UK police welfare check

[avidreader49]

I'm in the UK and just had a police welfare check after ordering SN just to let people know

 

[divinemistress36]

This is getting suspicious all coming from new accounts

 

[Redleaf1992]

This is getting suspicious all coming from new accounts

It does kinda make sense that they would get welfare checks first, as they would more likely to be ones who recently ordered. But deffo fishy.

 

[avidreader49]

Ring doorbell footage… just want to know if they will now refer to mental health services?

 

[Redleaf1992]

What did they say to you?

 

[CravingPeace]

Ring doorbell footage… just want to know if they will now refer to mental health services?

awww shit

 

[avidreader49]

What did they say to you?

They said they just have to check I'm ok, I said I was and they left pretty quickly to be honest. Just scared now that they'll refer me to mental health services.

 

[depressedinsomniac]

thank you for sharing. is there anything else going on that may have caused the visit? Did they say why they stopped by?

 

[avidreader49]

Well if they take a look at my records that may have flagged things due to being diagnosed with depression recently. They said a parcel had been flagged at customs and they have to visit based on what was ordered

 

[Redleaf1992]

They said they just have to check I'm ok, I said I was and they left pretty quickly to be honest. Just scared now that they'll refer me to mental health services.

I would be really surprised if they did, considering they didn't do anything. Seems like they just wanted to tick their to do list of.

I think they would have informed you, if they referred you on.

 

[avidreader49]

Okay thank you, that reassures me.

 

[miyabi]

They said they just have to check I'm ok, I said I was and they left pretty quickly to be honest. Just scared now that they'll refer me to mental health services.

Do they have your details? Sounds obvious but you might have used an alias. Are you known to mental health services already?

 

[beeptad]

Do you mind sharing whether or not you ordered from DMC and what payment method you used?

 

[avidreader49]

Do they have your details? Sounds obvious but you might have used an alias. Are you known to mental health services already?

Yeah they have my details I used my name, and yes I'm already known to MH

Do you mind sharing whether or not you ordered from DMC and what payment method you used?

Yeah ordered from DMC and paid using wise

 

[PrismHon]

Well if they take a look at my records that may have flagged things due to being diagnosed with depression recently. They said a parcel had been flagged at customs and they have to visit based on what was ordered

May I ask when you ordered? And when you received it? If something was flagged at customs, how/why did it even leave customs?

 

[avidreader49]

I ordered about 2 weeks ago but on the old site so that delayed my order as DMC lost my address. I received it last Friday. I literally have no idea how it works, they even said it's not illegal to have or order but when individuals order it they have to follow it up

 

[betternever2havbeen]

@avidreader49 did they not try and take the SN? Sorry this happened, police at the door is not a nice thing to have to deal with

 

[avidreader49]

I said that I thought the package was lost in the mail as it hadn't arrived and they didn't question that or ask to search anywhere

 

[miyabi]

Yeah they have my details I used my name, and yes I'm already known to MH

Yeah ordered from DMC and paid using wise

They don't need to make you aware for a referral so it isn't impossible. You'll know if they did if in the coming days if anyone from the NHS reaches out to you.

As far as I'm aware there should be nothing further, but since SN is picking up hot press in the media right now I would expect there's going to be an agreement for sharing with MH specialists etc. It would likely go on your record that you purchased it and they conducted a welfare check to cover themselves.

I wouldn't worry about it though, if you were worried about them kicking your door in.

 

[aiyuxhan]

Well if they take a look at my records that may have flagged things due to being diagnosed with depression recently. They said a parcel had been flagged at customs and they have to visit based on what was ordered

I'm not in the UK, but can you deny or say no if they try to force you into institutionalized mental health? O__o

I'm sorry if my question comes off as ignorant. I'm just not from the UK.

In the US, they have a mental health crisis team in my area, and once they are contacted, you are required to go with them

 

[avidreader49]

They don't need to make you aware for a referral so it isn't impossible. You'll know if they did if in the coming days if anyone from the NHS reaches out to you.

As far as I'm aware there should be nothing further, but since SN is picking up hot press in the media right now I would expect there's going to be an agreement for sharing with MH specialists etc. It would likely go on your record that you purchased it and they conducted a welfare check to cover themselves.

I wouldn't worry about it though, if you were worried about them kicking your door in.

Thank you. We shall see I suppose

 

[gothbird]

Just wanted to point out a few things I've noticed, in case it helps others make sense of what's been posted lately.

