Why don't Americans simply shoot themselves?

[xxelefante]

So I noticed that maybe most members of this forum are Americans. And I was wondering - why don't you just plan suicide by shooting yourselves? There are all these elaborate techniques with SN and whatnot, while you can literally just buy guy everywhere and do it super quick, secure and relatively painless. If I were an American I'd choose that in a heartbeat - unfortunately, being from Eur Union putting hands on a gun is really an impossibility and I have to keep exploring other options. But boy would that be wonderful!

It also gets me thinking - if you're American and claim to want to committ suicide but to do that ponder these complicated failure high-risk options while you have the ideal one just there - maybe you don't really want to die?

 

[faust]

Hello, everything is not so easy as it may seem.
N is not too hard to get in Mexico, but people use others methods
SN is very easy to get in some Eastern European countries, but people still use hanging, drowning and jumping
Fentanyl is easy to get in US in some neighborhoods, however not many people use this method.
We use the methods which we find more attractive and acceptable for us, not the easiest to get.
I would not shoot myself even if I had a gun. I would better place some bottles and have some fun.

 

[PickledTink]

It's not so easy to get a gun the legal way in the States. It all depends on the actual state. You have to get a gun permit which can take a while to get where I'm from. If you've been to jail you can't get a permit.

Plus, holy fucking mess. I feel like it's a consideration to the person who finds you.

 

[one4all]

A) It's not that easy to acquire a fire arm in the USA LEGALLY. As has been mentioned why.
B) CTB with a gun is not 100% guaranteed.
C) Have you looked at any case of what a person goes through after failing this method? Try for the head and it didn't work is not a pleasant thought or sight.

EDIT D) You also need to know how to handle a gun before you try the method. Not everyone is familiar with handling a gun. So you need to learn that also.

I don't mean to sound harsh.. just those are my thoughts on the topic

 

[Deathbydemo]

Just because its easily accessible doesn't necessarily make it the best option for all. I do see your point with your question but, to me, that's like asking why everyone in the UK doesn't use SN as their method since, if done correctly, it's relatively quick, painless and doesn't leave your body in TOO much of a gruesome state to be found. Not to mention, delivered and all, costs less than £10. I guess it's all down to personal preference.

I know personally speaking that even if I had a gun and was feeling actively suicidal that's not the option I would go for. For two reasons: one, the person who will most probably discover my body upon death would be my mother and I would never traumatise her to find me like that. Two: SI would be extremely difficult for me to overcome. You pull the trigger, that's it. I don't think I could do it.

 

[Shinbu]

Guns can go wrong, and not appropriate in my situation so guns are not a option.

 

[Lostandfound7]

Hello friend. I live in America, NY in particular, and I'm not quite sure what has led u to believe that getting a gun is so ez n that they r "everywhere." That is so not the case here..U can possibly get an illegal handgun here but would need to know the "right" underground ppl, n thats still very sketchy...

And while my husband is a licensed carrier n does own a few handguns n a shotgun, I would not never even consider using a handgun/rifle as my method of ctb...

 

[RayoSinSol]

Still considering options and trying to save up some money right now. I'm broke. Personally I have difficulty keeping jobs because I'm a mess.

Even when I do have enough to finally decide between options, I don't necessarily see a gun as my personal ideal at the moment, but it certainly is an option.

I'm buying the Peaceful Pill Handbook soon. Hopefully that might give me some insight into ways to acquire a more peaceful way of dying than gun. I've never fired a gun before and I'm not exactly as strong or healthy as I could be so I'm just afraid I'll misfire and end up in a worse place than before.

Efficient and peaceful is my ideal style.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

My dad was in LE and I grew up around guns. I was in the military and trained with guns and other weapons. At one point I owned a gun.

I still would not ctb with a gun unless I had no other option besides jumping, or unless something really horrific were about to happen to me. If I had been in the World Trade Center, I would have faced the fire rather than jump, but would have used a gun rather than face the fire.

@xxelefante, I don't expect you to confirm or deny this, but based on your post, I assume you're male, though a female could conceivably take the same stance. Guys are just more likely to go for more violent methods, and seem in my experience to be less able to empathize with an aversion to the method because it is so practical and quick. There are, however, plenty of males with an aversion to the method, just as there are females who pursue it, both of whom have been represented on this forum.

