Help bitcoin / buying on dark web

[enjolras]

@Aliali1992 could you maybe detail how your own experience turned out following your education through PM ? It will serve other people ...plus you had promised to share your practical adventure of turning as a ghost spy ;)

EM is empire market on dark web where C sells (:

no worries i think i figured how to buy bitcoin now on coinmama, its just sending that to my bitcoin wallet and then converting that into monero from my bitcoin wallet using morphtoken that i dont understand sounds very confusing,, but apparently that makes it more anonymous

It's pointless & inefficient to acquire Bitcoin in the first place. There are many ways to acquire Monero directly.

* Regulated exchanges (requires verification for fiat deposits, not BTC) :
- Kraken (there are more but this is the best). XMR (Monero) can be traded directly against EUR/USD/BTC. Free deposit by wire transfer. Fees will be lower than 0.5%
- Binance or Poloniex, deposit by credit/debit card for 3.5% fees, then less than 0.5% for trading and withdrawal fees. However, the acquisition will be indirect, you'll first purchase BTC with the card, then trade the BTC for XMR

* Depending on where you live, you could try instant exchangers, for acquisition by credit/debit card (verification also mandatory) at sites like anycoindirect.eu, bitnovo.com, changelly.com . Fees will vary, from 3-4% to 11%

More stealth,

* Direct peer-to-peer transactions : with the Tor browser, load the URL dark.fail & retrieve the .onion URL of LocalMonero. Register anonymously (disposable mail), then search for a payment method (cash in person, cash by mail, bank wire transfer) and a seller in your country or near (region). Just choose a vendor with a high reputation (positive feedback) and an old aged account, with a long time history, not new. Despite the scare of the irreversible payment means, it's generally safe & ultimately there's an escrow arbitrating disputes, in theory. Fees will be about 10%

* Acquiring coupons (codes of paper) at local stores, with cash. These hold a monetary value to redeem at any time, within 3 months, to withdraw equivalent coins (different choices) to a personal wallet
Such a service in Spain/Portugal/France/Italy >> bitnovo.com

* Inderectly, by selling personal goods & items (eBay style), on a marketplaces like Purse.io or OpenBazaar. You'll receive BTC, to then convert for XMR using either sites like Changenow.io or Morphtoken or betterm the Cake mobile wallet which has these conversion services integrated

* Some cryptocurrency ATMs directly sell Monero, although it's very rare
Look for them at coinatmradar.com
Bring with you your phone with a mobile Monero wallet installed, in order to cash in & verify the transaction before leaving (same for Monero traded with a local person at a public place with LocalMonero, actually)

* Another popular private software known as a decentralized exchange is Bisq, to install on computer. It's not straight forward to setup, but then you can get XMR against different payment means, including SEPA transfers. It prevents to identify at a centralised exchange (Kraken)

=======

As much as you can, use (Tails +) the Tor browser or VPN for any service you use.

Once you gathered XMR, please follow these steps which are not accessory but really make a difference for anonymisatiom.
Do not send Monero directly to the merchant/service... use an intermediate wallet in between. It can be the official Monero GUI wallet (at the official Monero website) or on iOS the Cake wallet, or on Android the Monerujo wallet. It helps to break some basic correlation link ...in some cases (not mentioning exceptions or else we're not done)
Send the XMR there...
Then create 1 or 2 sub addresses at the middle wallet. Wait a little time (hours or a day), and send XMR to yourself... that's right, to one or more of the subaddress you created. Even better, split the total amount into more than 1 piece (complete or incomplete) and send the coins to yourself. This operation is called churning and helps to dilute the origin of the coins in terms of probability, which is the weakest link of obfuscation, aside hiding IP address (taken care by running your wallets after connecting to a VPN server... whose VPN servers you can alternate between receiving and sending away XMR in & out of the intermediate wallet).
To keep the churning simple and not effort / time consuming (plus risking manipulation errors, you never know), you can send to yourself the full amount of your balance to only 1 sub-address just once... it's still much better than not to churn.
Once churning is done, wait again a little time, then pay. Monerujo & Cake have the service xmr.to built-in which allows to converts to Bitcoin if that's the only coin the merchant accepts.

 

[rikamonie]

@Aliali1992 could you maybe detail how your own experience turned out following your education through PM ? It will serve other people ...plus you had promised to share your practical adventure of turning as a ghost spy ;)



It's pointless & inefficient to acquire Bitcoin in the first place. There are many ways to acquire Monero directly.

