Discussion do you care about strangers when you want to commit suicide?

[snowyyy]

ive seen that people have different ways of committing suicide, but there are some that, unfortunately, involve third parties. for example, lets say throwing yourself in front of a train driven by an innocent engineer with hundreds of people on board. do you feel any compassion for these strangers? do you not care what happens to them and only care about your own death? i ask because ive seen that many people advise against such methods where other people are involved, since its brutal and shows a lack of humanity or empathy.
but in my CTB method, unfortunately, other people would be involved, but i have no other way. i dont want another way; this one seems perfect to me. but i also dont want to be seen as a cruel person who destroyed someone else's life. although, on the one hand, once i die, i wont care about any of it

 

[BrainSplatter]

Yes and no like I've attempted FSH multiple times around others and they have found me yeah I feel so sort of guilt but it's not enough to stop me from CTB that's all I want and it's only temporary I must continue until I achieve death and to ensure my own peace finally happens like even people who don't CTB but die by other means it will hurt another human and leave a mark that's what death brings regardless I won't be here to see any of that so it's not worth caring about anymore

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't see how it could matter as we are all just going to cease existing anyway and it's a personal decision rather than about other people. It truly is the most horrific world where humans have made it illegal to cease existing painlessly, it's such terrible extreme cruelty how the only options people have to cease existing is to resort to such brutal methods, it's criminal to me how peaceful, guaranteed ways to cease existing with no more pain and no more torture are made inaccessible, I see so much evil in anti-suicide, all that anti-suicide does is just cause way more suffering in this existence so torturous and cruel that just never should had been imposed at all.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I imagine all suicides will involve third parties to some extent. Even those performed in a clinic- people will be there seeing someone die. They are at least expecting it there I suppose though.

But- all of us will presumably be seen by first responders, pathologists etc. The mess we leave behind will need to be cleaned up by someone.

It does concern me. To the extent that I would try to avoid a method that involves others or that is public. I'll also try to make the finding and removal of my corpse easier.

That said- I also value my own comfort while dying. And I mostly need to try to ensure my attempt is successful. So- it's more like I consider them slightly after me.

While I do feel bad for those left to deal with the mess- I also feel like the blame is on our society. I imagine many of us would opt to die at a clinic- reliably and out of sight- if we only had that choice. By limiting us so much in how we are able to leave- to some extent- society brings these gruesome deaths on itself.

I suppose I also think that planning a suicide in detail- so that it causes the least upheaval possible to others really should dispel the myth that suicide is some impulsive, selfish act. It can absolutely be one that has been thought through in immense detail with as much consideration for others as possible.

 

[rainatthebusstop]

Honestly considering my suicide method ensures I will be found by someone who's most likely not a first responder, I cannot tell you you're wrong for the method you chose.

However I think there's something to be said about the number of people inconvenienced. You're always gonna traumatize someone but by for instance throwing yourself in front of public transit you're inconveniencing everyone on the line where as if you were to hang yourself in nature you'll probably just inconvenience a small number of people.

 

[Forveleth]

If I could I would die in the middle of the woods where no one would have to see me. I want to try to involve as few people as possible with my death. The last thing u want to be is the reason some undeserving person needs therapy. Unfortunately, EMS workers will be involved, but I am aiming to use a method that does not leave me looking horrible.

 

[itsallogrenow]

I always used to say I would never do anything like jump in front if a train or off a building, as I didn't want to cause trouble for others.

But now I've come to point where my desire to die is now greater than my care for others. If my OD attempt fails, there is a train with my name on it.

 

[SoverignDreamer97]

I am a people-pleaser, but there are rules:

1. "You cannot please everyone; control the things you can control." ~Suncha Ferreira (Victus Group)/Mark 8:36, Matthew 13:12

2. The grass withers, the flowers fade, because the breath of the Lord blows upon it; surely the people are grass.
The grass withers, the flowers fade, but the word of our God stands forever. (Isaiah 40:7-8)

3. The world hates liabilities, and would rather they not exist, as much as the rules dictate that all life is inherently valuable. (Proverbs 25:17)

Therefore, as much as I desire to live, and that a world without me would be awfully dull and grey, this isn't up to me; if I die, I die; though my father, mother, and the whole world forsake me, the Lord will bring me up. (Esther 4:11, Psalm 27:10)

 

[PanaxMan]

ive seen that people have different ways of committing suicide, but there are some that, unfortunately, involve third parties. for example, lets say throwing yourself in front of a train driven by an innocent engineer with hundreds of people on board. do you feel any compassion for these strangers? do you not care what happens to them and only care about your own death? i ask because ive seen that many people advise against such methods where other people are involved, since its brutal and shows a lack of humanity or empathy.
but in my CTB method, unfortunately, other people would be involved, but i have no other way. i dont want another way; this one seems perfect to me. but i also dont want to be seen as a cruel person who destroyed someone else's life. although, on the one hand, once i die, i wont care about any of it

Nah. The most likely thing is that a stranger is gonna find me dead or I'm in a coma anyway (vsed (water fasting) until death)

 

[bg733]

Nah. The most likely thing is that a stranger is gonna find me dead or I'm in a coma anyway (vsed (water fasting) until death)

Don't do that, you will suffer

 

[PanaxMan]

Don't do that, you will suffer

Nah I've already suffered. I'm currently homeless so not like things are gonna get better unless a miracle happens ig

 

[snowyyy]

Zawsze mówiłem, że nigdy nie zrobiłbym niczego takiego, jak skok pod pociąg albo zeskoczenie z budynku, ponieważ nie chcę sprawiać kłopotów innym.

Ale teraz doszedłem do punktu, w którym moje pragnienie śmierci jest teraz większe niż troska o innych. Jeśli moja próba przedawkowania się nie powiedzie, czeka na mnie pociąg z moim nazwiskiem.

I always used to say I would never do anything like jump in front if a train or off a building, as I didn't want to cause trouble for others.

But now I've come to point where my desire to die is now greater than my care for others. If my OD attempt fails, there is a train with my name on it.

samehere. take care buddy i hope u will find your peace.

 

[thousandislandstare]

I feel reluctant to leave behind gore or anything especially traumatizing and even feel an obligation to not leave behind clutter. I would also definitely take precautions to avoid endangering whoever discovers or is tasked with transporting my remains. I'm really not sure why.

 

[boyafraid]

I would feel bad if a random innocent person watched me commit suicide. I think that's why my attemps in the past were always inside my house. Also, my method changed but it will still be inside my house. Only strangers that will see me are the paramedics ):