What is the biggest lie you have ever believed in?

[Going Home]

"We know best"

 

[Idorus]

''Things get better''
''People care about you''
''School is the most important thing''
''I'm sorry''

yuuuuuuuuuuuuup !!

(= yup ;-)

 

[tomz323]

That I could get along with my parents, its a lie I told myself however.

 

[throwaway123]

The existence of love.

It's all a lie.

 

[MistakesHappen]

T'was meant to give a little primate a good, positive outlook in life, in the hope that it might succeed better with such a positive outlook...
I mean - I beg your fucking pardon... is that so hard to understand ???
If there's ONE THING that pisses me totally off about this forum, it's that human culture of victimhood.
Why do you fuckers think wolves are howling ?
Huh ?

@Joannf , you could have asked for clarifications before altering.
English is not my first language, pardon my eventual mistakes.
I'm not talking about sharing affection or hoping that your child will have a good life.
I would hope the same thing for my hypothetical child, and i too would say "you are special" because he IS special to me.

I'm talking about growing up with important figures who say that God has a special plan for you, that you will save dozens of people from hell and that those people are waiting for you to start on the path predestined by the Lord.
Because if you fail, if you are not perfect it's completely your fault. Jesus has washed you with his blood, so you have everything you need to be perfect and immaculate.
When you see people around you doing great things, you see them speaking in tongues or having visions, you see them completely enveloped in the presence of the Lord and you start looking at yourself, noticing that you don't feel nothing, noticing that all of your defects continue to persist even though Christ has offered you his help, you start thinking that something is wrong about you, that you are choosing to be rotten, that God has not a plan for you anymore because you wasted your chance and that now you are worthless. You are going to stay back, crippled in the soul, while other people are going to fulfill what you have failed to do.
This is what i'm talking about, growing up thinking that life will give you every chance possible to become a great man, and that when you fail, when you fall into depression, when you are too weak to battle your demons, it's all your fault.

You should not give a child the falsehood that if he wants to he can be without sin, because he is too young to understand but will believe it anyway.

I don't care if i'm playing the victim here, i know the effect those words have had on me and i especially don't care of the good intentions.

 

[Joannf]

@Joannf , you could have asked for clarifications before altering.
English is not my first language, pardon my eventual mistakes.
I'm not talking about sharing affection or hoping that your child will have a good life.
I would hope the same thing for my hypothetical child, and i too would say "you are special" because he IS special to me.

I'm talking about growing up with important figures who say that God has a special plan for you, that you will save dozens of people from hell and that those people are waiting for you to start on the path predestined by the Lord.
Because if you fail, if you are not perfect it's completely your fault. Jesus has washed you with his blood, so you have everything you need to be perfect and immaculate.
When you see people around you doing great things, you see them speaking in tongues or having visions, you see them completely enveloped in the presence of the Lord and you start looking at yourself, noticing that you don't feel nothing, noticing that all of your defects continue to persist even though Christ has offered you his help, you start thinking that something is wrong about you, that you are choosing to be rotten, that God has not a plan for you anymore because you wasted your chance and that now you are worthless. You are going to stay back, crippled in the soul, while other people are going to fulfill what you have failed to do.
This is what i'm talking about, growing up thinking that life will give you every chance possible to become a great man, and that when you fail, when you fall into depression, when you are too weak to battle your demons, it's all your fault.

You should not give a child the falsehood that if he wants to he can be without sin, because he is too young to understand but will believe it anyway.

I don't care if i'm playing the victim here, i know the effect those words have had on me and i especially don't care of the good intentions.

Altering ? I'm confused...

If you're caught up in religious delusion and that makes you suicidal, then the solution is simple but probably hard to take, as your only chance is to scoff at people who 'speak in tongues', and leave them behind. Not your piece of cake, as you explained. So ? You seem to be Christian (the Muslim solution here would be to go on a rampage, then enter paradise). That's a pity, as Christianity is the masochistic flavor of the Abrahamic belief systems. So the only way would really be to get out of it, go rational and reflect about what the Spaniards mean when they say, 'Caguendios.' This may be a horrible thought for someone like you, but it's life or death, and you only have one life. People with visions destroyed it for you.

 

[MistakesHappen]

Altering ? I'm confused...

=~ get angry, i think i used the wrong translation

I do not completely understand your message, not an offence but you have a particular way of writing.

I am am atheist now but it's been a long journey, i had to detoxify myself from twisted ways of thinking and other bullshit.
I do not believe that God has a plan for me anymore, but when i did i felt like this

you are choosing to be rotten, God has not a plan for you anymore because you wasted your chance and that now you are worthless. You are going to stay back, crippled in the soul, while other people are going to fulfill what you have failed to do.

This is what i mean for the Biggest lie i ever believed in

 

[Joannf]

=~ get angry, i think i used the wrong translation

I do not completely understand your message, not an offence but you have a particular way of writing.