* Regulated exchanges (requires verification for fiat deposits, not BTC) :
- Kraken (there are more but this is the best). XMR (Monero) can be traded directly against EUR/USD/BTC. Free deposit by wire transfer. Fees will be lower than 0.5%
- Binance or Poloniex, deposit by credit/debit card for 3.5% fees, then less than 0.5% for trading and withdrawal fees. However, the acquisition will be indirect, you'll first purchase BTC with the card, then trade the BTC for XMR

* Depending on where you live, you could try instant exchangers, for acquisition by credit/debit card (verification also mandatory) at sites like anycoindirect.eu, bitnovo.com, changelly.com . Fees will vary, from 3-4% to 11%

More stealth,

* Direct peer-to-peer transactions : with the Tor browser, load the URL dark.fail & retrieve the .onion URL of LocalMonero. Register anonymously (disposable mail), then search for a payment method (cash in person, cash by mail, bank wire transfer) and a seller in your country or near (region). Just choose a vendor with a high reputation (positive feedback) and an old aged account, with a long time history, not new. Despite the scare of the irreversible payment means, it's generally safe & ultimately there's an escrow arbitrating disputes, in theory. Fees will be about 10%

* Inderectly, by selling personal goods & items (eBay style), on a marketplaces like Purse.io or OpenBazaar. You'll receive BTC, to then convert for XMR using either sites like Changenow.io or Morphtoken or betterm the Cake mobile wallet which has these conversion services integrated

* Some cryptocurrency ATMs directly sell Monero, although it's very rare
Look for them at coinatmradar.com
Bring with you your phone with a mobile Monero wallet installed, in order to cash in & verify the transaction before leaving (same for Monero traded with a local person at a public place with LocalMonero, actually)

* Another popular private software known as a decentralized exchange is Bisq, to install on computer. It's not straight forward to setup, but then you can get XMR against different payment means, including SEPA transfers. It prevents to identify at a centralised exchange (Kraken)

=======

As much as you can, use (Tails +) the Tor browser or VPN for any service you use.

Once you gathered XMR, please follow these steps which are not accessory but really make a difference for anonymisatiom.
Do not send Monero directly to the merchant/service... use an intermediate wallet in between. It can be the official Monero GUI wallet (at the official Monero website) or on iOS the Cake wallet, or on Android the Monerujo wallet. It helps to break some basic correlation link ...in some cases (not mentioning exceptions or else we're not done)
Send the XMR there...
Then create 1 or 2 sub addresses at the middle wallet. Wait a little time (hours or a day), and send XMR to yourself... that's right, to one or more of the subaddress you created. Even better, split the total amount into more than 1 piece (complete or incomplete) and send the coins to yourself. This operation is called churning and helps to dilute the origin of the coins in terms of probability, which is the weakest link of obfuscation, aside hiding IP address (taken care by running your wallets after connecting to a VPN server... whose VPN servers you can alternate between receiving and sending away XMR in & out of the intermediate wallet).
To keep the churning simple and not effort / time consuming (plus risking manipulation errors, you never know), you can send to yourself the full amount of your balance to only 1 sub-address just once... it's still much better than not to churn.
Once churning is done, wait again a little time, then pay. Monerujo & Cake have the service xmr.to built-in which allows to converts to Bitcoin if that's the only coin the merchant accepts.

so i shouldnt buy BTC? should just buy monero to begin with?
ah im sorry i just don't understand at all it hurts my brain im so awful at technical stuff and i only have my phone

my plan was to buy Btc on coinmama, put that in a wallet, send the btc to morphtoken to make it into monero and then put monero into a wallet, then buy using monero,, its ok or not? :')

 

[enjolras]

If you bought BTC already, don't use Morphtoken or the likes to convert & send to the target address in one go. This is not optimal.

I advise to download the Cake mobile wallet, whether on iOS or Android

Cake Wallet

Securely store, send and exchange your crypto with ease.

cakewallet.com

if you ever have troubles at handling the app, they offer great support through live chat or email

Strongly advised to supplement it with a VPN... you could contact MullvadVPN.net and request them a trial at their email... they usually grant a demo for 2, sometimes 3 days, which is enough time to do your task / duties...
Then, always connect to Mullvad VPN, before launching the Cake wallet, and don't disconnect before you close Cake. From time to time, eventually change the VPN server you use (like between receiving and sending Monero in/ou of Cake ...or just forget about it)

Once installed, use the exchange tab & select incoming BTC and outcoming XMR, like on my screenshot.



