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LastNite

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I feel like slaving away for a check just so I can feel shit but survive every month is boring.

Im 18, I have never gotten a job previously. I tried once but it was way too much requirements for 16/hr so I didnt apply (needed 2 years of experience lol).
Im not suicidal. Im just depressed most of the time. I was suicidal but im no longer thinking about it, but I feel like if that is what is to come then I would be suicidal again. I also have shit social anxiety that prevented me from ever having any friends. I dont know how it would go with job interviews and work.
 
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I think most people would agree working sucks ass, but I'd totally slave away at a shitty job If it meant I could live an average non-mentally ill life. Most people are fortunate to live in that situation and take it for granted.

I think most people (those that aren't depressed) have some hobby or a family that makes working hard for not much money worth it to them.

Every job I've worked has sucked the life out of me for sure. Amplified all my problems, except I could buy things which was never worth the effort.
 
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I think a lot of people use "wage slave: as an excuse.
 
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I think a lot of people use "wage slave: as an excuse.
as an excuse for what though? it's fair to say it that way. Minimum wage is still not minimum to live. I could never imagine working a 9-5 just to get off work then go clock in for a second job so that I could meet the minimum to live.
 
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alwaysalone

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as an excuse for what though? it's fair to say it that way. Minimum wage is still not minimum to live. I could never imagine working a 9-5 just to get off work then go clock in for a second job so that I could meet the minimum to live.
An excuse not to try an excuse not to join society. I'm not saying that's you. I don't know you. I have known many people who seem to use it as excuse.
 
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as an excuse for what though? it's fair to say it that way. Minimum wage is still not minimum to live. I could never imagine working a 9-5 just to get off work then go clock in for a second job so that I could meet the minimum to live.
Right? Speaking of, for reference, here's a post from a guy who worked in the 1980's and 90's when working retail actually sustained people.

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witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
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A full work week should be 32 hours (because it basically already is; a lot of time "on the clock" is actually just wasted and inefficient) for at least the same pay. Minimum wage should actually be livable. Dirty, dangerous, and essential jobs that keep society functioning need to pay way more to justify the sacrifice, assuming they don't already.

There are apparently people who like working. I don't really understand how or why. Not sure if it's because they lack hobbies, their work is their hobby, they lucked out and found a unicorn job, or it got them out of an even worse situation. Whatever the case might be—that ain't me. I've talked at length before about how stoic purpose and fulfillment has never ever been a substitute for happiness. What I'm trying to say is: you can't be happy all the time, but never being happy is equally unendurable no matter how much "purpose" you throw at it. Purpose is just supposed to help you get from one happiness to the next, to bridge the gaps. Yes there will be bad days here and there, tough times, but right now the balance is completely out of wack. This saying is so overused but the juice literally isn't worth the squeeze. I would seriously rather die than work for 50 years.

Bezos does not need another billion. Musk does not need another million. 99% of people suffer needlessly, pointlessly because of the psychopathic greed of like... 10,000 people in the world. It's fucking absurd. Every single one of them can afford to take even a 1% paycut more so that people have their basic needs met first-and-foremost, and to provide work-life balance that would reduce the stress of many people IMMENSELY. Rather than make the tiniest of compromises for better workplaces and wages that would overall lead to higher job satisfaction (which would probably be enough to make most people shut up), they would rather go the nuclear option and grind people into dust, outsource to other countries (modern slavery), or outright replace employees with robots that won't complain.

Why? Because of Affluenza. Literally no other reason. No other justification.

It will never change. It's human nature. Call for a French Revolution 2.0 and the same thing will happen, the cycle will repeat. You'll just replace 10,000 pieces of shit with another 10,000. There is no solution. If you don't hit the lottery, whether that be birth or the money kind, it's quite literally gg. There are no jobs worth working. They all suck ass. They all suck you dry of energy and a will to live, and fill you back up with dread and anxiety and money that you haven't time to spend on anything enjoyable.

