

Then ... You're planning to inject 3x roughly 3 g of SN for a total of roughly 9g. Why that amount?

Your reason for deciding on IM rather than IV is just for convenience, and hoping for luck. Fair enough, but as you say there's no guarantee that this is going to work as intended. I think you should emphasize that at the beginning, middle and end of your description.

10cc is a pretty big shot. Will it hurt? Have you tried it with saline solution? Is it something an already-distressed person will be readily able to do three times?

Thanks for not taking offense.

Not at all Soul

You can got to Amazon or ebay. They sell the jugs. I have to underline its the one that measures per ml. Many go in chunks of 10 or 50 which is what you don't want.

You are on the weight thinking, its not weight its volume. So I will be making the syringes out of that one jar of 100ml solution. So to use the example of making 100ml of it and I am going to put a fake number for the weight to help illustrate. Lets say it takes 3gm to make it to the 100ml level. I make 10 X 10cc syringes from that fluid, the average content should be 0.3 gm per syringe. So if the official guidance from the label and medical resources from the pharmaceutical company say two doses can cause fatality, then that's a 0.6gm dose. I am giving myself a 0.9gm dose as I am using 3 syringes. Please remember this weight is fake and only for illustration to help you understand volume vs weight.

Yes its a big shot which also helps to go IM and not IV.. I have had a fair few general anaesthetics and have had more than 10cc shot into me at one time through IV. Regarding the pain, I am sure the needle will make me wince. Regarding the solution burning like acid battery, well the pharmaceutical company and the hospital procedure says nothing about it being painful

I think you maybe overly concerned about the water. I am not giving myself a vitamin shot. Its a medium to dissolve the SN. Its more important that I prepare the syringes properly by not having an air bubble in it. Overload the syringe, point needle up and depress the plunger a bit till the liquid squirts out

I am not telling everyone or anyone to do this, so don't want it to become a factoid. Just sharing something, because I suspect Exit have an account here and they could do some more research on it because the regime seems to be growing every 6 months. And if this works, you can take a 3 day prep time down to 30 minutes.

Could be taken as a enema?

It can, however I would like to die peacefully and with a bit of dignity

 

[Soul]

Not at all Soul

You can got to Amazon or ebay. They sell the jugs. I have to underline its the one that measures per ml. Many go in chunks of 10 or 50 which is what you don't want.

You are on the weight thinking, its not weight its volume. So I will be making the syringes out of that one jar of 100ml solution. So to use the example of making 100ml of it and I am going to put a fake number for the weight to help illustrate. Lets say it takes 3gm to make it to the 100ml level. I make 10 X 10cc syringes from that fluid, the average content should be 0.3 gm per syringe. So if the official guidance from the label and medical resources from the pharmaceutical company say two doses can cause fatality, then that's a 0.6gm dose. I am giving myself a 0.9gm dose as I am using 3 syringes. Please remember this weight is fake and only for illustration to help you understand volume vs weight.

Yes its a big shot which also helps to go IM and not IV.. I have had a fair few general anaesthetics and have had more than 10cc shot into me at one time through IV. Regarding the pain, I am sure the needle will make me wince. Regarding the solution burning like acid battery, well the pharmaceutical company and the hospital procedure says nothing about it being painful

I think you maybe overly concerned about the water. I am not giving myself a vitamin shot. Its a medium to dissolve the SN. Its more important that I prepare the syringes properly by not having an air bubble in it. Overload the syringe, point needle up and depress the plunger a bit till the liquid squirts out

I am not telling everyone or anyone to do this, so don't want it to become a factoid. Just sharing something, because I suspect Exit have an account here and they could do some more research on it because the regime seems to be growing every 6 months. And if this works, you can take a 3 day prep time down to 30 minutes.

It can, however I would like to die peacefully and with a bit of dignity

@Stan, if you're proposing a method then you gots to give clear instructions. This is an international forum. Despairing people who aren't all native speakers of English are struggling to understand things that are literally life-and-death matters.

Why can't you provide a link to or at least show an image of the type of measuring device you mean?

Instead of fake quantities, please use real ones. I can't follow that example at all (and I'm a sober educated native speaker of English).

Of course the instructions for slow IV administration of a solution aiming at saving someone from cyanide poisoning don't mention whether fast IM injections of the same solution would be painful. That doesn't mean they won't be.

And since the method you're proposing is untested, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution? I know you're not recommending that anyone actually try it; neither am I; but if I were to try it I'd definitely use distilled water.

