Warning to people in the UK who have bought sn

[Jumper Geo]

I should be worried because I got it sent to my girlfriends house

Right on brother can't wait to see her face when you get her sectioned,

 

[asifkhanny12345]

Oh shit

 

[SugarbushMtn]

Yes, very 1984 but it is not big biz up your ass, it is big the govt of course..

 

[Dear Flabby]

Yes, very 1984 but it is not big biz up your ass, it is big the govt of course..

Sadly, in many places, big biz and big gov't are two arms of the same monster

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Sadly, in many places, big biz and big gov't are two arms of the same monster

In Nazi Germany, the government had infiltrated all facets of business. In modern private tyrannies, capital infiltrates all facets of The State.

-citation: not me, and I'm too lazy to google. but ... don't want to plagiarize. (Chomsky?)

 

[Lastravel]

Tell them that if you wanted to commit suicide you would just have to jump from a bridge.

 

[Lostnotfound]

As an aside, its not illegal to commit suicide in the UK, and they cant do anything if you are planning it. They can only actually 'act' if you are caught in the 'act'. I know this as they have done their safe and well checks on me many times and ask me everytime if I intend to CTB and I say yeah, what you going to do about it? There is nothing they can do. I am diagnosed, in contact with GP and mental health and know the crisis line numbers and not actually doing anything at that point in time so nothing they can do. They leave telling me to call them if I feel I am about to act on my feelings and I say no. Nothing they can do. If you have full mental capacity then they cant keep you against your will.

 

[Sweet Release]

Thanks for the heads up.
Can't let them get my tub!

 

[Alec]

I feel like they had no right to take it from you, you could've refused to give it and then just wait till they leave but I understand why you would rather give one to them just to get rid of them. But still they would need search warrant to look around your place without your consent and to get warrant there has to be evidence you are doing something illegal and you didn't do anything illegal at all. Plus this is stupid on another level, I understand that with SN it's much easier to kill oneself but a person could do it with a knife from the kitchen, did they come knocking at your door because your kitchen has knives? Did they take every rope in your house? Every cleaning chemical that you might have? All of these can be used for suicide all they did was try to take away an option for a peaceful death, how do these people sleep at night.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Damn, I missed the boat! I was going to buy from that same seller (£9.80, 100% feedback, user/seller name that rhymes with 'hunter'). His SN listing vanished and reappeared a few time over the weeks and he appeared to be the only UK seller of it on 'that' auction site. It's my guess the police have traced at least one SN suicide/attempt back to products sold by himself, contacted him and asked for/demanded a list of persons he's sold it to. So I'd imagine the law will be in touch, just tell 'em you flushed it. I wonder how many sales of SN that seller had and if he had any inclination of what it's intended use was (presumably not).

Mind you if my name and address pops up with my criminal record they will send me a goodbye card

 

[Delia]

Hence why if we talk about sellers we need to be much more subtiiiiile.
Subtilityyyyy.
Had to advise a guy not to post publicly that there was a probably legitimate seller at [insert whetever address here]
Subitilityyyyyyyyy mannnn...

Esp considering how UK has a hard on for this site lately

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Mind you if my name and address pops up with my criminal record they will send me a goodbye card

Dude, I fucking know, right? The lying fucking pigs who came to my house pretending to be concerned were almost adorable.

Like, lads, just say "we're so psyched to pick up your corpse, please do it in a body bag"

You've hated me and my family over 20 years, you can be honest. I hate your stinking guts, too.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Thanks that's a bit of an eye opener. Sn is listed as a reportable poison that's shouldn't be sold to the public, particularly in such a high concentration. I'm amazed this was being sold so publicly.

I thought it was legal and you can own it, but it does say it's a reportable offence, but tbh it seems no one has really had a problem finding it.

 

[Lostnotfound]

Police at the door can be intimidating if they threaten to section you etc. It's easier to just shut them up and fob them off. I wanted help when they came to safe and well check me so i mouthed off at them. When things first happened I had police or ambulance two or three times a week and reports saying I was suicidal and PPN's all over the place but they couldn't actually do anything as I wasn't going voluntarily (the DCI in charge said I was doing this to intimidate DD and would have a field day with that) so I told them yes I am suicidal, yes I have the means here in the house (had morphine at the time) and yes I intend to take it and hope it will kill me. They just said to call them if I did and left me, sent a letter to my GP about a week later and that was it. They have very few powers unless you are in a public place and actually in the act but they try to intimidate you.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

OK......So I am going to launch into this thread before I head to another about SN, I have recently started to think about SN over Jumping, Maybe easier overall, Is there any decent/reputable UK sellers? I don't know much about it, despite it being the biggest thing on this forum, as its not something I looked at before. Im not asking for names or links, just some hope its still gettable in the UK!

