Method why are many of you guys against using trains to CTB?

[squirmedworm]

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm genuinely considering it as a method so I just want to know everything before I commit

 

[StaticCryBabye]

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm genuinely considering it as a method so I just want to know everything before I commit

That's probably because you might traumatized people for life by doing that kind of method

 

[BroodingBleu]

I imagine its mostly because the folks here on SaSu may be extremely supportive in most aspects, but most do not condone acts that will scar or traumatize other individuals, all of us here hurt or suffer for one reason or another, I personally find it unfair to cause someone else to suffer because of my want to leave, but thats just my opinion!

 

[ChildrensITV]

I feel like if you're the kind of person to be brave enough to die by train, you would just do it without much consultation. That is a huge amount of SI to get over. Most train-suiciders probably do it out of desperation. If you are on this forum, you have other suggested methods at your disposal.

Also, don't fuck a train-drivers life up because you hate yours. We don't want to ruin any others life, including making THEM feel suicidal. We just want to be allowed to go in peace.

 

[SeenMoreThanEnough]

I am, for two reasons. One, as the reply above already stated, you are traumatizing the train operator(s) and first responders. Two, it's no where near a guaranteed method. The chances that you will survive and end up maimed/severely disabled are quite high relative to other methods. It's just a bad idea. This is not the way.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me the train method sounds brutal, like it would be difficult to overcome the survival instinct to go through with and I would also fear it somehow going wrong.

But however as long as our right to die isn't accepted and we cannot all exit peacefully and reliably then it's insensitive to complain about people using the train method. Instead the pro lifers are the problem, if people are so desperate to the point that their only option is a brutal method then that's the fault of the pro lifers. Not everyone can access firearms, SN etc, and many have failed hanging, or methods like hanging and jumping aren't suitable for that person. Everybody is in different situations after all, so I think that people shouldn't judge.
If one wishes to attempt the train method, that is their decision but it sounds horrific to me the train method somehow failing.

 

[Heavenbound]

Not necessarily against it, but I would be afraid that it wouldn't kill me, but that I would end up being severely disabled.

 

[loopdaloop]

Don't really care about the aspect of maybe traumatizing someone, but I wouldn't do it because it has too many variables that are out your control. I don't know how reliable it is

 

[Hotsackage]

i use to think like that, but as people have stated, why make others suffer and u could end up mutilated and on feeding tubes

 

[SilentSadness]

The method is risky because it is illegal to trespass on train tracks, and it will traumatise the driver and cause an inconvenience to the passengers. However, I would never criticise someone for using it in this world where the right to die is not accepted, and we are instead forced into brutal options.

 

[hellispink]

I am not against it. We all know our limits. Sometimes one method is all we got.

 

[Azora]

Getting hit by a train is perhaps one of the most terrifying things you could ever make yourself do and the results aren't always dependable. Many people have survived train hits and the outcome is never pretty. I think you'd be better off just jumping off a building or a bridge.

 

[Departme]

Getting hit by a train is perhaps one of the most terrifying things you could ever make yourself do and the results aren't always dependable. Many people have survived train hits and the outcome is never pretty. I think you'd be better off just jumping off a building or a bridge.

If you place neck on track then your not going to survive. No need to jump thats just plain hard and risky. In the right conditions / tunnel at night then the driver or passengers would not even notice as its a neck so like a knife through butter not a bit clatter of bones and other body parts! I can see myself doing this method but no way could I do hanging, jumping etc. I guess we are all different in what works for us..

 

[glitterypearls]

SI will kick in and it will cause you to move a little which will make the method fail and just result in you having life-long injury that make you a vegetable or disabled which will make your life worse

traumatizing people, your family and the driver

 

[bed]

I'm against any method that directly involves other people who don't have a say in the matter. Suicide will inevitably cause a ripple effect on those around you but I do not want to make it any bigger than it needs to be and cause more unnecessary trauma.

 

[soolka]

People tend to be against it because it traumatizes other people, especially the driver.

 

[MoriLori]

As many stated, it's the risk of traumatizing the people involved with it (train driver, passengers, people who have to take care of it afterwards, etc...)

