It's pretty good method. You can't fuck it up. You can rub it inside your gums after that you pass out and breathing depression kicks in. What you want more?
So it sounds like the answer to my question --why isn't fentanyl popular?-- breaks down into three parts:
1) It's very difficult to be certain of the product. Theoretically you can find medical patches and OD transdermally, but the most common source is via the black market/dark web where purity/veracity of product is highly suspect.
2) The danger of getting bad product does not justify risks involved in obtaining it. Further, most of us here have very limited experience with the black market/dark web, so are put off by learning the process of acquisition by the risk of not getting something worth using.
3) It is very, very illegal, and where being caught with N might get you a slap on the wrist and some time in the psych ward, getting caught with fentanyl will land you in prison.
In short, the risks do not warrant the potential reward.
1) It's very difficult to be certain of the product. Theoretically you can find medical patches and OD transdermally, but the most common source is via the black market/dark web where purity/veracity of product is highly suspect.
2) The danger of getting bad product does not justify risks involved in obtaining it. Further, most of us here have very limited experience with the black market/dark web, so are put off by learning the process of acquisition by the risk of not getting something worth using.
3) It is very, very illegal, and where being caught with N might get you a slap on the wrist and some time in the psych ward, getting caught with fentanyl will land you in prison.
In short, the risks do not warrant the potential reward.
weedoge
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Actually fent and N are both schedule II in the USA but it's different in some other countries for sure (in the UK, nembutal is only class B rather than fent which is class A
I'd say your reason 2 is the most accurate, the darknet is daunting and even if you get on there, getting your real funds into the darknet safely seems challenging. Also usually requires some form of ID to get the bitcoin etc etc, there are many steps in the process of using the darknet that the confusion of the process outweighs the perceived result. People will convince themselves they're likely to get scammed and prefer to just attempt with a rope or something much simpler. I'd love to write a guide for this kind of thing but fear the kind of territory that puts me in so I tend to pass over that.
Anyway!! I still think that for some people it might be a pretty good method, prep and obtaining is difficult but considering just the method all alone, it's definitely not the worst.
I know there's no way I'm ever going to have any success on the dark web. Even if I knew how to get there, or once there I knew how to find what I wanted, I know I'll get scammed for certain.
I've decided my new ideal is to ctb with F patches. I haven't a clue where to get them, so I expect N2 will be my actual way out, but F sounds a lot better even than N.
I've decided my new ideal is to ctb with F patches. I haven't a clue where to get them, so I expect N2 will be my actual way out, but F sounds a lot better even than N.
My ultimate dream choice is fentanyl patches too. But it's impossible to find fentanyl patches so I will probably do the night-night-method instead.
Fucking loving it
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weedoge
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I feel old, no idea what the night-night method is. Can't you get fent patches on the darknet? I've never really searched but curious now.
If you find F patches on the darknet, PM me? I haven't a clue how to even start looking.
Night-night method is bilateral carotid artery compression. There's a pretty big thread on it somewhere on ss.
NoDream
Student
- Mar 27, 2018
- 132
NightNight means you compress your arteries beside your windpipe with a ratchet and 2 beanbags.
weedoge
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Damn, never realised, honestly seems like valuable information that should just be included whenever ligature strangulation is talked about. Any more comfortable improvement on ligatures should be widely talked about since it's a method many people consider and attempt.
lastonealive
Member
- Nov 17, 2018
- 8
I was a dope/fent addict for 12years.
I tried it as a method twice but was found first time. then didn't get strong enough the second time.
the thing with this is that only users really know how to 'safely' get it. Most people have no clue how to sniff it out 'safely' so to them its no option. For people like me it would just be called a sudden death and nobody would talk much more about it..
so basically, the problem is the only people with real access see it as a normal thing with not much reason to discuss.
everyone else doesn't see it as an option.
I tried it as a method twice but was found first time. then didn't get strong enough the second time.
the thing with this is that only users really know how to 'safely' get it. Most people have no clue how to sniff it out 'safely' so to them its no option. For people like me it would just be called a sudden death and nobody would talk much more about it..
so basically, the problem is the only people with real access see it as a normal thing with not much reason to discuss.
everyone else doesn't see it as an option.
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Chinaski
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- Sep 1, 2018
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In the UK any class B drug which is in *injectable* form is treated in law as a class A, l imagine liquid N falls into that category, therefore making it essentially the same risk as Fentanyl. The legal issue if caught would become one of quantity and purpose though, and the mitigation of "it's for personal use to ctb" would probably hold more water with N than Fentanyl.
weedoge
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I never knew that, I knew the UK drug laws are a bit bendy (like cannabis for the longest time being a class B but penalties still reaching class A levels for some reason, not sure if that's still the case) so it doesn't surprise me. Also of course, N is only lethal in a huge overdose like probably some other class B drugs, I suppose they're not categorised under the assumption that people are going to try and die with them rather than just abuse them.
Chinaski
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Another 'bendy' bit is the fact that if the amount you order is considered to be a very small amount, and can be evidenced that it's strictly for personal use, it's likely to be considered under the sentencing guidelines for 'possession' rather than the way more serious 'importation'. Still not a risk l personally would take, but the golden rule should be to only order the amount you would need for the desired purpose.
I should add that I've no idea how much is a 'small' amount for class As in this context, I've no experience of them.
weedoge
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Ah now that one I definitely knew because if I ever put myself at risk of being found with bud on me I always make sure it's no more than like 1-2g. Even if you have small amounts apparently having them in separate bags is enough reasonable suspicion to take you in for intent to distribute. Law is so weird.
lastonealive
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- Nov 17, 2018
- 8
haha. I'm trying to say the reason that fentanyl doesn't seem like a popular method.
simply put, its very hard to get for someone with no history of drug use.
those of us who can get it; and want to use it as a method. its such a normal occurrence that it hardly seems to warrant a discussion.
I hope that makes more sense? I am awful at getting my thoughts into text.
EndofMyRope
Student
- Oct 17, 2018
- 174
There was a very brief time where I tried heroin a few times and wound up ODing on fentanyl a few months ago... Being inexperienced with heroin, I had no idea what to expect or worry about. Sadly, I wasn't alone when this happened and they called 911. The police and emergency services responded, pumped me with naloxone twice, asked me if I'd done it on purpose (apparently they'd somehow been made aware of my mental health history), took me to the ER and let me go a couple hours later. All in all, the experience wasn't horrific. I was told I had stopped breathing, but I had no idea of it.
I've since gotten most of those people out of my life and am not using heroin anymore. Opiate withdrawal is not something anyone should have to experience.
I've since gotten most of those people out of my life and am not using heroin anymore. Opiate withdrawal is not something anyone should have to experience.
I actually survived a fent OD once. And i still can't think straight, I slurr all my words, and I need some super heavy meds to go to sleep (I also tried to Od on those but it didn't work, never try seroquil.)
Any idea how many fentanyl patches are required to kill yourself?
According to this article you only need 6 patches (of the strongest kind):
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Druggist-used-pain-patches-to-end-his-life-2860267.php
'six high-dosage fentanyl patches on his neck and chest and an open can of beer nearby' 6 100 mg patches. That's an extremely high dose, 0.6 gr AND alcohol. Who knows if he took anything else. If you have no tolerance.It's indeed not safe if you want to live. Try getting those patches, no chance. I think mcg is more common
Kim
Daydreamer
- Sep 18, 2018
- 155
Why don't use an arctic fentanyl stick 1600? One is enough to kill you and it tastes very yummy (^^)
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