 

[Lostnotfound]

Police at the door can be intimidating if they threaten to section you etc. It's easier to just shut them up and fob them off. I wanted help when they came to safe and well check me so i mouthed off at them. When things first happened I had police or ambulance two or three times a week and reports saying I was suicidal and PPN's all over the place but they couldn't actually do anything as I wasn't going voluntarily (the DCI in charge said I was doing this to intimidate DD and would have a field day with that) so I told them yes I am suicidal, yes I have the means here in the house (had morphine at the time) and yes I intend to take it and hope it will kill me. They just said to call them if I did and left me, sent a letter to my GP about a week later and that was it. They have very few powers unless you are in a public place and actually in the act but they try to intimidate you.

Oh and I hope the pro-lifers and haters who are lurking read that - feel free to pm me for details, I can prove this to be true!

OK......So I am going to launch into this thread before I head to another about SN, I have recently started to think about SN over Jumping, Maybe easier overall, Is there any decent/reputable UK sellers? I don't know much about it, despite it being the biggest thing on this forum, as its not something I looked at before. Im not asking for names or links, just some hope its still gettable in the UK!

I am struggling to get hold of it - UK seller or shipped in

 

[Indieblue]

Oh and I hope the pro-lifers and haters who are lurking read that - feel free to pm me for details, I can prove this to be true!

I am struggling to get hold of it - UK seller or shipped in

For gods sake let people who are suffering can die in peace already. I am sick of this society.

 

[Lostnotfound]

I thought it was legal and you can own it, but it does say it's a reportable offence, but tbh it seems no one has really had a problem finding it.

The 'seller' has to report that they have sold it and not to report it is an offence according to what I am reading, Its not illegal to sell it or to own it but I guess people dont want to admit they are selling a poison to a member of the public

For gods sake let people who are suffering can die in peace already. I am sick of this society.

Why legalise suicide but make all peaceful methods almost impossible? It was legalised in the 60"s so its not a new thing. We must all be bad people whose end must be horrific and painful if we chose our own time by the looks of it. DIsgusting - animals dont have to suffer so why should we?

 

[ctbUniquectb]

why should we (suffer)?

Spoiler

 

[omoidarui]

I did, they asked what I wanted it for even though they knew, so I said to cure meat, they laughed and said they knew I was lying. Unfortunately I do have a history with them and my mental health.

o ok. sorry you had to go through that, i did wonder if this might eventually happen given the popularity of the method. virtual addresses might be the best thing to do for anyone ordering online.

 

[Indieblue]

The 'seller' has to report that they have sold it and not to report it is an offence according to what I am reading, Its not illegal to sell it or to own it but I guess people dont want to admit they are selling a poison to a member of the public

Why legalise suicide but make all peaceful methods almost impossible? It was legalised in the 60"s so its not a new thing. We must all be bad people whose end must be horrific and painful if we chose our own time by the looks of it. DIsgusting - animals dont have to suffer so why should we?

It is not legalized in my country but still it is disgusting the way they only take away relatively peaceful methods while leaving things like knives, a rope, bleach behind, as someone already said. We live in the society where animals lifes value is more important then humans. That is why we see many psychopaths nowdays who says things like "i will kill hundreds of people if it means i can save a dog".

 

[Lostnotfound]

It is not legalized in my country but still it is disgusting the way they only take away relatively peaceful methods while leaving things like knives, a rope, bleach behind, as someone already said. We live in the society where animals lifes value is more important then humans. That is why we see many psychopaths nowdays who says things like "i will kill hundreds of people if it means i can save a dog".

I am UK and I am not a lawyer or anything like that but I have been through the legislation with a senior police officer because of the situation I am in. Suicide, plans to commit suicide, buying legal goods with the intention of suicide etc is not illegal and nor does it constitute a mental health disorder but the police are not mental health professionals so if you are in the process of CTB their duty is to place you under a 135 or 136 and take you to a place of safety so you can be seen by a mental health professional. In most circumstances, the police admit that the mental health professional will discharge you unless there is evidence of a mental health condition outside of the CTB criteria. Assisted suicide is illegal but the definition of it is doing an act to cause someone to commit suicide. Sitting with them or failing to call for help is not assisted suicide as there was no act. Doing nothing about a suicide in progress is not illegal but you may be investigated so its a case of not doing anything to enable it - providing drugs or links to drugs or other equipment etc. Do nothing and no law is broken.

Therefore we are a relatively pro choice country, even allowing our doctors to support VESD at the end of life through terminal illness etc so why ensure that the only choices we can make are painful!

 

[HelensNepenthe]

This posts read off fear mongering. Going through a couple of your old posts, you already had product available back in August last year in the Partners thread. Were you just purchasing stockpiles of more product? It also sounds like you've had prior history with NHS before where you escaped from the hospital after an overdose.

I don't know the connection of why you had product back in August that didn't get attention from anyone, yet you know that more product you bought in September is now what got you a wellness check. In my opinion, your prior history with the NHS and perhaps talking openly about this to someone, or suggesting anything (which we would never know) would have had a wellness check sent to you.

