Help bitcoin / buying on dark web

[enjolras]

My mind is exploding just reading this... actually doing it would send me off the deep end. All of your brains are so sharp..

Not really, we're just a generation of geeks. Well, I'm in between. You could ask to get helped by someone you trust

 

[rikamonie]

Ok that's new


why would he enable a XMR address if then he refuses it, have you asked ? Could you withdraw autonomously or did you have to request a manual processing with his help ?

i didnt ask, i could withdraw immediately but there was a 2% fee

 

[enjolras]

i didnt ask, i could withdraw immediately but there was a 2% fee

here comes a businessman :) the transaction fees for Monero are virtually 0, a few cents typically, so he makes a profit on this trap

 

[rikamonie]

i am trying to change my monero to bitcoin but when i put in the address to send the bitcoin to bitcoin wallet and then click exchange it says "you will send monero to the address above" and the address is not the one i put in... is that right? i feel like in going nuts

 

[Living sucks]

Not really, we're just a generation of geeks. Well, I'm in between. You could asked to get helped by someone you trust

If I was really doing this, I would only use trusted sources

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You're just asking to be identified by moving your money from an exchange --> wallet --> to EM. 100% I would not recommend this

Moving BTC through intermediary wallets or exchanging from BTC --> Monero --> BTC are much safer ways. The latter being ideally the best. All exchanges are legally required to ID you. There are very few ways of anonymously buying cryptocurrency.

Another problem with your approach is that it is way to complicated for a large section of suicidal people. Some are a little older (boomers), some have cognitive impairments, some are simply too depressed. I think you are misrepresenting the actual risk of not having enough anonymity when buying a substance to kill yourself, at least in most western democracies (sans Australia and other more authoritarian countries).

 

[enjolras]

i am trying to change my monero to bitcoin but when i put in the address to send the bitcoin to bitcoin wallet and then click exchange it says "you will send monero to the address above" and the address is not the one i put in... is that right? i feel like in going nuts

is your XMR already at disposal into Cake ?
then on the Exchange tab, XMR>BTC, you just input the BTC destination address

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Different people have different levels of paranoia or need for safety. This is the low level approach.

The question I asked myself is this: who is going to bother doing all this work to identify a one time drug offender?

The point I'm making that by you recommending people blanket advice that isn't at all safe, you're making it much more easier for the feds to catch on who is purchasing N. The trade is becoming less and less anonymous. It's way too easy for an exchange to get a subpoena in the mail and associate the BTC address to the buyer.

 

[rikamonie]

is your XMR already at disposition into Cake ?
then on the Exchange tab, XMR>BTC, you just input the BTC destination address

yeah, i was just concerned because after i did that it says a random address and says its going there, probably meant to be like that but i have lost too many brain cells from doing this all day, im going to continue tomorrow when my brain comes back

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Another problem with your approach is that it is way to complicated for a large section of suicidal people. Some are a little older (boomers), some have cognitive impairments, some are simply too depressed. I think you are misrepresenting the actual risk of not having enough anonymity when buying a substance to kill yourself, at least in most western democracies (sans Australia and other more authoritarian countries).

I've given two half-ass graphical demonstrations on how to do this without posing much of a risk to anyone purchasing from A or C. I'm not misrepresenting anyone. These practices are all safe and easy to do. I think setting up PGP is way harder than this. Reminder that purchasing from C you have to use PGP! It strikes me as odd that you think practicing these safe practices are difficult, meanwhile setting up PGP and encrypting your information isn't hard for "boomers".

 

[enjolras]

It should respect the address you enter, not change it to a random one. Get a good night's sleep, you'll see clearer tomorrow :)

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Just joking with the angry face

I had to rationalize my own laziness, you're doing great work

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Just joking with the angry face

I had to rationalize my own laziness, you're doing great work

thank you for understanding. these practices can be applied to ordering from markets, too. some markets have decided to remove BTC because of the many risks associated with it. WHM operates entirely on your mobile phone now. They recommend using a burner phone, too.

