Why Isn't Nembutal More Popular Today?

[TheFalseWidow]

I think the answer is access, but I feel like we could petition to the Darknet to get this produced. I don't know how but I'd try to figure it out if we had enough people interested. It seems like a much more peaceful way to die. I found out about it by watching this TedTalk:



It turned out to be the guy that published The Peaceful Pill handbook, and all he talked about was Nembutal: "Dr Nitschke has written extensively in the area of voluntary euthanasia and assisted suicide including two books, Killing Me Softly: Voluntary Euthanasia and the Road to the Peaceful Pill published by Penguin and The Peaceful Pill eHandbook published by Exit International USA."

Anyways, check it out.

 

[SeekingSerenity]

The problem is availability. Back when D was around, it was far more popular, but since then it's become virtually impossible for the average user to source. While it's one of the more peaceful methods, it's lack of accessibility has led to it falling out of popularity in favor of more acquirable methods like SN.

 

[madameviolette]

No access

 

[urgent]

Yes, it's availability. I don't know where to get it. I unfortunately never thought there were books or. sites to tell you how until I got to the point where nothing could be done to stop my degenerative diseases and manage the severe pain. I think it's important to point it out to people who are ill to prepare while you're able. Everyone who doesn't want to end up lingering and suffering should decide and talk to loved ones. Have an advanced directive before its to late. I wouldn't be suffering if I thought about it while I could have gotten helium or drugs that were more available then. I don't know who D or A was? I know the PPh used to give sources. I read an article about a site where there was someone providing N. Was anyone here then that can tell me about it? I'm just curious. I also am trying to find a peaceful way but think it might be impossible because of my health at this point everything is difficult for me. I learned about death with dignity when I was already losing mine. I found an post online from someone saying they worked as a guide for an organization and when it merged they worked for another until doing it on his own. He helped the ones like me, in to much pain and bad health to set up a tank themselves or get N. He said if they asked he brought the equipment, stayed until they were gone and even took it away so no loved ones had to suffer either. I was amazed that there were people who take that risk for strangers but he said it makes him feel better and gives him a purpose. I don't know if their are many still around or how you would find them. Today people are to busy scamming for money or even sick enjoyment. It's sad that people used to really help and care about each other years ago. Humanity has been harder to find. I fear a world without it. I'd love to hear from anyone around here long enough stories about anyone here who was able to find that.I found out to late. I would have liked to bring attention to eol choices. I'd have liked to talk to Kevorkian, Nitschke, Humphrey. Who was A and D? Please Pm me if allowed. Thank you

I think the answer is access, but I feel like we could petition to the Darknet to get this produced. I don't know how but I'd try to figure it out if we had enough people interested. It seems like a much more peaceful way to die. I found out about it by watching this TedTalk:



It turned out to be the guy that published The Peaceful Pill handbook, and all he talked about was Nembutal: "Dr Nitschke has written extensively in the area of voluntary euthanasia and assisted suicide including two books, Killing Me Softly: Voluntary Euthanasia and the Road to the Peaceful Pill published by Penguin and The Peaceful Pill eHandbook published by Exit International USA."

Anyways, check it out.

These videos get me angry that I wasn't aware of this when I could have gotten prepared and wouldn't be suffering excruciating pain now. Whenever I see those who were aware then they all say they are prepared and won't have to suffer like I do. I try to tell people to think about it so you can have a method before you're bedbound and unable to help yourself.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

You already know why.

 

[U. A.]

I feel like we could petition to the Darknet

lol

 

[urgent]

You already know why.