And yes, I'm a woman. I loved target practice. I was a damn good shot and proud of it. Although I asked several times, my dad never once took me to the range because he was not a good shot and his ego would have been most displeased.

 

[Ardesevent]

Guns are pretty expensive to buy, mostly $200 and up, and difficult to get too unless you have a store nearby. You can buy a gun without a permit in some states, but then you need to do research into kickback and what ammo to use. Ammo's expensive too, it can be about $30 a box.
It would be a good method, I just don't have the money for it.

 

[Genetics]

So I noticed that maybe most members of this forum are Americans. And I was wondering - why don't you just plan suicide by shooting yourselves? There are all these elaborate techniques with SN and whatnot, while you can literally just buy guy everywhere and do it super quick, secure and relatively painless. If I were an American I'd choose that in a heartbeat - unfortunately, being from Eur Union putting hands on a gun is really an impossibility and I have to keep exploring other options. But boy would that be wonderful!

It also gets me thinking - if you're American and claim to want to commit suicide but to do that ponder these complicated failure high-risk options while you have the ideal one just there - maybe you don't really want to die?

Not all Americans can get guns, some aren't comfortable. Women, statistically are much less likely to commit suicide with a firearm. In my opinion I think that those that don't choose that method might be fearful of the pain, of missing the brain stem, of their family members finding them and being forced to clean up their brains, skull and blood afterwards.

Please, not 100% of Americans own guns. I do but not everyone does.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

 

[one4all]

Guns are pretty expensive to buy, mostly $200 and up, and difficult to get too unless you have a store nearby. You can buy a gun without a permit in some states, but then you need to do research into kickback and what ammo to use. Ammo's expensive too, it can be about $30 a box.
It would be a good method, I just don't have the money for it.

Also try getting Ammo now with the Co-Vid pandemic.

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Perfect timing

 

[Genetics]

Also try getting Ammo now with the Co-Vid pandemic.


Perfect timing

That's why you stock up beforehand. We've got plenty of ammo and you only need 1 bullet.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Getting a permit is not a big deal in my experience. Fill out the application, wait three days. Denied for felons, and those who have had an involuntary or in some cases extended psych hospitalization, but hospitalization does not mean permanent denial, just for a number of years. Some firearms can be bought at gun shows without a permit.

However, guns grow on trees in America, so no biggie. Ammo grows from the ground like peanuts.

 

[s1mplem3]

For the same reason why Russians do not OD on alcohol.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

For the same reason why Russians do not OD on alcohol.

That would be alcohol abuse!

 

[ECTatertot]

I wish it were that easy to get a gun in the states, lol. It's very unlikely that I would be able to procure one legally do to my psychiatric history.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

European: Why don't Americans simply shoot themselves?

_____________

Southern American/Texan: Why don't you jest go @#!& yerself? *Spits chaw

New Yorker: You tawkin' to me???

Californian: That was harsh, dude.

Trump: Let's all do it. Let's make America great again! My wife is Eastern European. Great people. I'll let her go first.

 

[one4all]

 

[Genetics]

I wish it were that easy to get a gun in the states, lol. It's very unlikely that I would be able to procure one legally do to my psychiatric history.

Unless a judge has adjudicated you as mentally ill then you can get a gun. I have multiple mental illnesses that I am being treated for currently and I have bought 3 guns and 1 shotgun and 2 assault rifles in my lifetime.

Mental health providers do NOT report to the government data base of those not permit to purchase. It's very easy to buy a gun if you have the money for one. You can buy one on Craigslist without a background check from an individual person, too, if you don't think you can buy retail. There also people walking around at gun shows that want to sell their guns and no background check.

 

[Overnoutofhere]

It's hard to shoot your self, it can fail, many live for a few days half dead but alive enough to be conscious that your loved ones are there and are destroyed by your act.
I have first hand experience, it was traumatic to see this person you love like this. Really messed me up!

