Warning: There might be a high profile scammer active on the board.

[angie]

Wow. Banner is a good idea. The more reminders you put out there then you may just lower the victim count.

How do you know that individual has taken thousands ?

 

[CrushedHopes]

With all due respect, @Fightingsioux, I am fighting the urge to dox my real name and link the Twitter threads so that you could see for yourself how thoroughly I destroyed my entire future. It's not "hurr durr, it's just some forum you got banned from, now you wanna off yourself"? Either your reading comprehension is really bad, or you're not seeing the bigger picture here.

I won't have a career in professional voiceover (and its related production work), ever. No matter how much I try to change, and no matter how much "help" I tried to get. I can't even do them on an amateur level anymore, because everyone knows that I am a POS, and they want nothing to do with me. Frankly, you don't understand how much being a part of the voice acting community means to me. It's not just some "forum" - it's the entire circle. Okay? Eye roll all you want. Laugh all you want. I don't care. But I shall not tolerate you belittling me for my decision to CTB anymore. I don't want to live a dry and boring life. I want out of this.

 

[trynacbt]

But that's exactly what I'm saying: feeling hopeless and being in a situation that is hopeless are two different things.
"Let everything happen to you
Beauty and terror
Just keep going
No feeling is final"

― Rainer Maria Rilke

I don't think that's true. That's what depression is, sometimes. What's true to someone's psyche becomes their reality. And if that reality is the truth to them, their behavior will continue to feed into it until it has become a physical reality. It's a vicious cycle. Feelings are fucking powerful.

 

[WhiteDespair]

How do you know that individual has taken thousands ?

That's not me. That's @Stan

People messaged him.

 

[fightingsioux]

This is just fucking rude.

Don't think so

@fightingsioux
Rachel and the other poster started out respectful, as you quoted, but then started to mock him by saying thing like "I'll get the popcorn". Mocking a person I will call extremely disrespectful. And them wouldn't stop. Perhaps you and they and others do not agree with him and his situation, but to resort to mockery just plain sucks. Perhaps you and I disagree on what is disrespectful.

Don't remember that part, and if that's true then yes, that's going too far. But the essential part of it is that they were merely saying that the poster's problems were those that could be fairly easily overcome, with a little effort.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Don't think so

You would be wrong.

 

[angie]

How do you know that individual has taken thousands ?

oh ok sorry

 

[LonelyLight]

Don't think so

Don't remember that part, and if that's true then yes, that's going too far. But the essential part of it is that they were merely saying that the poster's problems were those that could be fairly easily overcome, with a little effort.

She also said "just end it then OP" which is nasty to say to anyone ever, we are supposed to be supporting each other here but the place is turning into a shit show.

 

[CrushedHopes]

But that's exactly what I'm saying: feeling hopeless and being in a situation that is hopeless are two different things.

I am telling you that *it is* absolutely hopeless. It's not just a feeling. I know so. I was a headstrong person that wouldn't let some trolls or a small group of haters get me down. I would keep finding different solutions until there was a way out.

But not in this case. I'm choosing to come to terms with my own imminent death. I'm a waste of life. I actively waste resources. Plenty of people deserve it more than me. I am doing the responsible thing by ending myself. Okay?

But the essential part of it is that they were merely saying that the poster's problems were those that could be fairly easily overcome, with a little effort.

Yeah.... no. "Little effort"? Are you kidding me? Have you ever experienced not being able to do something you really, really, really like to do, and be told that you can't do them anymore? Well? Have you? I'm guessing not. You don't understand the mental anguish I am experiencing. How *dare* you belittle me for my pain. How *dare* you.

 

[fightingsioux]

You would be wrong.

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And you're talking about rude?

 

[WhiteDespair]

oh ok sorry

All good.

 

[Stan]

How do you know that individual has taken thousands ?

tallying up the total given to me by the victims

 

[fightingsioux]

I don't think that's true. That's what depression is, sometimes. What's true to someone's psyche becomes their reality. And if that reality is the truth to them, their behavior will continue to feed into it until it has become a physical reality. It's a vicious cycle. Feelings are fucking powerful.

Of course, but they can be changed. We can respectfully disagree on this.

 

[trynacbt]

I'm glad I found this place a month and a half ago. I imagine it is not an easy place to navigate for new members these days :/

 

[Stan]

Seriously gone off topic now!

 

[color_me_gone]

@fightingsioux
Your line of thinking is what people get when they visit shrinks, dismissive.
This forum is supposed to be (AND IS) a better alternative to that.

 

[fightingsioux]

She also said "just end it then OP" which is nasty to say to anyone ever, we are supposed to be supporting each other here but the place is turning into a shit show.

That's no good and nothing I'd ever say. She was wrong if she said that. But again, there's nothing wrong--in some situations--to encourage someone to take some time and think things over.

