Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[SomewhereAlongThe]

Тhere is my bag
Perhaps, the tube is too long, I don't feel gas move around the neck

Тhere is my installation



I сan't screw to the end

Maybe that's the problem, you should be screwing the regulator on all the way, or leaks will happen. If you have leaks in the setup, it'll take longer for the bag to fill up. But if you can't screw it all the way, you should get a different regulator.

 

[Allla]

Может быть, проблема в этом, вам следует закрутить регулятор до упора, иначе будут протечки. Если у вас есть протечки в установке, то мешок будет наполняться дольше. Но если вы не можете закрутить его до упора, вам следует купить другой регулятор.

Тhank you, I will think about it)

 

[exitingtothevoid]

Тhere is my bag
Perhaps, the tube is too long, I don't feel gas move around the neck

The tube length looks okay to me.

How long did the bag take to inflate when you had it around your forehead? It should only take about a minute, maybe less since you were using a higher LPM.

Can you feel any leaks around the regulator?

 

[jamesu7777]

Would this work for an exit bag?

Amazon.com

 

[Allla]

Длина трубки мне кажется подходящей.

Сколько времени потребовалось, чтобы надуть мешок, когда вы надели его на лоб? Это должно занять около минуты, может быть меньше, так как вы использовали более высокий LPM.

Чувствуете ли вы какие-либо утечки вокруг регулятора?

Более 7 минут. The bag was not straightened.
I don't feel leaks near regulator

Длина трубки мне кажется подходящей.

Сколько времени потребовалось, чтобы надуть мешок, когда вы надели его на лоб? Это должно занять около минуты, может быть меньше, так как вы использовали более высокий LPM.

Чувствуете ли вы какие-либо утечки вокруг регулятора?

The tube length looks okay to me.

How long did the bag take to inflate when you had it around your forehead? It should only take about a minute, maybe less since you were using a higher LPM.

Can you feel any leaks around the regulator?

Inner diameter of the tube must be 6 mm or 9 mm?

 

[Allla]

Я понял. Это неправильный редуктор. Я много раз спрашивал о 15 л/мин и продавец сказал Да, но сегодня он пишет очень маленькое значение. Красные цифры означают не литр/мин, а м3 в час

 

[Allla]

Мay anybody give me a photo with the scale of normal reducer? Please) I need it very much

 

[LeoSS]

Help me understand. The flow rate is supposed to be 15 liters per minute(LPM). The regulator gauges are in PSI and BAR. What is the flow rate that I'm supposed to set in PSI or BAR? Thank you.

 

[Allla]

Помогите мне понять. Расход должен быть 15 литров в минуту (LPM). Манометры регулятора в PSI и BAR. Какой расход я должен установить в PSI или BAR? Спасибо.

It's interesting for me very much too

Помогите мне понять. Расход должен быть 15 литров в минуту (LPM). Манометры регулятора в PSI и BAR. Какой расход я должен установить в PSI или BAR? Спасибо.

Тhere are MPa also everywhere in Russia.

 

[LeoSS]

The Americana click style nitrogen regulator from EscMode

Do you have some additional information, outrider? For example, who makes or sells this regulator? What is its actual name or model number? What is EscMode? Thanks.

 

[outrider567]

Do you have some additional information, outrider? For example, who makes or sells this regulator? What is its actual name or model number? What is EscMode? Thanks.

EscMode is defunct--It was the Canadian company that Kenneth Law ran, Canadian authorities were not amused that he had such a big operation, and arrested him a few months ago, he'll go to trial soon

 

[LeoSS]

EscMode is defunct--It was the Canadian company that Kenneth Law ran, Canadian authorities were not amused that he had such a big operation, and arrested him a few months ago, he'll go to trial soon

Thanks, outrider. Much like MaxDog, if they were selling regulators they were likely not manufacturing them. Medline here in the US and Cramer Decker Medical seem to be sources of the regulators with the black dial on the side. Do you have one of those? If so is there any additional information on the regulator itself?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Help me understand. The flow rate is supposed to be 15 liters per minute(LPM). The regulator gauges are in PSI and BAR. What is the flow rate that I'm supposed to set in PSI or BAR? Thank you.

From what I've read you can use an argon regulator, but instead of 15 lpm it needs to 17 lpm because helium/nitrogen and argon are not the same. There's been some discussion about that conversion, so I'm not 100% sure.

The argon regulator needs to have compatible connections to the tank and I don't think you can connect a 200 bar regulator to a 300 bar ank for instance.