 

[Genetics]

So I noticed that maybe most members of this forum are Americans. And I was wondering - why don't you just plan suicide by shooting yourselves? There are all these elaborate techniques with SN and whatnot, while you can literally just buy guy everywhere and do it super quick, secure and relatively painless. If I were an American I'd choose that in a heartbeat - unfortunately, being from Eur Union putting hands on a gun is really an impossibility and I have to keep exploring other options. But boy would that be wonderful!

It also gets me thinking - if you're American and claim to want to committ suicide but to do that ponder these complicated failure high-risk options while you have the ideal one just there - maybe you don't really want to die?

Why don't more Europeans cut their throats with machettes?

Why don't more Europeans cut their throats with machettes?

Well the OP was being a little ridiculous with that ending comment about "maybe you don't really want to die" when OP hasn't a clue, and admits to it, about America and guns.

I just see a lot of machete attacks in Europe and thought that would be good, easily available weapon to use for them.

 

[waterbottleman]

1. Because it can fail to kill you and then you have a mutilated face and a much worse life.

2. It's a gruesome method. I don't like violence so the thought of using a gun disturbs me.

3. Because I'm one of those weird people who wants to look nice and pretty when he dies. When I drink my SN and die I'll be dressed up really nice.

 

[Deathbydemo]

For the same reason why Russians do not OD on alcohol.

Haha perfect response!

 

[Y78]

IM in the opposite direction
i think that hanging is far more hard than gunshot
for me if i had a gun i belive i could ctb.

i have a story about it but its very wierd.

a neighbor had a dog.
it was dying in in pain.
another neghibor ask me if i want his handgun to shoot the dog.
i could easyly take the handgun 9 mm.and shoot myself.
in a split of a sec. i chikend and say no.
the dog die after an hour.
(i wont tell how it was injurd cause its too funny and gross.real story.)

how do i spell neibogohr? lol.

 

[Mr2005]

If it were anywhere else the question would just look like you hate americans

 

[Vault of Memories]

I'm diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, not sure if I can even purchase a gun.
I did try during my first attempt however, but the gun jammed when I had it pressed up against my head and pulled the trigger for some reason. I then pointed it in front of me towards the woods and it went off and the bullet went somewhere in the woods. This scared the hell out of my. I had already sent out my suicide notes so I knew there was no going back and figured someone probably heard the bullet so I downed a bottle of pills in my car (they were a backup plan). I woke up in the ICU, was found by a truck driver apparently and according to the reports if I was found an hour later would've probably been dead.
Guns scare the hell out of me, I think I have PTSD from this (my only) experience with them. The gun didn't even belong to me, it belonged to my dad and it took me weeks of going to places thinking I'd pull the trigger until I finally built up the courage to do so. Somehow he never realized that the gun was missing in those weeks, I was scared that he would the whole time. If don't right it's a quick death, but the buildup to going through with it is incredibly frightening. I also don't want some innocent bystander to stumble upon my body with my head blown off and be traumatized with that image.

I realize the whole gun not going off on me then going off when I pointed it away from me will probably be hard for any of you to believe-like something out of a movie, but unfortunately it is real.

Oh yeah and when I was saved some asshole police officer tried charging me with a hidden firearm. I put it on the floor of my passenger seat when I grabbed the bottle of pills.

Edit: Couldn't think of the phrasing for it, but I guess "concealed weapon" was the charge.

 

[Tiedie]

I want a more peaceful passing, nothing more. I was obsessed with hanging/gun shot. My uncle killed himself with a shot gun in the very house I am typing from. It was brutal.

 

[Y78]

but the gun jammed when I had it pressed up against my head and pulled the trigger for some reason. I then pointed it in front of me towards the woods and it went off and the bullet went somewhere in the woods. . I woke up in the ICU, was found by a truck driver
I realize the whole gun not going off on me then going off when I pointed it away from me will probably be hard for any of you to believe-like something out of a movie, but unfortunately it is real.
Oh yeah and when I was saved some asshole police officer tried charging me with a hidden firearm. I put it on the floor of my passenger seat when I grabbed the bottle of pills.

WOW . amazing story.
the gun explode after the shot ?
what the officer did?