Input :
- the exact BTC amount you'll send, transaction out (at your origin wallet) / withdrawal fees deducted, basically, what you really plan to receive, net wise. Be precise.
- a return address, which is the one of your departing wallet ahead of Cake
Proceed (save the references when you're asked to, they can serve for research in case a trouble happens like coins getting lost along the way, or if you inputed an inexact amount for instance, which will bother the exchanger, in our case, changenow.io, built-in)

You will be credited XMR. Wait for the wallet to sync, and for your "full balance" to match the "available balance", which comments your funds can be reused. You toggle between both balances by holding finger on the text






Meanwhile, go to the Receive button in order to create a new sub-address. Give it a random name (we don't care)




Copy the subaddress' reference, by press holding on it



From now, wait a couple of hours preferably....

(Relaunch the app if closed), now back to the Wallet tab, then Send button



From there, paste the subaddress you previously copied.
Enter a XMR amount almost identical, just a few decimals lower than your full balance (to cover transaction fees, otherwise you'll get a rejection). Proceed to Send.



You've just churned your coins, which further increase the security of your anonymity, a degree more than default.

Wait a couple more hours, verify your wallet is synched & the full/available balances to be identical so you can spend.
Finally, go to the Send tab again, in order to send to your merchant or darknet market's deposit Monero address.



IF the destination receipient only accepts other coins, use the Exchange tab instead, and choose incoming XMR & outcoming whichever coin you need (BTC, ETH, LTC...)

Input an XMR amount that, once converted into the altcoin's value (it auto-calculates), will match (if you nail it) or exceed the targeted amount to transfer/deposit (if addressing a merchant, send rather more than not enough, or you'll be asked to top up)

 

[Aliali1992]

@Aliali1992 could you maybe detail how your own experience turned out following your education through PM ? It will serve other people ...plus you had promised to share your practical adventure of turning as a ghost spy ;)



It's pointless & inefficient to acquire Bitcoin in the first place. There are many ways to acquire Monero directly.

* Regulated exchanges (requires verification for fiat deposits, not BTC) :
- Kraken (there are more but this is the best). XMR (Monero) can be traded directly against EUR/USD/BTC. Free deposit by wire transfer. Fees will be lower than 0.5%
- Binance or Poloniex, deposit by credit/debit card for 3.5% fees, then less than 0.5% for trading and withdrawal fees. However, the acquisition will be indirect, you'll first purchase BTC with the card, then trade the BTC for XMR

* Depending on where you live, you could try instant exchangers, for acquisition by credit/debit card (verification also mandatory) at sites like anycoindirect.eu, bitnovo.com, changelly.com . Fees will vary, from 3-4% to 11%

More stealth,

* Direct peer-to-peer transactions : with the Tor browser, load the URL dark.fail & retrieve the .onion URL of LocalMonero. Register anonymously (disposable mail), then search for a payment method (cash in person, cash by mail, bank wire transfer) and a seller in your country or near (region). Just choose a vendor with a high reputation (positive feedback) and an old aged account, with a long time history, not new. Despite the scare of the irreversible payment means, it's generally safe & ultimately there's an escrow arbitrating disputes, in theory. Fees will be about 10%

* Inderectly, by selling personal goods & items (eBay style), on a marketplaces like Purse.io or OpenBazaar. You'll receive BTC, to then convert for XMR using either sites like Changenow.io or Morphtoken or betterm the Cake mobile wallet which has these conversion services integrated

* Some cryptocurrency ATMs directly sell Monero, although it's very rare
Look for them at coinatmradar.com
Bring with you your phone with a mobile Monero wallet installed, in order to cash in & verify the transaction before leaving (same for Monero traded with a local person at a public place with LocalMonero, actually)

* Another popular private software known as a decentralized exchange is Bisq, to install on computer. It's not straight forward to setup, but then you can get XMR against different payment means, including SEPA transfers. It prevents to identify at a centralised exchange (Kraken)

=======

As much as you can, use (Tails +) the Tor browser or VPN for any service you use.