Me? I don't know what you mean. I didn't know anything about the subject other than some people cut, hang, shoot themselves. I never thought about a lot of things I had no reason to. I didn't think you could suffer so much that nothing or no one could help without putting themselves at risk. I guess I believed doctors could help more. I wasn't thinking about the end of life, being in so much pain. Even when I became the care taker and had to watch my loved ones suffer from cancers no one thought about dwd, helping them end it. It was treatment, suffer in hospice and die a horrible painful death. All the love and care can't stop the bedsores, mouth sores, losing dignity with diapers or sponge baths. I was able to have plenty of time to talk to my Dad and Mom when we knew they couldn't get better, chemo making it worse, how embarrassing it was for my Dad the strong protector to be fed and changed. I was taught about God. He never gives you more than you can handle. A good person doesn't suffer. A good person doesn't kill themselves, they will go to hell. I wish someone would have mentioned a peaceful way. Instead of watching them suffer they could have dwd and no one would suffer watching them and feeling useless. I learned to late and on my own. I don't have someone who will quietly help me. I tell others believe what you want but I don't think it's wrong to end suffering. I won't say you're selfish, a criminal, a coward. I would say I understand I support you. Don't worry about anything just know you're loved and missed but no one should make you stay for them and suffer. I want to see everyone have the right to MAiD. To dwd when and how you want. I don't think it's a slippery slope or murder, a way to get rid of disabled or save insurance companies money. I don't care about those who disagree. I'm not telling them to do it. Just don't stop those who need it. If you mean I know the governments reasons ,I don't know what country you're in, Im not asking that .I don't know why people stopped doing what was right for them. Helping each other anyway. They do illegal things that hurt children all the time. They sell drugs, murder for 5$ or a phone Put themselves at risk. The organizations took risks to stop suffering not cause it.It's not easy to get approved.We know it could stop so many people from ending up brain damaged or in jail. I'm not afraid to go to hell.Im there.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Me? I don't know what you mean. I didn't know anything about the subject other than some people cut, hang, shoot themselves. I never thought about a lot of things I had no reason to. I didn't think you could suffer so much that nothing or no one could help without putting themselves at risk. I guess I believed doctors could help more. I wasn't thinking about the end of life, being in so much pain. Even when I became the care taker and had to watch my loved ones suffer from cancers no one thought about dwd, helping them end it. It was treatment, suffer in hospice and die a horrible painful death. All the love and care can't stop the bedsores, mouth sores, losing dignity with diapers or sponge baths. I was able to have plenty of time to talk to my Dad and Mom when we knew they couldn't get better, chemo making it worse, how embarrassing it was for my Dad the strong protector to be fed and changed. I was taught about God. He never gives you more than you can handle. A good person doesn't suffer. A good person doesn't kill themselves, they will go to hell. I wish someone would have mentioned a peaceful way. Instead of watching them suffer they could have dwd and no one would suffer watching them and feeling useless. I learned to late and on my own. I don't have someone who will quietly help me. I tell others believe what you want but I don't think it's wrong to end suffering. I won't say you're selfish, a criminal, a coward. I would say I understand I support you. Don't worry about anything just know you're loved and missed but no one should make you stay for them and suffer. I want to see everyone have the right to MAiD. To dwd when and how you want. I don't think it's a slippery slope or murder, a way to get rid of disabled or save insurance companies money. I don't care about those who disagree. I'm not telling them to do it. Just don't stop those who need it. If you mean I know the governments reasons ,I don't know what country you're in, Im not asking that .I don't know why people stopped doing what was right for them. Helping each other anyway. They do illegal things that hurt children all the time. They sell drugs, murder for 5$ or a phone Put themselves at risk. The organizations took risks to stop suffering not cause it.It's not easy to get approved.We know it could stop so many people from ending up brain damaged or in jail. I'm not afraid to go to hell.Im there.

No, not directed towards you. I'm so sorry to hear . My parents died after needlessly suffering for years, too, years after having lost all dignity. I know how hard that is to watch. I've now found myself in hell on earth for other reasons, so I have to go with what's still legal & available. That's all any of us can do if we can't continue. I hope you either find a way to heal or a way out that's as peaceful as possible .

 

[Avril]

Procuring it is next to impossible

 

[urgent]

I'm sorry you went through it too. We all have or will unless we are willing and able to use MAiD. I hear of many ",good deaths " now. Others learned about it when they could prepare. It's not illegal to VSED. Some shoot themselves or have N,SN, fentanyl, some doctors have told families they have enough morphine, they used to give patients enough drugs to do it or Exit would show you how to use the hood. Many were even tried and found not guilty. It happens all the time. Some have connections. A lot don't look like suicide. I could have done something if I knew earlier. I'm suffering needlessly like so many but others don't illegal or legally. I hope you find relief. I can't physically get better. I will suffer until I die or MAiD becomes available and I suffer through hopefully approval but once I decline mentally I might not make it through and someone can decide its morally wrong to let me go. I don't like to see anyone suffer. I hope the best for you.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I feel like we could petition to the Darknet

Seriously, though, unless one of these underground Chinese labs starts making it, I think it's gone for good.

 

[urgent]

Procuring it is next to impossible

Somehow some get it. If only I had the right to stop my own suffering. I hope it changes. It seems it will for some. I wish you the best.

Seriously, though, unless one of these underground Chinese labs starts making it, I think it's gone for good.

Somehow dwd advocates used to know how to get it.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Somehow dwd advocates used to know how to get it.

I know there was powdered N from China being sold in the past, and then a guy from Mexico was selling it more recently, but he was arrested.