Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[Dejected 55]

There is another thread on here about "what if the Purge was real" and we're about a hair away from that. If the argument is so easily that it is okay to shoot people because you disagree, even if they say horrible things as is their right (supposedly) to do... if you are fine settling everything with a bullet to the head rather than debate, elections, police, justice, etc.

Then, everyone should just go and get a gun and have it out tomorrow. Whichever side kills all the other side wins... then you'll all agree and be peaceful after that, right? No? Wait, you don't all agree on all the same things even though you were on the same side? Okay, keep going, divide into "teams" and do it over again.

Eventually there will be one person left and he will agree with himself, but he will be alone... and he will shoot himself in the head because what's the point.

If we aren't even going to pretend to have a civilization anymore, and we want to have chaos and kill or be killed... just do it. Abolish all the laws, then it's legal to kill whomever you want for whatever reason. Wait? What's that? You don't want people to shoot you, but it's okay for you to shoot them? See, that doesn't work... because once you decide it's okay to shoot people to "solve" problems... that's the rule... and it applies to everyone.

Good luck with all the hate!

 

[Pessimist]

watering down this whole situation as "people shouldn't die for their opinions!" is a joke. call it what it is. just say that you don't think people should die for advocating for murder and genocide. say that you don't think people should die because they're nazis. if you don't like the way that sounds, then maybe your belief is just stupid.

I've never heard Kirk advocating for murder, but even if he did it doesn't justify murdering him lol. Murdering people is worse than advocating for murder. Also, actual Nazis like Nick Fuentes and David Duke disliked Kirk because he was a pro-Israel guy. So you're using the wrong terms.

There is another thread on here about "what if the Purge was real" and we're about a hair away from that. If the argument is so easily that it is okay to shoot people because you disagree, even if they say horrible things as is their right (supposedly) to do... if you are fine settling everything with a bullet to the head rather than debate, elections, police, justice, etc.

Then, everyone should just go and get a gun and have it out tomorrow. Whichever side kills all the other side wins... then you'll all agree and be peaceful after that, right? No? Wait, you don't all agree on all the same things even though you were on the same side? Okay, keep going, divide into "teams" and do it over again.

Eventually there will be one person left and he will agree with himself, but he will be alone... and he will shoot himself in the head because what's the point.

If we aren't even going to pretend to have a civilization anymore, and we want to have chaos and kill or be killed... just do it. Abolish all the laws, then it's legal to kill whomever you want for whatever reason. Wait? What's that? You don't want people to shoot you, but it's okay for you to shoot them? See, that doesn't work... because once you decide it's okay to shoot people to "solve" problems... that's the rule... and it applies to everyone.

Good luck with all the hate!

Agreed. I'm honestly surprised by how idiotic and violent some leftists can be.

 

[The Hermit]

Did you read the rest of that reply, and notice that I was not specifically replying to you?
We appear to be on the same side of this, pal...

I know. My bad. I got defensive.

Had a rough night, and today I'm going to be anticipating a possibly extremely stressful weekend.

I didn't mean to have you catch a stray.

*flies away*

 

[Bad Karma]

i agree with this wholeheartedly. i just can't stand behind political violence, no matter who it's aimed at. even if the person was known for spreading hate. it doesn't bring real change and it definitely shouldn't be treated like something to celebrate. think about when luigi mangione assassinated that health care ceo last year, people called him a hero for fighting back against corporate greed. but in the end nothing changed. the healthcare system stayed the same and the act only caused more division. or when shinzo abe, japan's former prime minister, was killed in 2022 by someone angry over his ties to a controversial religious group. some people online saw it as justice, but it didn't actually take down the organization or reshape japan's politics. instead it just created more arguments and fear without solving the deeper problems.

that's why it feels so wrong to see other leftists celebrating charlie kirk's death. how far gone do you have to be to cheer for someone dying. he had a wife and two little kids who are now growing up without their dad. whether you liked him or not, that's heartbreaking. violence doesn't heal or fix anything, it just leaves more pain behind.

 

[PixelAngel]

I'm not celebrating murder (edit: nor his death). I'm celebrating hubris and irony. I already believed gun violence and murder are wrong, and Charlie believed they were a necessary expense for broad uncontrolled gun ownership. I'm terribly sorry his kids are fatherless. We tried to tell him this was a possibility. He didn't listen.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

i agree with this wholeheartedly. i just can't stand behind political violence, no matter who it's aimed at. even if the person was known for spreading hate. it doesn't bring real change and it definitely shouldn't be treated like something to celebrate. think about when luigi mangione assassinated that health care ceo last year, people called him a hero for fighting back against corporate greed. but in the end nothing changed. the healthcare system stayed the same and the act only caused more division. or when shinzo abe, japan's former prime minister, was killed in 2022 by someone angry over his ties to a controversial religious group. some people online saw it as justice, but it didn't actually take down the organization or reshape japan's politics. instead it just created more arguments and fear without solving the deeper problems.

that's why it feels so wrong to see other leftists celebrating charlie kirk's death. how far gone do you have to be to cheer for someone dying. he had a wife and two little kids who are now growing up without their dad. whether you liked him or not, that's heartbreaking. violence doesn't heal or fix anything, it just leaves more pain behind.

If a kind of activity doesn't bring real change then it wasn't done enough times. If people want it the other way, I was always available but got stepped on and spit on every time, should I still offer myself to people as a carpet over and over again and hope something gets done? No. The child self that wanted peace and utopia can't exist in this world the way it is, that child self will only get used up by everyone, in whatever sadistic way they wish.

Also, many people miss the fact that while this looks like it should, a public execution made with the executioner being an angry random person; you shouldn't discredit the fact that America has a massive problem by having a President who is involved with a certain Einstein that loved little math kits , that President just had a BIG LEAK regarding a letter to his friend, Einstein. Sacrificial pawn from chess doesn't sound that far fetched of a fate for this Kirk guy.

Yes I know it sounds like a conspiracy but who knows. It's not something that never has happened and it all circles back to my original comment, if we had no power, if we were weak, we'd be easy to manipulate, easy to beat, considering that a good theory is that Kirk was intentionally killed to mask more of the Epstein files, if that is true then that's good, they fear us, they should.

 

[The Hermit]

I'm honestly surprised by how idiotic and violent some leftists can be.

Meanwhile, it turns out that the shooter was a Nick Fuentes-loving Groyper from a conservative, gun-toting, Trump-loving family.