Once you gathered XMR, please follow these steps which are not accessory but really make a difference for anonymisatiom.
Do not send Monero directly to the merchant/service... use an intermediate wallet in between. It can be the official Monero GUI wallet (at the official Monero website) or on iOS the Cake wallet, or on Android the Monerujo wallet. It helps to break some basic correlation link ...in some cases (not mentioning exceptions or else we're not done)
Send the XMR there...
Then create 1 or 2 sub addresses at the middle wallet. Wait a little time (hours or a day), and send XMR to yourself... that's right, to one or more of the subaddress you created. Even better, split the total amount into more than 1 piece (complete or incomplete) and send the coins to yourself. This operation is called churning and helps to dilute the origin of the coins in terms of probability, which is the weakest link of obfuscation, aside hiding IP address (taken care by running your wallets after connecting to a VPN server... whose VPN servers you can alternate between receiving and sending away XMR in & out of the intermediate wallet).
To keep the churning simple and not effort / time consuming (plus risking manipulation errors, you never know), you can send to yourself the full amount of your balance to only 1 sub-address just once... it's still much better than not to churn.
Once churning is done, wait again a little time, then pay. Monerujo & Cake have the service xmr.to built-in which allows to converts to Bitcoin if that's the only coin the merchant accepts.

Hey! I stopped after activating mulvad and the last we spoke due to a strong depressive episode that sucked all my energy. I will resume soon and i will tell you about the progress. Yes at the end i will share my experience step by step hopefully it will go smoothly.

 

[rikamonie]

HOLD ON, I messed up.... not done



If you bought BTC already, don't use Morphtoken or the likes to convert & send to the target address in one go. This is not optimal.

I advise to download the Cake mobile wallet whether on iOS or Android

Cake Wallet

Securely store, send and exchange your crypto with ease.

cakewallet.com

if you ever have troubles at handling the app, they offer great support through live chat or email

Once installed, use the exchange tab & select incoming BTC and outcoming XMR, like on my screenshot.
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Input :
- the exact BTC amount you'll send, transaction out (at your origin wallet) / withdrawal fees deducted, basically, what you really plan to receive, net wise. Be precise.
- a return address, which is the one of your departing wallet ahead of Cake
Proceed (save the references when you're asked to, they can serve for research in case a trouble happens like coins getting lost along the way, or if you inputed an inexact amount for instance, which will bother the exchanger, in our case, changenow.io, built-in)

You will be credited XMR. Wait for the wallet to sync, and for your "full balance" to match the "available balance", which comments your funds can be reused. You toggle between both balances by holding finger on the text

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Meanwhile go to the Receive button in order to create a new sub-address. Give it a random name (we don't care)

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Copy the subaddress' reference, by holding press on it

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From now, wait a couple of hours preferably....

Relaunch the app if closed, now back to the Wallet tab, then Send button

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From there, paste the subaddress you previously copied.
Enter a XMR amount almost identical, just a few decimals lower than your full balance (to cover transaction fees, otherwise you'll get a rejection). Proceed to Send.
You've just churned your coins.

Wait a couple more hours, verify your wallet is synched & the full/available balances to be identical so you can spend.

Finally, go to the Send tab again to send to your merchant or darknet market deposit Monero address.

IF the merchant accepts other coins only, use the Exchange tab instead, and choose incoming XMR & outcoming whichever coin you need (BTC, ETH, LTC...)

Input an XMR amount that, converted into the altcoin's value, will match (if you nail it) or exceed the targeted amount to deposit (if addressing a merchant, send rather more than not enough, or you'll be asked to top up)

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thank you so much! its alot easier to understand with screenshots, i just downloaded that app

i havnt purchased any bitcoin or monero yet, so should i buy bitcoin and do this method? or is that not necessary and just buy monero first?

 

[enjolras]

@Aliali1992 np, take care of yourself

thank you so much! its alot easier to understand with screenshots, i just downloaded that app

i havnt purchased any bitcoin or monero yet, so should i buy bitcoin and do this method? or is that not necessary and just buy monero first?

It's better to buy Monero directly (even more so with cash/direct bank transfer, instead of online sites keeping records of ID & activity), cause when sending from the initial wallet/site/service to Cake, no segment of blockchain will be transparent (cause no Bitcoin) but obfuscated and you won't leave a footprint with an exchanger like Morphtoken which should not be trusted to protect you ultimately, since they, at times, comply with authorities (I was friend with a staff member in relation with the Morphtoken management)

What you should ask yourself, is if you can bypass to use a regulated site with identification/verification (exchanges), and go with stuff like Bitnovo, LocalMonero (+ Tor, unidentifying info - meet someone on the street, or send cash by mail), Bisq (paying with SEPA transfer with your bank), Purse (+ Tor, unidentifying info - selling goods), or a verification less ATM.
It complicates the process but for (+/- near) perfect stealth, that would be how it's done.
...If admittedly if you feel overwhelmed, just use an exchange like Kraken, you'll do very fine if you don't mess up the rest of the steps, and you'll achieve much more serenity than those who use Bitcoin in foolish ways.

