Method When is jumping immoral? How to make it moral?

[TokaNoOwari]

@SoLowHollow48 brought up morals in connection to a different method than mine in one of my previous posts.
While my method is jumping off buildings and not in front of a train, it did spark these moral questions of mine again that I can't seem to stop thinking about for days.

[...] I commented on how jumping in front of a train is a bad idea [...] They're going to have to go down there, gather your limbs, wash your blood off the tracks, and divert the passengers to the exit to get themselves a ride on another vehicle or commuter line [...] Show sympathy but don't overlook the impact the victim caused too. [...]

I have been struggling to process something similar for many years, and I would really value some outside perspectives on it.
I grew up in a big city and went to a school with an incredibly oppressive environment. We unfortunately lost several students during my time there to jumping/falling suicides. Because I was also struggling immensely back then, I very much understood the suffocating despair they were feeling and why they just wanted a way out of this torture camp. However, one of the incidents involved a girl who fell and tragically killed innocent passersby in the process. It terrified me. While admittedly I was quite young at the time, I never considered this possibility.

Ever since then, I have been completely torn apart morally, and never dared to try again. I have deep empathy for the pain she was in, but I cannot reconcile it with the reality that she made a choice that physically endangered, and in the end killed, unaware strangers and forced a highly traumatic scene on everyday people. I am very torn on how to feel about it.

Even worse, I was about to make the same choice just a couple of weeks before her, but I stepped away from the edge in the end. I never went further than trying to figure out the tipping point before gravity would have done the rest of my job. It was an experience to say the least.

Disclaimer me romanticising suicide: As far as I can think back, falling was my number one method. It actually still is, as I find the idea of flying incredibly serene and liberating. I just can't figure out how I could even pull it off without tearing apart my own moral compass. The city reaches out further than I can see, is incredibly crowded, and even if I leave the city, what then? Where do I go? Break in on a railway bridge only to end up falling on a tree and be crippled? It feels impossible to do, especially since RedBull removed its flying perk. (Sorry, I had to)

How the fuck would I even reliably kill myself by jumping with such heavy limitations? Anybody got some input or thoughts on this whole topic? Pro and con are welcome.
I'm overwhelmed.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suppose- like all methods, there are varying amounts of immorality to them. As in- we can try to limit the amount of people who might be traumatized/ witness it. By choosing more remote locations at times when people aren't around so much for example. Even if jumping is the prefered method- jumping into water from great height would seem less likely to cause injury to others than jumping from a building in an urban area in rush hour.

I still think that research is really important though. I have considered jumping but then, I've also seen disturbing reports of people surviving but with terrible injuries in the locations I've considered.

I suspect all suicides cause some distress but then- I think there's also the argument that our societies have brought that on themselves. I'm sure most people would much rather pass peacefully and out of sight but, those options are often denied us. While I do think it's resonsible to consider the impact on others, I also think people should realise that when you corner a desperate creature- it will lash out to try to escape.

 

[TokaNoOwari]

I suppose- like all methods, there are varying amounts of immorality to them. As in- we can try to limit the amount of people who might be traumatized/ witness it. By choosing more remote locations at times when people aren't around so much for example. Even if jumping is the prefered method- jumping into water from great height would seem less likely to cause injury to others than jumping from a building in an urban area in rush hour.

There is actually a high bridge, infamous for suicides, spanning above the water. A year ago, I went there, but it seems like it is completely suicide-proofed nowadays by metal mesh fencing running all along the walkable areas and plenty of safeguards preventing other ways on top of that bridge. Jumping into water, however, is a great option. I will have a look around if there are any other bridges that are high enough. Might be tricky since I don't want to take any risks by choosing only a semi-high bridge.

I suspect all suicides cause some distress but then- I think there's also the argument that our societies have brought that on themselves. I'm sure most people would much rather pass peacefully and out of sight but, those options are often denied us. While I do think it's resonsible to consider the impact on others, I also think people should realise that when you corner a desperate creature- it will lash out to try to escape.

I very much agree with that. There needs to be an actual balance that takes both sides into account. At least here, there isn't really any understanding towards the suicidal person. We are, for the most part, isolated and silenced by society. Though I could just slash my neck with a tanto. Somehow, that is seen as good. Well, maybe not as much nowadays. :D