Though I am currently planning to ctb using the train method as well. And all I can say: it's literally just out of desperation. There are just so many strict laws in my country that make other (less gruesome) methods impossible to do. And if done correctly, this method is in fact very lethal.
The good thing is, I am getting more and more comfortable with the SN method, which is FAR less gruesome and less painful. Plus I don't have to traumatize innocent people that just wanna do their job. But if law will get in the way of me getting the SN, I have absolutely no idea what else to do. People are literally FORCED to choose the most brutal methods, because they are usually the most lethal ones. I don't think anyone wants to purposely inflict trauma and pain to innocent people, but if they are given no other choice I can't really blame them. It really sucks

 

[sheepgirl]

Because it's traumatise to others. My life has already been fucked, last thing I wanna do is fuck someone else's up (though inevitably my suicide will destroy my family - specifically my mum but I want to hurt as least people as possible.) there are drivers that have gotten ptsd from witnessing a suicide and being unable to stop it

 

[charlotte_]

Most likely because the method would be severely traumatizing to the individuals who witnessed it. Personally, if I were to release my pain by death, I would not want to cause it upon others too

 

[AresCohere]

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm genuinely considering it as a method so I just want to know everything before I commit

Using a train could traumatize additional people but it has a high success rate when done properly. At least for me, living in a fairly rural area, there are no trains so I'm not an expert in this.

This also seems like a method that primal instincts may be a problem with, but with proper preparation that shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

traumatizes the driver, could fail since you could back out at the last second and end up amputated, and the train may derail

 

[Twiceler]

I don't believe it will traumatize the driver. He must be pro-lifer to get this job. There are psychological tests that verify the driver is not scared about dead bodies he can meet. It sounds like a cheap trick from pro-lifers for persuading someone from doing it.

Anyways, it is SCARY when I hear the sound of the train approaching. It's getting louder and LOUDER the closer the train gets to you. That was my method at first, but I'm always losing vs train. I just can't stand still long enough, it feels like the time slows down. But I'm talking about big trains only. Thus i decided to go with SN.

 

[hamvil]

It's understandable that the train method may sound brutal and difficult to overcome the survival instinct to go through with. It's also understandable to have concerns about the method going wrong.

However, you make a valid point that as long as the right to die isn't accepted and people don't have access to peaceful and reliable exit options, it's insensitive to judge those who feel forced to resort to such methods. The responsibility lies with those who are opposed to the right to die.

It's important to recognize that everyone's situation is different and not everyone has access to firearms or SN, and some may have failed attempts at other methods. It's not our place to judge others for their choices, especially when they are dealing with a very difficult situation.

Ultimately, it's important to continue to have discussions about the right to die and access to peaceful and reliable exit options, so that people don't feel like they have no other choice but to resort to extreme methods.

 

[redbathingduck]

I don't believe it will traumatize the driver. He must be pro-lifer to get this job. There are psychological tests that verify the driver is not scared about dead bodies he can meet. It sounds like a cheap trick from pro-lifers for persuading someone from doing it.

I think CTB by train is a valid method and I wouldn't judge anyone who chooses to go this route, but I think it's ignorant to say that a train driver wouldn't get traumatized. I don't see what being pro-lifer or not has to do with that either, I don't think many people would be unscarred from something like that happening regardless of if they're pro-lifer or not. In my country the train driver has to get out of the train to try and perform first aid when colliding with a person and most of the time there isn't much left of the person, often with blood and body parts all over the place. I'm sure some people could stomach it better than others but I think it's hard to shrug something like that off, paired with the potential guilt they could feel of 'killing' a person even if it was out of their control.

 

[Ambivalent1]

The carnage is a bit much.

 

[PlanB]

I just don't have the heart to spread my suffering via traumatizing others. I much rather I leave a non-mangled corpse as well if I can help it. I care about how I affect whoever has to clean me up, identify me and find me.

 

[emptymiku]

scarring the train driver for life wouldn't be a very good thing to do.. other methods that don't traumatize any people would probably be better

 

[imcurious]

The train method is not reliable. There is a chance you may survive and will end up severely disabled. If that's what happens, you'll most likely need to depend on someone to care for you and you'll have even less autonomy over what happens in your life. Your chance to attempt again is probably little to none.

This one is more of a personal stance, but I don't feel it's morally or ethically right to go through with a method that could potentially traumatize the driver or the passengers. A person finding your body after consuming SN is a lot less scary than finding your body on train tracks. Yes, we might not have the right to peacefully die, and therefore we should not feel ashamed to take on more violent methods, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should involve others to witness our suffering in gorey detail to the point that it causes suffering to others too.

 

[TheSadStranger]

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm genuinely considering it as a method so I just want to know everything before I commit

You would be traumatizing the engineers of the train at the very least. Chance that you might survive as well.