Done with this, best of luck.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Perhaps we should lock this thread if we're just going to go back and forth on whether or not my decision in wanting to CTB is justified (frankly speaking, only I get the final say on that, since that choice is mine and mine alone). But I will say this - Fightingsioux doesn't fully comprehend why I want to CTB. He still thinks it's some small scale niche forum I got kicked out from that has no impact in my career choice. He's wrong. And that is a fact.

 

[trynacbt]

That's no good and nothing I'd ever say. She was wrong if she said that. But again, there's nothing wrong--in some situations--to encourage someone to take some time and think things over.

Done with this, best of luck.

Before you go—why not take some time... and think things over?

 

[LonelyLight]

That's no good and nothing I'd ever say. She was wrong if she said that. But again, there's nothing wrong--in some situations--to encourage someone to take some time and think things over.

Done with this, best of luck.

I absolutely agree with you, its good to encourage someone with advice and knowledge you might have that you think could help them. Just not the way they did it in the end that's all. I'm also done with this now, everyone could bicker about this all night but I'm sleepy all the best

 

[Mr2005]

I see the topics changed somewhat. At the risk of losing any and all sympathy who are we to say if someones problems trivial or not? Someone who's been there. Someone older is going to have a better understanding of someone younger than the other way round.

 

[purplemoon]

The person (possible scammer?) in question had PM'd me offering to sell N and pb, which I politely declined as I indicated I am too afraid of doing anything illegal, ever. Noooooo.... never, never, never..

At which point this person made fun of me a bit, it was not nice.



Now I'm going to be more paranoid on here of who I trust.

Heartless predators make me sad, then mad.

If I see any more fake 'drug dealers'.... I will possibly report them to the real police...
and end their creepy careers of scamming innocent, vulnerable people.

 

[MeltingHeart]

@fightingsioux
Rachel and the other poster started out respectful, as you quoted, but then started to mock him by saying thing like "I'll get the popcorn". Mocking a person I will call extremely disrespectful. And them wouldn't stop. Perhaps you and they and others do not agree with him and his situation, but to resort to mockery just plain sucks. Perhaps you and I disagree on what is disrespectful.

wasnt the 'our get the popcorn' just a general repsonse to the whole thread escalating & all the back &forths & the drama-not sure that was aimed as an offensive remark at one specific person...and both in the thread were getting quite heated and being ott-i think some people were just a bit taken aback as to what was going on!

But that's exactly what I'm saying: feeling hopeless and being in a situation that is hopeless are two different things.
"Let everything happen to you
Beauty and terror
Just keep going
No feeling is final"

― Rainer Maria Rilke

I notice all the younger folk are jumping on the fact you mentioned his age- rather than the unquestionably jaw dropping fact-that it seemed to be down to the fact he was banned from a forum- which is quite a suprising reason. And I would have thought that many people can understand that in those cases-people may question it- and try and give and get them to have some perspective, think of the bigger picture, maybe even offer a little hope for the future...and this is where age quite simple is a factor...as you just DO have extra years to try things again, correct yr mistakes, try other things out...as you get older there is quite literally less time to do so...basically I totally get what yr saying and agree.

 

[CrushedHopes]

I notice all the younger folk are jumping on the fact you mentioned his age- rather than the unquestionably jaw dropping fact-that it seemed to be down to the fact he was banned from a forum- which is quite a suprising reason. And I would have thought that many people can understand that in those cases-people may question it- and try and give and get them to have some perspective, think of the bigger picture, maybe even offer a little hope for the future...and this is where age quite simple is a factor...as you just DO have extra years to try things again, correct yr mistakes, try other things out...as you get older there is quite literally less time to do so...basically I totally get what yr saying and agree.

Okay, you don't seem to get this, so let me make this *very* clear to you, and I hope you get it through your head this time. What you perceive to be "fact" is absolutely and undoubtedly wrong. I shall speak for myself and I will hear no ifs, ands or buts about it. It's my choice. And yes, I have analyzed my own situation and concluded that there is no fixing it, based on my observations on what other people in that community and industry have to say about it.

So here goes:

I am not looking to CTB because I got banned from some niche forum that has no impact on my career choice. I want to CTB because my real name and face have been doxed, and I have been universally blacklisted by EVERYONE in the voice acting community and industry, which basically means that I have ZERO chance of pursuing voiceover professionally (not even on a hobbyist level, given my grave offenses). I can NEVER voice act, write scripts, direct or do anything related to that community AGAIN. Not for the rest of my life!