Edit: Correction, I changed psi to bar.

 

[outrider567]

Thanks, outrider. Much like MaxDog, if they were selling regulators they were likely not manufacturing them. Medline here in the US and Cramer Decker Medical seem to be sources of the regulators with the black dial on the side. Do you have one of those? If so is there any additional information on the regulator itself?

I have a 'click' style regulator/flowmeter, you click the LPM rate by turning a black knob

 

[Allla]

I found such regulator with a flask, but my mood spoiled

 

[emptyh]

Several people in the US have mentioned Airgas as a source for nitrogen. Can you buy everything you need (tank, regulator, hose, etc.) from that type of store or do they just fill tanks that customers bring in?

Thanks!

 

[mercifulend]

Could I use a supplied air mask in place of a bag? I have concerns about the bag coming off.

I was looking at this mask:

Allegro 9901 Low Pressure Supplied Air Full Mask-Universal Size

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There's also a high pressure version. Im unsure which one would be preferable. Thanks in advance for any insight

 

[SomewhereAlongThe]

I need an excuse for picking up a nitrogen cylinder.

So far I told them that I have a boyfriend that uses it for his business, but what business? I'm picking up an 80 cuft cylinder (size 16) so it's quite a bit of nitrogen.

What can I say he does?

 

[Msvr]

Several people in the US have mentioned Airgas as a source for nitrogen. Can you buy everything you need (tank, regulator, hose, etc.) from that type of store or do they just fill tanks that customers bring in?

Thanks!

Airgas won't sell regulators, you'll need to buy those online. If you are in a situation where you can't order items to your house, there are stores where you could have shipped to the store for pickup. Grainger for example.
As for the hose, you won't find that at Airgas either. You need a 1/4 inch medical hose, you may need to order that online from Amazon or whatever. A pharmacy like CVS or Walgreens may have some in store

I need an excuse for picking up a nitrogen cylinder.

So far I told them that I have a boyfriend that uses it for his business, but what business? I'm picking up an 80 cuft cylinder (size 16) so it's quite a bit of nitrogen.

What can I say he does?

I can't speak for all experiences ofc, but when I purchased my N2 from Airgas they didn't ask me any questions. I was in and out in 2 minutes. If you have to say something you could say laser cutting. The welding shop employee isn't likely to know much about that to question you. Just spend a few minutes online/chatgpt learning the basics.
Also I wouldn't say that it's for a business, just say hobby projects. Businesses would typically use like 300 cu ft tanks, and it might seem odd to the employee that your boyfriend doesn't just have a supplier already set up.

 

[kudaphillips]

I need an excuse for picking up a nitrogen cylinder.

So far I told them that I have a boyfriend that uses it for his business, but what business? I'm picking up an 80 cuft cylinder (size 16) so it's quite a bit of nitrogen.

What can I say he does?

If they do ask which they shouldn't , just keep it simple I wouldn't even do any research or anything , just say getting it for my boss / running an errand for your boss/ running errand for your friend and I have no idea why he needs it if you act like you know what it's for and they keep asking questions they'll know you don't know shit . This happened to me once wish would played more dumb rather than act like I was a welder

 

[mercifulend]

Several people in the US have mentioned Airgas as a source for nitrogen. Can you buy everything you need (tank, regulator, hose, etc.) from that type of store or do they just fill tanks that customers bring in?

Thanks!

If you don't want to/can't order online:

You can get a hose at most hardware stores. I have bought them at Home Depot before.

You can find a regulator at Harbor Freight or Tractor Supply.

 

[Mitch3ll]

Oh man I really messed up today. My first real attempt at doing the deed and I absolutely panicked and had to massive abort. Which sucks because I don't know if I'll have a place to stay tonight or the future and my setup isn't exactly discreet and easily moved. So I've got a fairly large bag which easily could contribute to my failure. It's one of the 5gal pail liners. Took a minute to fill, and actually had to do it twice because I discovered that the hose barb connector wasn't tightened properly and had a bit of a leak. Second attempt again super focused on the procedure and the bag fill & my body position that once it was time to pull the bag down I had forgotten to exhale prior to pulling it down. So now I'm kinda overwhelmed by the procedure with the bag on my head and start breathing faster then I realized that there was a bunch of exhaled co2 in the space. My brain panicked and I got scared so I aborted. Oh man. So now I'm scared about whether I'm going to finally get the boot tonight or if I'll have another chance. But I'm so scared to try again. I don't actually want to die, but don't want to be on the street (living on gov disability).
Anyways. Fear is great & absolute bullsh*t as well.

