Venting Why is society so anti ctb

[username12345]

Why does society seem ok with allowing so much suffering? Not talking about the obvious suffering caused by war and its consequences, which is horrendous.
I'm more venting about the way society watches people fall through the cracks and then claims help is out there. People can't afford access to quality healthcare, food, transportation, housing. But "they" spend time and money shutting down options for peaceful ctb and instead encourage spending money on therapy and "self care". It's easy to say stay positive and it'll get better when you have money in your pocket and a functional body to find employment.
I wish we could apply for assisted dying for 18+ without a terminal diagnosis. Perhaps a short waiting period with some counseling to help one clarify their reasons? Paperwork that protects the providers from lawsuits by bereaved family? It would be a slippery slope deciding who gets access for sure.
But providing peaceful, accessible ctb options had to be better than the way society forces people to live in declining health and drawn out suffering. It's like society is being built to cause mental illness.

Yeah, it makes sense, generally, to be against suicide, but if you are going to let people suffer it's wrong to not let them die(peacefully). It's kind of like when some sort of large scale tragedy happens and all people have for help is "thoughts and prayers." It's the same mindset and it doesn't help anyone.

 

[sserafim]

To be blunt, that's an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. You're assuming that the world is run entirely by amoral billionaire sociopaths who work together and have no motivation other than profit. There are definitely crazy heartless rich people in the government and economics is a significant factor in policymaking but if you think morality doesn't play into it or that suicide is a total negative for all rich people you're incorrect

Say the council of wealthy elites both A. unilaterally wants to prevent suicide for economic reasons and B. has enough power to do so. Why aren't gun laws stricter? Firearms are the most lethal, commonly available method; most successful suicides involve them. They're also semi-expensive, generally reducing their access to people with a bit of money and thieves.

Why would the most effective method be so readily available? Why are actually economically productive people allowed to CTB just as much if not more than the economically unproductive (disabled, homeless, impoverished, etc)?

There's not a billionaire consensus (except on taxation lol) here- plenty of amoral companies don't care if their products kill people who then can't buy more products. The NRA doesn't care if people who buy guns CTB, preventing future sale of pharmaceuticals to that person. They don't care if dozens of children are killed in school shootings, thus preventing future food sales to those children. They aren't lobbying for drug or food companies. They're lobbying for gun companies. They want the government to make buying guns easier to increase sales.

Realistically the economic incentive is tied into actual government policy as an additional reasoning. you're imagining the system to be more competent and unified than it actually is.

Related to this point, take a look at this absolute joke of an infographic that some freak made.
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Some callous imbeciles actually think that the 'cost of suicide' is something to be concerned about. Can you believe it?

 

[sugarb]

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Doesn't contradict anything I said.

If there is a group of billionaires controlling everything who conspire to prevent suicide because it's so costly, why are extremely common and very lethal methods like hanging, drowning, jumping off buildings / in front of trains, and most notably firearms still so readily available?

And again, I'm not arguing against the existence of any economic motivation whatsoever, I'm arguing against the existence of a unified and effective anti-suicide billionaire cabal.

 

[Lucid.44]

Because they feel guilty of thr fact that they have been incompetent with treaying others properly. They know they do they dont care but please for the love of their feelings dont show them how painful it is
Because they feel guilty of thr fact that they have been incompetent with treaying others properly. They know they do they dont care but please for the love of their feelings dont show them how painful it is

 

[painofzed]

A little late to this one, but the reason is they need us here to be wage slaves to further enrich the elite. I for one will be protesting this by taking my life in a VERY public manor with an end capitalism sign around my body. I'm currently in the planning stages.