Now do you get it? Stop trivializing my predicament. I'm not that fragile - getting banned from a forum or two isn't gonna make me wanna off myself. Okay? Okay. Good. I hope you'll stop twisting around the facts. Thank you.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Okay, you don't seem to get this, so let me make this *very* clear to you, and I hope you get it through your head this time. What you perceive to be "fact" is absolutely and undoubtedly wrong. I shall speak for myself and I will hear no ifs, ands or buts about it. It's my choice. And yes, I have analyzed my own situation and concluded that there is no fixing it, based on my observations on what other people in that community and industry have to say about it.

So here goes:

I am not looking to CTB because I got banned from some niche forum that has no impact on my career choice. I want to CTB because my real name and face have been doxed, and I have been universally blacklisted by EVERYONE in the voice acting community and industry, which basically means that I have ZERO chance of pursuing voiceover professionally (not even on a hobbyist level, given my grave offenses). I can NEVER voice act, write scripts, direct or do anything related to that community AGAIN. Not for the rest of my life!

Now do you get it? Stop trivializing my predicament. I'm not that fragile - getting banned from a forum or two isn't gonna make me wanna off myself. Okay? Okay. Good. I hope you'll stop twisting around the facts. Thank you.

There are a few groups out there who ostracise and excommunicate people because of their actions. Sometimes the offenses are minor and the community is fanatical against that. Or, the comminity is more tolerant and the offenses were that grave. Sometimes, all it takes is a new philosophy or leadership to take hold and what was once acceptable no longer is.

I don't know any specifics. I can't make any assertions. I can only state that, yes, it is possible, especially in intenet communities, that someone can be given a scarlet letter and exiled.

 

[Stan]

JUST TO GET BACK ON TOPIC. COULD BE SCAMMERS STILL OUT THERE.
DON'T HESITATE, HIT THE REPORT BUTTON!​

 

[angie]

JUST TO GET BACK ON TOPIC. COULD BE SCAMMERS STILL OUT THERE.
DON'T HESITATE, HIT THE REPORT BUTTON!​

ok thanks

 

[trynacbt]

Lol

 

[CrushedHopes]

There are a few groups out there who ostracise and excommunicate people because of their actions. Sometimes the offenses are minor and the community is fanatical against that. Or, the comminity is more tolerant and the offenses were that grave. Sometimes, all it takes is a new philosophy or leadership to take hold and what was once acceptable no longer is.

I don't know any specifics. I can't make any assertions. I can only state that, yes, it is possible, especially in intenet communities, that someone can be given a scarlet letter and exiled.

I can tell you for a fact that I had it coming and that I had been given numerous chances to rectify my toxic behavior before I was ousted. It's all me. In this case, what I did online has also affected real life opportunities. It's all over for me.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Okay, you don't seem to get this, so let me make this *very* clear to you, and I hope you get it through your head this time. What you perceive to be "fact" is absolutely and undoubtedly wrong. I shall speak for myself and I will hear no ifs, ands or buts about it. It's my choice. And yes, I have analyzed my own situation and concluded that there is no fixing it, based on my observations on what other people in that community and industry have to say about it.

So here goes:

I am not looking to CTB because I got banned from some niche forum that has no impact on my career choice. I want to CTB because my real name and face have been doxed, and I have been universally blacklisted by EVERYONE in the voice acting community and industry, which basically means that I have ZERO chance of pursuing voiceover professionally (not even on a hobbyist level, given my grave offenses). I can NEVER voice act, write scripts, direct or do anything related to that community AGAIN. Not for the rest of my life!

Now do you get it? Stop trivializing my predicament. I'm not that fragile - getting banned from a forum or two isn't gonna make me wanna off myself. Okay? Okay. Good. I hope you'll stop twisting around the facts. Thank you.

Of course your choice is yr choice-indeed you are the not the only person that I may have mildy responded to their reason with just a slight raised eye-brow and a questioning thought about how they are feeling in the present - not because I want to cause offence, trivilise or undermine them- but just because when someone poses a dilema or a situation-alongside a method- I personally don't just instantly leap& focus on the method- and say' yeah your life is definitely totally over & yeah sounds like a great ctb plan you got there!' -sometimes it could be considered kind or helpful to just atleast offer a slightly different perspective & maybe even a little hope or just some options for that person to explore (one of those options may be to ctb-but it is not the only one) Previous to this I had chatted to someone once- and they actually said 'thankyou- your right I dont think I need to ctb just yet over this'- but they know that it is always there as an option in the future still. I get this is pro-choice- but I kind of thought that sometimes it is ok to just look at someones situation and see if maybe (and that might be a big maybe) there is another angle on it- not to dissuade them from their final choice- but just to ensure/consider if it is really their ONLY real choice now. Apologise for any offense caused. I can see your situation has caused you alot of distress- one that you are not seeking advice on-but that you just wanted to share as your reason to ctb. Thats fair enough.