 

[rikamonie]

If you bought BTC already, don't use Morphtoken or the likes to convert & send to the target address in one go. This is not optimal.

I advise to download the Cake mobile wallet, whether on iOS or Android

Cake Wallet

Securely store, send and exchange your crypto with ease.

cakewallet.com

if you ever have troubles at handling the app, they offer great support through live chat or email

Strongly advised to supplement it with a VPN... you could contact MullvadVPN.net and request them a trial at their email... they usually grant a demo for 2, sometimes 3 days, which is enough time to do your task / duties...
Then, always connect to Mullvad VPN, before launching the Cake wallet, and don't disconnect before you close Cake. From time to time, eventually change the VPN server you use (like between receiving and sending Monero in/ou of Cake ...or just forget about it)

Once installed, use the exchange tab & select incoming BTC and outcoming XMR, like on my screenshot.

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Input :
- the exact BTC amount you'll send, transaction out (at your origin wallet) / withdrawal fees deducted, basically, what you really plan to receive, net wise. Be precise.
- a return address, which is the one of your departing wallet ahead of Cake
Proceed (save the references when you're asked to, they can serve for research in case a trouble happens like coins getting lost along the way, or if you inputed an inexact amount for instance, which will bother the exchanger, in our case, changenow.io, built-in)

You will be credited XMR. Wait for the wallet to sync, and for your "full balance" to match the "available balance", which comments your funds can be reused. You toggle between both balances by holding finger on the text

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Meanwhile, go to the Receive button in order to create a new sub-address. Give it a random name (we don't care)

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Copy the subaddress' reference, by press holding on it

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From now, wait a couple of hours preferably....

(Relaunch the app if closed), now back to the Wallet tab, then Send button

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From there, paste the subaddress you previously copied.
Enter a XMR amount almost identical, just a few decimals lower than your full balance (to cover transaction fees, otherwise you'll get a rejection). Proceed to Send.

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You've just churned your coins, which further increase the security of your anonymity, a degree more than default.

Wait a couple more hours, verify your wallet is synched & the full/available balances to be identical so you can spend.
Finally, go to the Send tab again, in order to send to your merchant or darknet market's deposit Monero address.

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IF the destination receipient only accepts other coins, use the Exchange tab instead, and choose incoming XMR & outcoming whichever coin you need (BTC, ETH, LTC...)

Input an XMR amount that, once converted into the altcoin's value (it auto-calculates), will match (if you nail it) or exceed the targeted amount to transfer/deposit (if addressing a merchant, send rather more than not enough, or you'll be asked to top up)

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i need help can you please tell me for exchanging XMR to BTC, i put in the amount of monero then i put in the vendors BTC address, when i click exchange it brings me to the confirmation page, and it says "you will be sending monero to the address above" but the address above is not the vendor address i put in.. its different, this cant be right can it?? i also tried with my BTC wallet address and the same thing happens idk what to do ):

ik u said it shouldnt be that way but it is still doing that today.. so i have no idea

 

[enjolras]

Ok I get why you're confused. On the 3rd screen, do not bother that the address is different than yours (BTC) in the first screen. It's just a reference for the exchanger xmr.to (an external service that receives XMR to an own XMR address to then proceed for the conversion and resend BTC instead) but the process is automated, you don't have to worry about it. Nothing wrong, confim.

As prevention, just make backup screenshots of the 2nd & 3rd screens, in case you'd run into troubles.

If you feel unsafe, you can split the amount in 2, a low test amount, to make sure it is received, then proceed for the rest.

 

[rikamonie]

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Ok I get why you're confused. On the 3rd screen, do not bother that the address is different that yours (BTC) in the first screen. It's just a reference for the exchanger xmr.to (an external service that receives XMR to the XMR address specified) but the process is automated, you don't have to worry about it. Nothing wrong, confim.

As prevention, just make backup screenshots of the 2nd & 3rd screens, in case you'd run into troubles.

