Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[Mirelight]

he was a hateful asshole
but he didn't deserve to die
nobody deserves to die unless they themselves want to

 

[Hvergelmir]

Fucking educate yourself this is the information age for christ's sake; i'd never heard of the prick till yesterday but I already made you a summary holy shit

Does his propaganda really deserve my attention?
Not to question the veracity of your summary, but I simply can't get an accurate picture without dissecting arguments and cross checking sources. I think there are better ways to spend my time. The exact nature of his work is irrelevant to me, and that's also what I tried to communicate.

Your level of disrespect is unwarranted.

 

[555]

rest in piss

 

[Hellis]

People debated nazis all the time. They still did the holocaust.

Remember when we won WW2 with words and kindness LOL

Are you guys brave enough to post how hilarious this murder was from your personal x or ig accounts?

They're permanently archiving your kind for future generations.

Expose Charlie's Murderers

www.charliesmurderers.com

Not the intended message, but it's important to note that people are willing to threaten over these beliefs. Be careful who you confide in and be smart about it. Even if we are all suicide fools, you probably don't want to lose your life to Mr mcgregor the local football coach with an AR-15 because of Charlie fucking Kirk. Stay safe guys.

 

[Dejected 55]

I did not like Charlie Kirk. I never heard anything that I agreed with that he said or supported. I don't otherwise know very much about him.

But he didn't deserve being shot to death as he was. His family didn't deserve that.

I don't have to say anything nice about him. I don't have to mourn him. I can say anything I want, because we do have free speech. Ironically the same free speech he had that some people say he deserved to be shot for exercising. What I can do is speak out against killing others for what they say, simply because they said it. I can also otherwise be silent about him and his beliefs because I believe in civility and decency, things that seem to be rare these days.

When the people who tell you loudly how they are the good guys cheer a sniper shot of a guy who was just talking on a college campus... I doubt they are the good guys. The good guys do not kill indiscriminately, and they don't cheer when it happens, even to their purported enemy.

In war people kill and are killed. In war. Are we at war? Has a war been declared? Stop with the Hitler stuff... if all Hitler ever did was write a book and say horrible things, then he wouldn't have deserved random sniper fire either... but Hitler was elected to lead his country and he led it down a horrible path to try and take over the world and commit atrocities along the way. In the end, ironically for this forum, Hitler took his own life in his bunker when he saw how things were going to end for him as he was losing the war he started. There is no comparison to Hitler here that makes any sense.

You don't have to like Kirk, you don't have to mourn him, but cheering his murder is chilling. Anyone who does that doesn't want to be part of a civil society. The person who shot him doesn't want to be part of a civil society. No civil person should want that. Such paths lead to horror very quickly.

I can't even with this anymore. I don't like being put in the position to even seem like I'm defending the man's views... because I'm not. I just believe in the freedoms we are supposed to have in this country to voice our views, and especially to do so without being shot in the head in public just for saying words. But I've got my own shit to deal with and the public reaction to celebrate this man being shot like that does not at all make me want to be a part of this world even if I could overcome other things. This shit just makes me more than ever certain that the world is horrible, even the people who shroud themselves in "good" are at heart evil and want to kill just as much as the others do and declare themselves righteous for doing so.

I think I'm done with this conversation now, and hopefully close to done with the world.