This is my opinion anyway. There are some loose connections in this post that makes me skeptical. Owning SN and having police use resources to come take it away from you is the lowest priority in any police officer's day. There definitely is more to this story than "I bought SN on [site], it happened several months later police showed up at my door demanding that my SN".

If in the case this story is true, you have a some sort of threat level and posting on a public forum regarding this situation is the least of your worries... or even purchasing SN through said outlets.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

I bought sn back in September from a famous auction website.
Today I had a visit from the police. They said they had had a phone call from police Scotland, (I'm Midlands, England), who were investigating someone selling sn and my details had come up. Basically it was a welfare check and wanted my sn. Fortunately I have 3 tubs hidden in different places , so gave them 1. They threatened to call an ambulance and have me assessed, but I explained I'd bought it in September so they said they would be in touch with mental health services and to expect a call/visit.
So just be wary, I bought it in September!

The Debreather page has not updated even though it's March 2nd, so I'd imagine there's a good chance of that being strung along for a long time

I did, they asked what I wanted it for even though they knew, so I said to cure meat, they laughed and said they knew I was lying. Unfortunately I do have a history with them and my mental health.

You couldn't just refuse to give it to them? What would happen then?

What you did with giving them one of three was probably the way better thing to do though

It's really easy to get I was over the butchers, meat market and said about SN and he raised a huge bag of it and said do you want some, I just laughed as I was panic searching online as it's getting harder to obtain but a 5 minute walk away and hey presto there's tons of it.

Is it mixed in with regular salt, though? Like pink Prague powder? I'm not sure if that will work for suicide if that's the case

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Lucky woman

Hanging hurts, imo

Having read snippets of the coroners report from the media reporting. It appears the police didn't give two hoots. They would of been perfectly aware of the section 135 procedure but chose to give section 136 as their defence (bad judgement/indifference} so that poor woman was able to see her plan to completion. Shame on them !

I don't like hanging at all as a method but that sort of attitude will possibly also prevent people from painlessly killing themselves

Right on brother can't wait to see her face when you get her sectioned,

Sad

This posts read off fear mongering. Going through a couple of your old posts, you already had product available back in August last year in the Partners thread. Were you just purchasing stockpiles of more product? It also sounds like you've had prior history with NHS before where you escaped from the hospital after an overdose.

I don't know the connection of why you had product back in August that didn't get attention from anyone, yet you know that more product you bought in September is now what got you a wellness check. In my opinion, your prior history with the NHS and perhaps talking openly about this to someone, or suggesting anything (which we would never know) would have had a wellness check sent to you.

This is my opinion anyway. There are some loose connections in this post that makes me skeptical. Owning SN and having police use resources to come take it away from you is the lowest priority in any police officer's day. There definitely is more to this story than "I bought SN on [site], it happened several months later police showed up at my door demanding that my SN".

If in the case this story is true, you have a some sort of threat level and posting on a public forum regarding this situation is the least of your worries... or even purchasing SN through said outlets.

Idk my opinion about every word of your post but yeah it's possible this person is telling a fake story and this never really happened

The thought had crossed my mind

 

[jgm63]

This posts read off fear mongering. Going through a couple of your old posts, you already had product available back in August last year in the Partners thread. Were you just purchasing stockpiles of more product? It also sounds like you've had prior history with NHS before where you escaped from the hospital after an overdose.

I don't know the connection of why you had product back in August that didn't get attention from anyone, yet you know that more product you bought in September is now what got you a wellness check. In my opinion, your prior history with the NHS and perhaps talking openly about this to someone, or suggesting anything (which we would never know) would have had a wellness check sent to you.

This is my opinion anyway. There are some loose connections in this post that makes me skeptical. Owning SN and having police use resources to come take it away from you is the lowest priority in any police officer's day. There definitely is more to this story than "I bought SN on [site], it happened several months later police showed up at my door demanding that my SN".

If in the case this story is true, you have a some sort of threat level and posting on a public forum regarding this situation is the least of your worries... or even purchasing SN through said outlets.

Hi @Livinginhell
Just trying to better understand the flow of events....
A post of yours from May said you bought SN
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/do-you-have-your-supplies.15962/post-306477
It seems you still had it in August
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...les-on-page-1-before-posting.1253/post-392813

So you bought more in September ?
What happened to the SN you already bought in May ?

I'm sure there's a logical explanation, just trying to understand it a bit better....

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I'm gonna ask again since the question hasn't been answered. Was it the auction p-guy or an auction uk-guy

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Hanging hurts, imo

Not as much as several more decades of life ...

... only to die painfully either way???

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Not as much as several more decades of life ...

... only to die painfully either way???

I'm just saying it's a pretty torturous way out

 

[ctbUniquectb]

I'm just saying it's a pretty torturous way out

Not as torturous as several more decades of life ...

... only to die painfully either way???