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noname223

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I live in Germany. There is a current debate on new assisted suicide laws. One proposal is very restrictive. The liberal one was announced today. So far the things I read sound pretty cool. I think also mentally ill people can receive assisted suicide if this comes through. I am not sure about the costs this could be a deal breaker for me. Though when I listened to the proposal I had some hope. A hope that I can escape my nightmarish torture without risking to become a vegetable. I could imagine some people read forums like this one to hear stories of affected people. I am not sure how likely that is. I can say to all people who fight for liberal assisted suicide laws I owe you my deepest gratitude. The guy who made this possible was Prof. Dr. Andreas VoĂźkuhle. The former highest judge at the German constitutional court. The lobby against the right to die peacefully is so strong. The media, the churches and conservatives are so powerful. Though surveys show the German people wants liberal assisted suicide laws.

I think stories like mine are extremely tragic and should not happen. But this is life not everyone can have an happy end. Though the story would be even way worse if I ended a vegetable or with brain injury after an attempt. And many many people in this world have to suffer that. There are probably many people who are too ill to share their pain. And the restricted policy on assisted suicide is responsible for that.

I was relieved when I listened to the proposal. It is not clear whether enough politicians support this one. But solely the notion this becomes true lifted an heavy weight from my shoulders. I am extremely anxious to damage myself with a suicide attempt. I hope my past psychosis don't make this way for me impossible. I mean I am now suicidal since a decade. I am ready to fight this battle but I have like everyone else my limits where the pain cannot be stomached anymore.
I think I am quite rational and self-aware more than most healthy people.

However there was a bitter feeling when I listened to it. All of that should be self-evident. The right to die peacefully should be a human right. One should not have to fight for it. There were many stories of people in extreme pain who wanted to sue for their right to obtain N. Many of them died in unimaginable pain while waiting for the answer (the conservative secretary rejected their wish eventually). Why do I have to beg for something that should be completely self-evident?

I wish I could find a way so that life was worth living for me. I don't think suicide is a good option for me. Though I think it will be the lesser of different evils for me. I have to fight for being able to die. It is a shame what the elites and the society have done to people over generations. How many had to choose extremely cruel, painful, traumatizing, violent and painful methods. Not helping these people to die is like spitting in their face or on their grave. I hope for me I will be able to receive assisted suicide. Really if this became possible a dream would become true for me. I won't take it immediately but I know there will be a time when it will inevitable. It is like a victory for justice if this law (the liberal version) becomes true. I feel sorry for all the people who did not have this opportunity.

Though I might be too euphoric. As I said the anti-assisted suicide lobby is extremely powerful. Especially in the German media you barely read liberal views on this topic. I would even pray for that to come true. Maybe the effect would be counterproductive. Lol. I hope very much this liberal version becomes true. The final decision will be this summer. It will be pretty thrilling. The German government does a very mediocre job in general. Though my two main wishes a reform of the welfare system and liberal assited suicide laws could become true. Both not in the the perfect version but way better than what past governments delivered.
 
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Davey36000

Davey36000

I'm not the dog in the picture
Jun 12, 2023
335
Some guy I read had attempted at least twice and failed (the second time he lit himself on fire with gasoline). Ended in the hospital full of burns, constantly crying.
What is the point of making people go through painful means which may fail and leave you worse?
Just because of some entitled people who keep peaceful and painless methods hard to obtain.
 
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Sweet Tart

Sweet Tart

Mage
May 10, 2023
526
Thank you for sharing the legal and social perspectives being debated in Germany. I was not aware of public discussion on assisted suicide there, and I'm really interested to hear what comes next. It's good to hear that there is a public voice for people who support assisted suicide, tho the opposition sounds quite powerful.
 
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blacktulip44

blacktulip44

lost and broken
Jun 5, 2023
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Some guy I read had attempted at least twice and failed (the second time he lit himself on fire with gasoline). Ended in the hospital full of burns, constantly crying.
What is the point of making people go through painful means which may fail and leave you worse?
Just because of some entitled people who keep peaceful and painless methods hard to obtain.
this sounds like the most horrible outcome possible, holy shit. i cannot imagine how miserable this person must have felt when he first woke up at the hospital, in pain and alive.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
48,051
It's really disgusting how assisted suicide isn't legalised, it just shows a lack of compassion towards the suffering experienced in this world. It's like many people forget we are all going to die anyway, do they really want the option of either dying a slow painful death from a disease, or attempting a risky and brutal suicide method. It's absurd and inhumane to be against assisted suicide, humans deserve the option to take control over their inevitable fate in peace, it should be a human right to have the option to die peacefully.
 
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Aisley

Aisley

Wizard
Mar 12, 2023
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I really think the developed world is heading this way, slowly, gradually. Never on time, never fast enough for the people who need it right now, but it is coming.
Tragic but innate part of all this, is that those who would fight for it can't, for fear of being locked up, or just generally stygmatized, or imobilized by physical and mental ailments. But I think we're getting somewhere.
 
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