Does DPH help with SI?

[burninghill]

By DPH, I am referring to Diphenhydramine, which is found in sleeping medication like Nytol.

I'm trying to find an alternative to benzos, something that doesn't require a prescription and that will dull my senses a bit. I'm happy to overdose on medication.
I've heard mixed things, some people say that this can make you more jittery/ anxious. I'm open to trying everything, even if it makes me less sedated and more wired and impulsive.

I have a 20 pack of 50MG. I'm also wondering what's considered a 'recreational dose' that causes trips? 400mg?

Also looking for other non-prescription medication options for dulling SI (not for the suicide itself) and info about taking DPH with alcohol.

 

[Butterfly-death]

I'm gonna be honest you shouldn't even be using dph for sleep I know people do but really there's better ways to sleep also it's better used for allergy. As for SI I haven't heard about it but I know taking too much dph (even in normal dose too often) is linked to risk of dementia. I have taken hydroxyzine an antihistamine (basically diphenhydramine's cousin, same drug class) and it didn't help with SI so I highly doubt dph would (I stopped taking hydroxyzine because it's almost as bad as dph and makes you groggy the next day which I believe dph does too).

I would figure something else out that's better for SI

If you're looking for a similar effect that dph has maybe melatonin? Not sure if it would help your SI but it's better for you than dph for calming your mind at least

 

[burninghill]

I'm gonna be honest you shouldn't even be using dph for sleep I know people do but really there's better ways to sleep also it's better used for allergy. As for SI I haven't heard about it but I know taking too much dph (even in normal dose too often) is linked to risk of dementia. I have taken hydroxyzine an antihistamine (basically diphenhydramine's cousin, same drug class) and it didn't help with SI so I highly doubt dph would (I stopped taking hydroxyzine because it's almost as bad as dph and makes you groggy the next day which I believe dph does too).

I would figure something else out that's better for SI

If you're looking for a similar effect that dph has maybe melatonin? Not sure if it would help your SI but it's better for you than dph for calming your mind at least

Thank you for the info. I've searched a few threads on here about DPH but am having a hard time finding concrete info, a few people have said it works, some said it's a decent last resort.

Would using alcohol at the same time positively or negatively affect the results?

I think I'll take some on a night where there's nothing really going on the next day and see how it makes me feel.
I'm open to trying melatonin, but it's a bit harder to get ahold of from what I have seen.

 

[Butterfly-death]

Thank you for the info. I've searched a few threads on here about DPH but am having a hard time finding concrete info, a few people have said it works, some said it's a decent last resort.

Would using alcohol at the same time positively or negatively affect the results?

I think I'll take some on a night where there's nothing really going on the next day and see how it makes me feel.
I'm open to trying melatonin, but it's a bit harder to get ahold of from what I have seen.

Dph isn't all bad I just mean it's not like an everyday thing maybe once in awhile for sleep if you use one or two pills but not SI

With alcohol it will increase the side effects so I would say negative also it can cause respiratory depression and overdose (and don't get excited that you can ctb in these ways because if you could more of us would be doing it)

If you want to try dph you can I cant stop you just don't depend on it a lot same with alcohol

 

[burninghill]

Boost, still looking for more info and other opinions

 

[DeersCanTalk]

Hi I have some experience since i used to take this recreationally for a bit some months ago when i had nothing else, the dosage for recreational use depends on your weight and height but when i used it i usually took 300 mg up to 1200 mg at most (I'm 6'2 and weighed 155/160 at the time for some reference)

You will "trip" if you can even call it that when you take a high dose, more like armageddon inside your body and mind for hours until you're able to sleep or pass out. I wouldn't call it a sedative, it makes you barely able to walk and extremely sluggish, mentally you will not be all there but still somewhat aware and suffering (paranoia, audible hallucinations, visual hallucinations, horrible anxiety, impending doom). It feels like your hearing has been turned up to 110 percent and everything makes you jump, i recall becoming extremely scared of the sound door handles make and knocking.

Is it calmaben that you have? I really hope you reconsider taking this, it's horrible.

Lyrica seems to kinda fit what your after, it makes you sedated and impulsive at higher doses and isn't hard to get. Wishing u luck <3

 

[a4001]

"Recreational" doses would be anywhere from 250mg to 1g. I've taken it a couple of times but I wouldn't reccomend it for basically any reason. My doses were around 300-500mg, enough to very vividly see a nest of nonexistent spiders reproducing on my bed, and they kind of impair executive function to a point where the effectiveness of any plan would be at serious risk. There's any number of things that you could accidentally mess up with whatever method you're planning on using. Makes you physically uncomfortable, paranoid, and deluded, all of which decrease ur odds of success imo.