Why the fixation on this forum with SN and other complicated methods?

[k75]

@GoodPersonEffed
Some scepticism can be healthy, but not everyone has ulterior motives. If incorrect, how awful is that going to make an already hurting person feel?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Some scepticism can be healthy, but not everyone has ulterior motives. If incorrect, how awful is that going to make an already hurting person feel?

I don't own their feelings. That's in their yard. Protecting myself from manipulation is in my yard.

Respectfully, the way you're viewing it is how children are groomed by abusers. It's a programmed guilt message to encourage self-doubt and staying quiet. I don't respond to those messages anymore, and I'm safer for it.

If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but so far I see only evidence to the contrary.

 

[k75]

You do you. But maybe there's a kinder approach?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

You do you. But maybe there's a kinder approach?

I'm satisfied with my approach in this instance. I can see that you're not. That's in your yard, it doesn't grow in mine.

 

[HopeDiesLast]

I don't own their feelings. That's in their yard. Protecting myself from manipulation is in my yard.

Respectfully, the way you're viewing it is how children are groomed by abusers. It's a programmed guilt message to encourage self-doubt and staying quiet. I don't respond to those messages anymore, and I'm safer for it.

If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but so far I see only evidence to the contrary.

Is it possible for you to protect yourself from manipulation without crapping all over everyone else's "yard"?

Maybe just ignore the posts/threads that you personally feel are manipulative? Not every thread is about you and your feelings and your "yard". YOU are the one trying to manipulate everyone into distrusting the OP. Give it a damn rest.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Is it possible for you to protect yourself from manipulation without crapping all over everyone else's "yard"?

Maybe just ignore the posts/threads that you personally feel are manipulative? Not every thread is about you and your feelings and your "yard". YOU are the one trying to manipulate everyone into distrusting the OP. Give it a damn rest.

Not the first thread where you've made it clear you disagree with my stance and that my way is not to your liking. Maybe ignore me and my posts?

 

[HopeDiesLast]

Not the first thread where you've made it clear you disagree with my stance and that my way is not to your liking. Maybe ignore me and my posts?

Yes, I could simply put you on "ignore", but that won't stop you from derailing threads and creating distrust and conflict among members. To use an analogy you can understand: I wouldn't have to look at the turds that you drop all over our community yard...but I'd still have to smell them.

 

[one4all]

I wouldn't have to look at the turds that you drop all over our community yard...but I'd still have to smell them.

Very interesting analogy. I will keep that for future use IRL LOL

 

[Worthless loser]

@GoodPersonEffed
Some scepticism can be healthy, but not everyone has ulterior motives. If incorrect, how awful is that going to make an already hurting person feel?

This is what I thought, regarding skepticism. I figured maybe the guy was genuine and his and other responses made me realize that I may have started a conflict without meaning to. In retrospect, he was looking for an argument and I took the bait.

One thing I realized after I wrote the post is that suicide by gunshot appeals to me because it's aggressive and violent. Gunshot sends a message that there was anger, bitterness, and rage, and it's symbolically directing all of that outwards, whereas a more peaceful death where one just slips into unconsciousness and then death seems like "letting people off the hook." Reading the responses illuminated this for me, and how broken I am.

 

[k75]

We're all broken in some way. We don't need to break eachother more

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

Gun was my original option last month til I found ss. I was going to screw it up based on the guide. Gun is now my 3rd option. SN and partial are my top choices and I have everything to do any of the 3. I've put a gun to my head a couple of times and once in my mouth and couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger even though it would be over in a second. SN for me is psychologically easier.