I am am atheist now but it's been a long journey, i had to detoxify myself from twisted ways of thinking and other bullshit.
I do not believe that God has a plan for me anymore, but when i did i felt like this


This is what i mean for the Biggest lie i ever believed in

Wow - good... you were talking so much about people who were greater visionairies than yourself that I had almost no hope of turning you into, uh, someone who sees the world in a more naturalistic way, and just accepts it for what it probably is.
Yes I do understand how you must have felt. I'm also used to people not understanding me ;)
Humans have a hard time living without delusions, but the can be free to the degree their neurology and unavoidable programming allows them...

 

[MistakesHappen]

Humans have a hard time living without delusions, but the can be free to the degree their neurology and unavoidable programming allows them...

I agree.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

"We are all special and talented in some way, we all have a purpose in life."

I always called bs on that because some newborn babies die from birth.

 

[dandan]

I thought a psychiatrist and a psychologist would guide me to heal me, that with their aid I would feel alright. After ECT, many pills, I was worse.

But today an endocrinologist with some pills and testosterone are doing the trick, I'm better than ever. Confident , energetic, fun... etc..


I just have 23days , so I can't sing victory, but I'm getting there

 

[Pistolero114]

Real men don't cry.

 

[Asta]

Man-made religions!

 

[Kuolema]

MIne:

That there would be a God, a hereafter, or any higher power associated with it. God, I have been blind! I really saw the light when it all suddenly fell into nothing. What a shame that "seeing the light" has only been widely discussed in terms of religion. It's time to pay attention to the light that shows up when God and all its derivatives die.

Interesting... what do you mean by "light"? I have seen the light too but it quickly faded back away into darkness. I believe in God, but not a god that can be described in words or scripture. I believe in ALL. Not trying to convert you to any religion I'm just genuinely curious as to what your beliefs are.

 

[ish]

The lie was my understanding of the surrounding
to the world in a superficial way, too much
I trusted the views of others. They deepened through it
conflicts within me. In the light, in fact
You can look when you think yourself and in a short-term
starting with yourself. I'm dead, but I'm staying for now,
I would say that my life is almost complete.

 

[azucaramargo]

That people who cares about you will try to understand and help you.

Yes, this is a heart-breaking reality. You put it beautifully into words.

When my (ex) partner told me he loved me.

Now I believe he would be relieved even happy if he were to hear I committed suicide.

That is not true at all. I really believe somehow that the ones in whom we've sunk the most hope -- even though they've disappointed us -- are still very affected by us, you know? Maybe they don't think about us everyday, but I think by loving them that we've caused some shape shift in their lives. I don't want to go on and on, but I believe you are stronger and better than your ex partner.

When my (ex) partner told me he loved me.

Now I believe he would be relieved even happy if he were to hear I committed suicide.

That is not true at all. I really believe somehow that the ones in whom we've sunk the most hope -- even though they've disappointed us -- are still very affected us by us, you know? Maybe they don't think about us everyday, but I think by loving them that we've caused some shape shift in their lives. I don't want to go on and on, but I believe you are stronger and better than your ex partner.

Other than the things that people already said in here, I believed for a long time that I was a very intelligent person because my parents and teachers said that to me frequently. Well, turns out that I'm not. I think that people should have already figured it out in this century that being a nerd doesn't equal smart. Not all smart people are nerds, and it just makes sense that not all nerds are necessarily smart. Just because I like studying doesn't mean that I'm good at it, and realizing that the hard way because people didn't tell me the truth before was a heavy blow to my self esteem.

Why do you think you aren't intelligent?

 

[Zer0]

At some point i believed things would get better

 

[Life sucks]

Life itself is the biggest lie. From philosophical/scientific point of view, its all a lie. I've written previously about this lie. The thing its terrifying to know while very simple and straightforward.

 

[Beautifulletdown]

That if you work hard and give it you're all life can be what you want it.

 

[MissNietzsche]

That god was real

 

[Fadinglife]

that world is beautiful

MIne:

That there would be a God, a hereafter, or any higher power associated with it. God, I have been blind! I really saw the light when it all suddenly fell into nothing. What a shame that "seeing the light" has only been widely discussed in terms of religion. It's time to pay attention to the light that shows up when God and all its derivatives die.

this is a good thread Idorus.

 

[Jolene40]

I always believed doctors knew best and there would always be people who would go out their way to help you if you became unwell. My experience of health care has horrified and traumatised me and made me realise it's not like this ideal so many believe when they are healthy.

 

[bLack_miLk]

Without thinking about it:

That my life has actual, objective value.

Hehe.

 

[azucaramargo]

I always believed doctors knew best and there would always be people who would go out their way to help you if you became unwell. My experience of health care has horrified and traumatised me and made me realise it's not like this ideal so many believe when they are healthy.

Have you heard Ray LaMontagne's song, "Jolene"? So beautiful!

 

[Ko9]

Others having my best intrest.

 

[azucaramargo]

Others having my best intrest.

Yeah, this was a big one for me, too.

 

[Jolene40]

Have you heard Ray LaMontagne's song, "Jolene"? So beautiful!

No I haven't but I will go Google it now.....

 

[Rugnificent]

That tomatoes are fruits

 

[sadbunny]

That anything is possible

 

[Numbtopain97]

" you're special "