 

[mrwizard11]

Is a non-rebreather (NRB) mask (the oxygen type mask with the bag attached) effective? If not, where can I get a full face mask for use with Nitrogen? Please DM if necessary. I'm in the US.

 

[Mitch3ll]

So I posted the other day about my experience. just two posts up I think. Something I've noticed is .. well I'm way too scared to try it again. Even with being faced with homelessness in the next few day, being broke and winter coming. The first experience was just too traumatic. The other thing I noticed and I'm still feeling it, is a sharp pinch, or pain kind of dead centre in my head. I first noticed it when I thought maybe I was getting too much Co2 and I bailed. But a few days later. That pain or discomfort is still there. Anyone have any experience with head pain after an attempt. I don't have access to a doctor to begin with... but say it gets worse... how do I even begin to explain this pain. haha... sooooo you see.. there was a giant bag full of nitrogen that just so happened to land on my head, weirdest thing ever.

 

[snailluvr]

this is a very silly question, but I'm planning on doing this at a hotel with an argon tank. is the tank going to be loud and draw attention to my room? will the gas set off alarms? again, silly question but i want to make sure this goes perfectly

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

So I posted the other day about my experience. just two posts up I think. Something I've noticed is .. well I'm way too scared to try it again. Even with being faced with homelessness in the next few day, being broke and winter coming. The first experience was just too traumatic. The other thing I noticed and I'm still feeling it, is a sharp pinch, or pain kind of dead centre in my head. I first noticed it when I thought maybe I was getting too much Co2 and I bailed. But a few days later. That pain or discomfort is still there. Anyone have any experience with head pain after an attempt. I don't have access to a doctor to begin with... but say it gets worse... how do I even begin to explain this pain. haha... sooooo you see.. there was a giant bag full of nitrogen that just so happened to land on my head, weirdest thing ever.

I've read people having a headache after a test run, so I don't think it's uncommon. It probably has something to do with the extra stress you're experiencing as well.

 

[kudaphillips]

So I posted the other day about my experience. just two posts up I think. Something I've noticed is .. well I'm way too scared to try it again. Even with being faced with homelessness in the next few day, being broke and winter coming. The first experience was just too traumatic. The other thing I noticed and I'm still feeling it, is a sharp pinch, or pain kind of dead centre in my head. I first noticed it when I thought maybe I was getting too much Co2 and I bailed. But a few days later. That pain or discomfort is still there. Anyone have any experience with head pain after an attempt. I don't have access to a doctor to begin with... but say it gets worse... how do I even begin to explain this pain. haha... sooooo you see.. there was a giant bag full of nitrogen that just so happened to land on my head, weirdest thing ever.

I'm not sure what nature of your ailments are , but my opinion ( and I'm pretty confident) is that from the trauma and stress of the experience you induced some symptoms , stress related , nervous system rerated. You are already in an extremely stressed situation , ( as we all are ) . Pretty confident inert gas wouldn't do anything like this UNLESS you were oxygen deprived enough where you went unconscious., then anything is on the table .

 

[mrwizard11]

this is a very silly question, but I'm planning on doing this at a hotel with an argon tank. is the tank going to be loud and draw attention to my room? will the gas set off alarms? again, silly question but i want to make sure this goes perfectly

No. It is highly unlikely the hotel would have gas detectors in a hotel room. The sound of the gas escaping is very quiet, assuming you are using a regulator. If you open the tank without a regulator, it will make a very high pitched sound of air escaping a very small hole.

 

[kudaphillips]

No. It is highly unlikely the hotel would have gas detectors in a hotel room. The sound of the gas escaping is very quiet, assuming you are using a regulator. If you open the tank without a regulator, it will make a very high pitched sound of air escaping a very small hole.

Not only unlikely , it's not possible . Most of the air we breathe is the same composition as what's coming out of the tank . Also it really isn't that loud . The tv on mid volume would probably mask any noise from the tank

 

[Kawaii_Shoujo215]

Where should I store the nitrogen cylinder? I was going to put it in the closet next to my bed but ChatGPT said it can be hazardous since a leak could cause oxygen displacement, or it could get damaged and fly off or burst like a grenade, etc.

Is this just exaggerated and it's fine for me to store it in the closet, or should I really put it elsewhere? I don't really have another place to put it where it won't be discovered.