If you feel unsafe, you can split the amount in 2, a low test amount, to make sure it is received, then proceed for the rest.

ah ok thank you so much! i understand now :)

 

[rikamonie]

omfg *screams* i swear i am so stupid i am going to cry from my dumbness someone smack me

so you know how i was saying it wouldnt let me pay with monero on C website WELL

if i had opened my EYES i wouldve seen that there is an option when you checkout to change payment method to XMR i just went on there to buy with my BTC and i literally only just saw it now urghh hahah i feel so stupid right now i cant believe i didnt see it

 

[eeyore9128]

I'm trying to acquaint myself with the whole crypto currency thing (my head hurts ngl), and my first step was sign up to coinbase (from a few other posts it seems easier/cheaper than coinmama) but when I get to the page asking for my address it won't let me change the country from UK.
is it only accessible to UK residents?
should i try coinmama instead or can someone suggest another good start point site?

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

I'm trying to acquaint myself with the whole crypto currency thing (my head hurts ngl), and my first step was sign up to coinbase (from a few other posts it seems easier/cheaper than coinmama) but when I get to the page asking for my address it won't let me change the country from UK.
is it only accessible to UK residents?
should i try coinmama instead or can someone suggest another good start point site?

I'm guessing you're using a VPN and the server is located in the UK. You can't use any VPNs/proxies with those sites. You'll have to send a message to the support and explain the situation.

 

[eeyore9128]

I'm guessing you're using a VPN and the server is located in the UK. You can't use any VPNs/proxies with those sites. You'll have to send a message to the support and explain the situation.

i was using vpn when I signed up with my email, but i turned it off when I realised the address mishap was probably due to that. so i reloaded the page but it still wouldn't let me change the country. might be easier to start again with different email?

 

[Belit667]

Ehh the dark web I had a feeling this subject would be brought up. Let me just say this there's the Deep Web and the Dark Web. The deep web is pretty harmless, I've been using it for years and haven't encountered anything "shocking" lots of dead webpages with some cool stuff to look at but most people have the same experience.

The dark web is another matter entirely. If Hell had internet it's the dark web. Let me just say that imagine the most horrific things imaginable and you'll find it and stuff many times worse even horrors you could ever imagine. Start poking around there and you're asking for bad things to happen not only to you but anyone you may be associated with. Because if you go to places and and even show the slightest suspicions that you dont belong somewhere you'll know all about it because chances are your, personal info, location and those of your family and friends will already be aquired before you can even exit the screen you're on. Bottom line stay the hell away from the dark web because if you're careless CTB will be the least of your concerns.

I second that. Few clicks and I ended up on pedophiles' gallery of guys raping 10 yo kids.
Nasty, sticky darkness, And I only saw thumbnails for 15 seconds.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

i was using vpn when I signed up with my email, but i turned it off when I realised the address mishap was probably due to that. so i reloaded the page but it still wouldn't let me change the country. might be easier to start again with different email?

Yea it hardcodes the country during the registration phase based on your IP/server location. I think they would prefer that you resolve the issue with your original email address but it's up to you how to proceed.

 

[eeyore9128]

Yea it hardcodes the country during the registration phase based on your IP/server location. I think they would prefer that you resolve the issue with your original email address but it's up to you how to proceed.

i ended up just using a different email *shrug*. if they contact me via the first email asking me to finish setting up my account I'll figure out how to cancel it, but until then..

 

[eeyore9128]

I just watched some of the videos in the Blockchain / cryptocurrencies / Bitcoin - basic education thread and i feel a tiny bit educated yay.

I've been googling different wallets to find the easiest + most secure one for me - keeping in mind I'm restricted to Android devices atm.
I've seen mentions of Cake (only holds XMR?) on here as well as Samourai (this one seems to still be in development?).
My googling has led me to BRD (breadwallet), which seems not-good for holding large amounts of bitcoin.
and PINT (Android-only + doesn't ask for personal details! that's good).
and Unstoppable looks pretty good too (doesn't ask for personal details, and from my meagre understanding, it being a "non-custodial" wallet means it's not at risk of being shut down by governments trying to ban crypto currency).