 

[rikamonie]

@Aliali1992 np, take care of yourself



It's better to buy Monero directly, cause when sending from the initial wallet/site/service to Cake, no segment of blockchain will be transparent (cause no Bitcoin) but obfuscated and you won't leave a footprint with an exchanger like Morphtoken which should not be trusted to protect you ultimately, since they, at times, comply with authorities (I was friend with a staff member in relation with the Morphtoken management)

What you should ask yourself, is if you can bypass to use a regulated site with identification/verification (exchanges), and go with stuff like LocalMonero (+ Tor, unidentifying info - meet someone on the street, on send cash by mail), Bisq (paying with SEPA transfer with your bank), Purse (+ Tor, unidentifying info - selling good), or a verification less ATM.
It complicates the process but for near perfect stealth, that would be how it's done.
...If admittedly if you feel overwhelmed, just use an exchange like Kraken, you'll be very fine if you don't mess up the rest of the steps, and you'll achieve much more serenity than those who use Bitcoin in foolish ways.

ok thank you again for taking time to explain all of this i really appreciate it, its helped me alot

 

[enjolras]

You're welcome, spread the word !

PS : if you buy BTC, do all the intermediary steps of bridging it with Monero through Cake ...and it will be okay nonetheless, very closer to satisfactory than without.
PPS : if you deposit directly XMR to Cake, don't use the Exchange tab but the Wallet/Receive button (contrary to my steps, since you inquired about depositing BTC initially, that's what I addressed ...the rest of the steps don't change)

 

[rikamonie]

this crap is stressing me ouuuttt i did everything then went to C site it has Monero on there so i deposit all of my monero into the website and then go to pay and it says u need bitcoin so i have to bloody take it all back out and put it all back in as bitcoin. *screams* i swear im gonna end up losing all my money before i even pay

 

[Living sucks]

this crap is stressing me ouuuttt i did everything then went to C site it has Monero on there so i deposit all of my monero into the website and then go to pay and it says u need bitcoin so i have to bloody take it all back out and put it all back in as bitcoin. *screams* i swear im gonna end up losing all my money before i even pay

Did C say he accepts monero before you attempted all this?

 

[enjolras]

C has blocked XMR payments at EM, therefore you indeed need to withdraw your XMR and deposit again BTC through a conversion

if you want to pay him with XMR, only the darknet market WHM has it enabled, but it's way more complicated to handle than EM due to the need to use PGP encryption mandatorily

 

[rikamonie]

Did C say he accepts monero before you attempted all this?

i assumed he accepted it since you can send monero to his actual website.. why would he allow that if you cannot pay using it there's absolutely 0 point

 

[HelensNepenthe]

i assumed he accepted it since you can send monero to his actual website.. why would he allow that if you cannot pay using it there's absolutely 0 point

Or the point that there's allegedly escrow on his site when it's his own actual site... I have commented in the past to not use his site for ordering. I strongly recommend not to. It's your money and you're within control of using it however way you want.

 

[rikamonie]

C has blocked XMR payments at EM, therefore you indeed need to withdraw your XMR and deposit again BTC through a conversion

if you want to pay him with XMR, only the darknet market WHM has it enabled, but it's way more complicated to handle than EM due to the need to use PGP encryption mandatorily

its ok paying with bitcoin i just didnt know he didnt accept monero since you can send your monero directly to his website, i took it all back out and will convert it to bitcoin and try again

 

[HelensNepenthe]

At least going from initially BTC --> Monero --> back to BTC is that you wiped a good trail from who you are. Remember that. It'll be hard for any LE to trace it back to you.

 

[rikamonie]

Or the point that there's allegedly escrow on his site when it's his own actual site... I have commented in the past to not use his site for ordering. I strongly recommend not to. It's your money and you're within control of using it however way you want.

i know, i did not want to use his site at all, but i have no other way of ordering WHM doesnt work for me and im not bothered about losing my money if it doesnt arrive

 

[enjolras]

EM is not his site. You're using EM, which is an independent marketplace. You'll be covered by escrow

 

[rikamonie]

EM is not his site. You're using EM, which is an independent marketplace. You'll be covered by escrow

i didnt mention here i think but it seems people are being told they have to order from his site or WHM because C has alot of money on escrow on EM that hes worried about, i got alot of replies saying he doesnt sell on EM anymore so i didnt want to waste my time with it and decided i will just buy from his actual site

peoples orders have been cancelled on em bc of it

 

[enjolras]

Then I'm not following you. He has a XMR deposit address at his own site ? Or you deposited XMR into a BTC address ?