How to Make Saline Solution for the Nose, Kids, and More

Saline solution, which is a simple mixture of salt and water, has many handy uses, from clearing nasal passages, cleaning wounds, and rinsing contact lenses to providing a fun slime project for kids. We’ll tell you how to make saline solution at home and the best ways to use it around your house...

www.healthline.com

@Rachel74, if I recall right a member who's a health-care professional addressed the SN enema question - or was it N? I suggest searching the phrase.

Another partially-relevant link - note the recommended amount of IM administration of normal saline:

https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/can-sterile-normal-saline-used-im-injections-butts-279853

 

[Thanatos]

Hey Thanatos, Your from Canada right? Doesn't your mail get checked for dangerous substances and confiscated in Canada?

Long story but I had n arrive before and this is just an Amazon order lol

 

[RedAlert]

Long story but I had n arrive before and this is just an Amazon order lol

Wow that's great news. Maybe i can get my hands on the stuff after all.

Thanks for the reply and i wish you luck in whatever you choose to do.

 

[Stan]

@Stan, if you're proposing a method then you gots to give clear instructions. This is an international forum. Despairing people who aren't all native speakers of English are struggling to understand things that are literally life-and-death matters.

To be honest, if my description of how I have explained it makes no sense, then I would ignore it and just continue with the tried and tested method. Not sure I could explain it any easier unless someone else wants to paraphrase my thoughts into an easier way.

 

[Bluma180]

I am curious to hear more about use of capsules, as I don't have a read yet on their efficacy. I believe a member recently tried 00 caps and wasn't successful, maybe their were other factors involved?

 

[sleepy dog]

I have no medical education but it seems using capsules might be a problem. Your system has to become "overwhelmed" by the effect of the SN. Capsules will release it slowly won't they. Capsules might be the worst way to use it.

Long story but I had n arrive before and this is just an Amazon order lol

You had N? What happened? Why did you not use it. The long version is fine.

 

[Soul]

To be honest, if my description of how I have explained it makes no sense, then I would ignore it and just continue with the tried and tested method. Not sure I could explain it any easier unless someone else wants to paraphrase my thoughts into an easier way.

@Stan, maybe your description will be clearer after you've given the method a trial run and we aren't all merely speculating. Be careful.

 

[Stan]

yeah - after research its a bad idea regarding injecting either IV or IM. Oral is the only way to go

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

If you are that scared of throwing up, inject it. Its a proven medical treatment

Phew! Thank goodness for being a diabetic and having diabetic syringes!!!

 

[trynacbt]

Phew! Thank goodness for being a diabetic and having diabetic syringes!!!

Please take note of @Stan 's post--injecting isn't a good idea and can be painful.

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

Please take note of @Stan 's post--injecting isn't a good idea and can be painful.

It was only a joke. Lol

 

[Bagger]

Is this even true?

Yeah, it is, but the capsules needs to be a special kind, long lasting, acid resistant or something, I completely forgotten how they are professionally called.

 

[trynacbt]

It was only a joke. Lol

Woops, my b.

 

[Thanatos]

Thinking of the enema route if injection isn't actually doable. I also ordered capsules but am not sure they are good enough

 

[HellLife2]

Would capsules really reduce the chance of vomiting versus mixing it in water? Not sure I can get meto or a dopamine blocker

 

[Morphosis]

Could be taken as a enema?

You could in theory but again volume would be important. You would need to minimise the actual amount of liquid going up your bum or risk a Vesuvius-like eruption

 

[k75]

Would capsules really reduce the chance of vomiting versus mixing it in water? Not sure I can get meto or a dopamine blocker

NO

The logic behind using capsules is to avoid tasting it. It will do nothing to help avoid vomiting. Some people don't throw up, but you cannot assume you will be so lucky. You are ingesting poison, and your body will attempt to purge it when it hits your system.

Also, capsules might slow absorption time, meaning the SN will take longer to work and you have increased risk of feeling undesirable side effects.

 

[Girobatol]

It surprises me weed is said to work. I'd throw up just from weed, cannot stand the thing.

Last time somebody did it without the AE, relying on antipsychotics' side effets, they failed.

What you mean is that antipsychotics don´t work as antiemetics (both dopamine blockers)?

 

[k75]

What you mean is that antipsychotics don´t work as antiemetics (both dopamine blockers)?

The thing about antipsychotics as antiemetics is that effectiveness depends on the dose.

It requires different amounts for psychiatric uses vs antiemetic uses. You have to figure out how much to take to make it do what you need.

I know this because I have a cancer history and some of my antiemetics during chemo were meds like Zyprexa.