Has anyone used these? Would you recommend one over the other?

I recently signed up to Coinbase, but it needed a bunch of personal info so.. i'm leaning towards using PINT or Unstoppable instead or as well (going by HelensNepenthe's graphic further up, it's a good idea to do multiple transfers?)

Someone please jump in with your knowledge.

 

[Living sucks]

I just watched some of the videos in the Blockchain / cryptocurrencies / Bitcoin - basic education thread and i feel a tiny bit educated yay.

I've been googling different wallets to find the easiest + most secure one for me - keeping in mind I'm restricted to Android devices atm.
I've seen mentions of Cake (only holds XMR?) on here as well as Samourai (this one seems to still be in development?).
My googling has led me to BRD (breadwallet), which seems not-good for holding large amounts of bitcoin.
and PINT (Android-only + doesn't ask for personal details! that's good).
and Unstoppable looks pretty good too (doesn't ask for personal details, and from my meagre understanding, it being a "non-custodial" wallet means it's not at risk of being shut down by governments trying to ban crypto currency).

Has anyone used these? Would you recommend one over the other?

I recently signed up to Coinbase, but it needed a bunch of personal info so.. i'm leaning towards using PINT or Unstoppable instead or as well (going by HelensNepenthe's graphic further up, it's a good idea to do multiple transfers?)

Someone please jump in with your knowledge.

These are the 2 best threads
Also from the other thread and check wallet comments by @enjolras

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ies-bitcoin-basic-education.37871/post-702440

 

[Vickyalmighty]

So i decided to buy N from C on EM
but i just don't understand bitcoin even after researching alot

i dont have a computer so i can only access things on iphone, i know i need a bitcoin wallet but which one will provide security and anonymity that i can use on my phone? the one i was recommended isn't accessible via phone

i set up an account and transfer the bitcoin into the chosen wallet and use that to pay?

or is there any better method of paying on dark web so that its anonymous?

You will be scammed at last all the persons selling nembutal on darkweb are scammers. I used jokers stash site to buy credit card and with that I bought Bitcoins and paid. I did not give my address. I gave near by shop address but nothing was shipped. Don't try to rely on darkweb for nembutal it's not safe and if they are legit andship also don't give real address give some nearby address.

 

[Belit667]

I'm sorry if I'm shocking anyone but darkweb is cr*p. I went there once just to look around and after 5 minutes I got into peadophile porn gallery. Sick sh*t.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

You will be scammed at last all the persons selling nembutal on darkweb are scammers. I used jokers stash site to buy credit card and with that I bought Bitcoins and paid. I did not give my address. I gave near by shop address but nothing was shipped. Don't try to rely on darkweb for nembutal it's not safe and if they are legit andship also don't give real address give some nearby address.

This post is misinformative and wrong. Currently there is one confirmed seller of N on the dark web; C. And secondly, you should always use your real name and address with the shipping information.

 

[Vickyalmighty]

This post is misinformative and wrong. Currently there is one confirmed seller of N on the dark web; C. And secondly, you should always use your real name and address with the shipping information.

I am not talking about that particular website mentioned in post. I think I have used empire market I don't remember the link exactly but at last they scammed me. But if we give original name and address wouldn't that be a problem?? I am from India and nembutal is not legal here so at customs it may get caught and police might come to us

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

I am not talking about that particular website mentioned in post. I think I have used empire market I don't remember the link exactly but at last they scammed me. But if we give original name and address wouldn't that be a problem?? I am from India and nembutal is not legal here so at customs it may get caught and police might come to us

I don't know what website you're talking about. You _think_ you have used EM? It has an escrow system so it's very hard to get scammed there. Dark.fail contains all the up to date and legit onion links to the marketplaces. It's always a risk when you're ordering something illegal. But you can encrypt your address using PGP. It's very hard for the authorities to be able to prove that you're the person who ordered it (you can just deny of ever ordering anything). Providing a fake address creates more problems and the package may not arrive just because of that.