Not a whole lot has changed since the feudal age. Sure, your master is forced to pay you in money backed by magic and belief, and any extra money can be spent on stupid consumer bullshit that goes right back into master's pockets. True, you can't be physically hit and abused by your master, but you cannot defend yourself from the feral general public who treat you like dirt because you have a McDonald's uniform on. Yes, you are allowed to live off the plantation now, likely at a property owned by master or one of his rich friends anyway. They still have you by the balls, they pay you the bare minimum so that you can practically never leave, they provide no upward mobility or personal growth, they don't train new employees, any request for a single day off is met with passive aggression and guilt-tripping. People own less and less things with the money master gives them, instead being forced to rent a car from... you guessed it, from somebody's master. Do I really need to continue just stating basic observations about the world we live in? It's absolute utter garbage existence.

In my opinion, I wouldn't call all of this an excuse to not try or join society. I've done tried, and I'm very unimpressed with "society." I see quite plainly how it all works, and experienced first-hand how there is no worthwhile reward. What are you going to do, find purpose in supporting a family that you never get to see? A spouse who has to work, meaning children have such little time with their parents that it's damaging to their development? I digress. Fuck this world. I hate people and the prison they've stupidly built.
 
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Jan 13, 2025
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I think there should be universal basic income or at least better financial support for people, who have medical conditions (including depression and social anxiety) and not trying to blame them into thinking it's their problem, if they don't have a job for example, when clearly it, in most cases, is not
 
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An excuse not to try an excuse not to join society. I'm not saying that's you. I don't know you. I have known many people who seem to use it as excuse.
Ive tried multiple times to fit in. I just dont. I havent tried to get a job but I am planning on it soon right after I get a license which Im already learning to drive for. I hope all goes well, but I dont see it working because it didnt work the first time.
 
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Nov 6, 2025
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i will never stop hating the older generations for robbing me of the American dream. they coasted along the easy street, riding off the post war economic boom and then locked the door behind them and burnt it
 
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Apr 19, 2026
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An excuse not to try an excuse not to join society. I'm not saying that's you. I don't know you. I have known many people who seem to use it as excuse.
Why should anybody when society as of current doesn't want you to join? Very few jobs are out there; higher education is way too expensive; our environment is actively killing us; corporations can fire you for anything; once you get sick from said environment and the stress of having a job that barely even pays for rent, you're fired; healthcare is too expensive, but not like many could afford it anyway so fuck us ig; now you have to worry about applying to a 1000 jobs just for one recruiter to respond (it's a rejection letter); if you don't have anybody that will let you move in, you're homeless, so just die because homeless is criminalized; try going on a walk to relieve stress but you just get bombarded by noise pollution, particulate matter, and you're walking a foot away from a car going 80 MPH an hour because there's no goddamn sidewalk; if you don't have a car, just fuck you, society doesn't care, so be born with a car; rent for the rest of your life because houses are way too expensive; be expected to be chipper and happy for everybody or else they might shoot/knife you because everybody's so goddamn angry and resentful nowadays; get lied to and butt-fucked by a government that even the founding fathers of the US would say is supposed to be working FOR THE PEOPLE, not the other way around; have to deal with the disadvantages in employment, political/socioeconomic representation, and bureaucracy of being any sort of marginalized community. Even if you do join society, one double whammy of bad luck like a fucking tornado, tsunami, or earthquake exacerbated by climate change then being late on one payment can have your ass on the street where people assume that you were too lazy and drug-addicted to be a functioning member of society. Then you'll have no one to fall back on because your sense of community has been decimated by no third spaces and highways.

Society (at least in the US, but I've found that some of these problems are everywhere) doesn't want anyone who isn't rich and/or white to join it. You're just a criminal to surveil, an endless customer to be to, and a body to be consumed whole. Who would know that and willingly chose to just because of people who think stupid shit like this? Like, I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and say, hmm maybe you're in a spot of privilege and you just don't understand, but man, is it hard to. People have been trying so much just to be beaten down by their fucking environment, family, government, job market, the color of their skin, what's between their pants, their tax bracket, the country they were born in, being gay or trans, lack of education, etc. They STILL FUCKING TRY AFTER ALL OF THIS! Most everybody hasn't stopped trying to make it in society; they've simply reevaluated the hamster wheel/rat race and said, "I figure something else out before this kills me."​
 
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