 

[rikamonie]

Then I'm not following you. He has a XMR deposit address at his own site ? Or you deposited XMR into a BTC address ?

on his website he has an address you can send XMR so i did and went to pay and it only come up with BTC and wouldnt accept my monero

 

[overandout]

on his website he has an address you can send XMR so i did and went to pay and it only come up with BTC and wouldnt accept my monero

Can I ask where you brought your Bitcoin from? And did you send it to another wallet and which one before buying directly from C? From uk too and new to it all

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Can I ask where you brought your Bitcoin from? And did you send it to another wallet and which one before buying directly from C? From uk too and new to it all

If you buy from an exchange, it's never recommended at all to go from exchange to the vendor's wallet. Always send from exchange --> electrum (or another wallet) --> electrum on Tails --> then to EM or a vendor's BTC address.

You should do this within a couple hours of each other. It gets very obvious you're moving money at a rapid pace. These wallets in between should never be used again. You want to eliminate how much of a trail you have.

 

[rikamonie]

Can I ask where you brought your Bitcoin from? And did you send it to another wallet and which one before buying directly from C? From uk too and new to it all

i got mine on coinmama, i tried to buy monero from localmonero which is the better option but it needed a card reader and i didnt have one so i had to use coinmama

then i sent my bitcoin to a wallet, then i sent bitcoin to cake wallet to exchange to monero

 

[enjolras]

Ok that's new

on his website he has an address you can send XMR so i did and went to pay and it only come up with BTC and wouldnt accept my monero

why would he enable a XMR address if then he refuses it, have you asked ? Could you withdraw autonomously or did you have to request a manual processing with his help ?

 

[Living sucks]

My mind is exploding just reading this... actually doing it would send me off the deep end. All of your brains are so sharp..

 

[a.n.kirillov]

1. Make account on bitpanda or coinbase.
2. Buy BTC there through bank transfer
3. Go to another site and make a "wallet" or use a software wallet for your smartphone or PC (mycelium for example).
4. Transfer the bitcoins from your coinbase or bitpanda account to this wallet.
5. Pay on EM (or WHM) with this wallet (aka transfer the BTC to the market and immediately buy).

Alternatively to 1 &2, buy bitcoins anonymously at an ATM machine for BTC (you will need to have a wallet (step 3) beforehand. This way, you will not have to identify yourself buying them.

 

[enjolras]

i got mine on coinmama, i tried to buy monero from localmonero which is the better option but it needed a card reader and i didnt have one so i had to use coinmama

then i sent my bitcoin to a wallet, then i sent bitcoin to cake wallet to exchange to monero

should have used Kraken

I wonder which payment method you filtered at LocalMonero to be asked a card reader

 

[HelensNepenthe]

1. Make account on bitpanda or coinbase.
2. Buy BTC there through bank transfer
3. Go to another site and make a "wallet" or use a software wallet for your smartphone or PC (mycelium for example).
4. Transfer the bitcoins from your coinbase or bitpanda account to this wallet.
5. Pay on EM (or WHM) with this wallet (aka transfer the BTC to the market and immediately buy).

You're just asking to be identified by moving your money from an exchange --> wallet --> to EM. 100% I would not recommend this

Moving BTC through intermediary wallets or exchanging from BTC --> Monero --> BTC are much safer ways. The latter being ideally the best. All exchanges are legally required to ID you. There are very few ways of anonymously buying cryptocurrency.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

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You're just asking to be identified by moving your money from an exchange --> wallet --> to EM. 100% I would not recommend this

Moving BTC through intermediary wallets or exchanging from BTC --> Monero --> BTC are much safer ways. The latter being ideally the best.

Different people have different levels of paranoia or need for safety. This is the low level approach.

The question I asked myself is this: who is going to bother doing all this work to identify a one time drug offender?

 

[rikamonie]

should have used Kraken

I wonder which payment method you filtered at LocalMonero to be asked a card reader

bank transfer, my bank wanted me to use a card reader for security ):