 

[Girobatol]

The thing about antipsychotics as antiemetics is that effectiveness depends on the dose.

It requires different amounts for psychiatric uses vs antiemetic uses. You have to figure out how much to take to make it do what you need.

I know this because I have a cancer history and some of my antiemetics during chemo were meds like Zyprexa.

Yes I take zyprexa for bipolar and it has heavy interaction with meto. I have the N, but can´t take meto so I´m scared to fail.

 

[trynacbt]

Yes I take zyprexa for bipolar and it has heavy interaction with meto. I have the N, but can´t take meto so I´m scared to fail.

Is getting off the Zyprexa some time beforehand an option for you? I take that too, but my dose is small enough that it won't be a big deal for me to get off of it before I try SN.

 

[justwhy?]

yeah - after research its a bad idea regarding injecting either IV or IM. Oral is the only way to go

I'd love an expansion on that Stan, with source links if possible

 

[Stan]

I'd love an expansion on that Stan, with source links if possible

happy to help but not sure what you would like me to expand upon

 

[justwhy?]

happy to help but not sure what you would like me to expand upon

well in one post you detailed your plan for IM, the next you disavowed it without explanation...

 

[Stan]

well in one post you detailed your plan for IM, the next you disavowed it without explanation...

I still stand by the principle that it could be done but the research hit a dead end for the following reasons. So with my amateur sleuth hat on and absolutely no medical training, my big concerns are the following:

1. No way of determining the correct dose for SN entering the bloodstream rather than ingestion, Absolutely vital information
2. Without knowing dosage, can't say how many injections is needed. My last guess was about 40ml of a 3% solution IV to achieve the goal, that is a lot to inject!
3. Even though it can be delivered IM, IV would be the quickest way. That's a skill that I and many others don't posses in completing
4. Vials of SN solution can be bought only through medical suppliers. The process for making a 'home made' 3% solution carries far too many risks.
5. SN is an irritant to skin, when used in the treatment of cyanide poisoning it is delivered by a slow IV injection. There must be a reason for it being slow which I cannot find, is it because it is an irritant? Would the vein close up if a large amount was administered quickly?

So in principle you could do it. Just that I don't know how to inject that much fluid IV in a very short time span on my own or get the pharma grade SN vials.

Apologies if its a bit 'flim flam' as I was quite excited by the thought initially of doing SN without regimen and some unpleasantness regarding drinking it, but I'm afraid going IV would probably need some clinical apparatus setup to achieve it and a far more educated brain than I to actually say how it should be done.

No source links, just old Dr Frankenstein here cobbling snippets of information together. It was when I was looking at the potential dosage and the quality of a home made 3% solution I decided the risks were too large and I was not ready to be a lab rat for the process.

 

[justwhy?]

I still stand by the principle that it could be done but the research hit a dead end for the following reasons. So with my amateur sleuth hat on and absolutely no medical training, my big concerns are the following:

1. No way of determining the correct dose for SN entering the bloodstream rather than ingestion, Absolutely vital information
2. Without knowing dosage, can't say how many injections is needed. My last guess was about 40ml of a 3% solution IV to achieve the goal, that is a lot to inject!
3. Even though it can be delivered IM, IV would be the quickest way. That's a skill that I and many others don't posses in completing
4. Vials of SN solution can be bought only through medical suppliers. The process for making a 'home made' 3% solution carries far too many risks.
5. SN is an irritant to skin, when used in the treatment of cyanide poisoning it is delivered by a slow IV injection. There must be a reason for it being slow which I cannot find, is it because it is an irritant? Would the vein close up if a large amount was administered quickly?

So in principle you could do it. Just that I don't know how to inject that much fluid IV in a very short time span on my own or get the pharma grade SN vials.

Apologies if its a bit 'flim flam' as I was quite excited by the thought initially of doing SN without regimen and some unpleasantness regarding drinking it, but I'm afraid going IV would probably need some clinical apparatus setup to achieve it and a far more educated brain than I to actually say how it should be done.

No source links, just old Dr Frankenstein here cobbling snippets of information together. It was when I was looking at the potential dosage and the quality of a home made 3% solution I decided the risks were too large and I was not ready to be a lab rat for the process.

Thanks Stan, really appreciate you taking the time. You seem to be a great contributor here.

 

[Stan]

Thanks Stan, really appreciate you taking the time. You seem to be a great contributor here.

Thank you. I was a bit premature with my eureka moment. Be nice if someone from the Exit group took a look at that theory as I am sure they have access to the medical field to see if there is another alternative to drinking it.