The accounts that first raised red flags for me were:

• avidreader49 (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-police-welfare-check.201484/)
• ignorableaurochs (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/warning-for-uk-sn-users.201470/)
• askmeifimatree (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/just-got-police-visit-for-buying-sn-from-dmc.201184/)
• sendmeawayalien (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-also-got-a-police-visit-ordered-from-dmc-months-ago.201204/)

All relatively new users, low message counts, and all posting very recently with alarmist welfare check stories. There are inconsistencies between them, odd overlaps in timing, and a general tone that seems more focused on sparking fear than offering usable information. Some of it just doesn't line up but that could be the conspiracy theorist in me.

That said, I've kept an eye on spenshart (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/the-sn-wellness-checks-are-fucking-real.201303)
and nameeater (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/dmc-sn-possible-welfare-check-uk.193254/), and they are more credible. Spenshart's posts read as sincere and consistent. And nameeater has been around for years, always clear in what they share. If anything, their voice lends weight to the possibility that some checks may be happening but not in the widespread, coordinated way these newer accounts are suggesting.

So, yes, it's always smart to be cautious, especially in the UK right now. But I wouldn't take every post at face value. Panic spreads fast, especially when people are already vulnerable. And some of these accounts feel manufactured, or at the very least, like they're running on second hand fear.

I'm not trying to be accusatory. People might be telling the truth, or they might not. But it's important to use media literacy here. Look at patterns. Look at timing. Look at language. Fear spreads easily, especially with prolifers and people who think SaSu is a terrible place. Not every post is made in good faith, and not everyone here is who they say they are, I'm sure.

Owning SN isn't illegal. The police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause. Don't let scare posts push you into rushed decisions. This might help you if you're worried about how to explain having SN.

 

[miyabi]

I'm not in the UK, but can you deny or say no if they try to force you into institutionalized mental health? O__o

I'm sorry if my question comes off as ignorant. I'm just not from the UK.

In the US, they have a mental health crisis team in my area, and once they are contacted, you are required to go with them

They can, but police powers are limited due to poor funding for law enforcement and healthcare in this country. They can remove you to a hospital for an assessment for 24 hours whereby healthcare professionals can authorise a longer stay. But I've found that healthcare professionals didn't even believe me when I told them the truth, so ymmv but I think it would be laughably easy to go 'I'm fine' and get cleared by the dr. There isn't enough funding on either side.

Thank you. We shall see I suppose

I get that it's scary to have the police at your door, but at the end of the day, you haven't committed a crime. I'm not entirely clued up on this whole situation about DMC going bust since I got my SN a long time ago, but if law enforcement are onto him you're obviously the victim in this situation and not the person in trouble.

Just wanted to point out a few things I've noticed, in case it helps others make sense of what's been posted lately.

The accounts that first raised red flags for me were:

• avidreader49 (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-police-welfare-check.201484/)
• ignorableaurochs (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/warning-for-uk-sn-users.201470/)
• askmeifimatree (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/just-got-police-visit-for-buying-sn-from-dmc.201184/)
• sendmeawayalien (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-also-got-a-police-visit-ordered-from-dmc-months-ago.201204/)

All relatively new users, low message counts, and all posting very recently with alarmist welfare check stories. There are inconsistencies between them, odd overlaps in timing, and a general tone that seems more focused on sparking fear than offering usable information. Some of it just doesn't line up but that could be the conspiracy theorist in me.

That said, I've kept an eye on spenshart (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/the-sn-wellness-checks-are-fucking-real.201303)
and nameeater (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/dmc-sn-possible-welfare-check-uk.193254/), and they are more credible. Spenshart's posts read as sincere and consistent. And nameeater has been around for years, always clear in what they share. If anything, their voice lends weight to the possibility that some checks may be happening but not in the widespread, coordinated way these newer accounts are suggesting.

So, yes, it's always smart to be cautious, especially in the UK right now. But I wouldn't take every post at face value. Panic spreads fast, especially when people are already vulnerable. And some of these accounts feel manufactured, or at the very least, like they're running on second hand fear.

I'm not trying to be accusatory. People might be telling the truth, or they might not. But it's important to use media literacy here. Look at patterns. Look at timing. Look at language. Fear spreads easily, especially with prolifers and people who think SaSu is a terrible place. Not every post is made in good faith, and not everyone here is who they say they are, I'm sure.

Owning SN isn't illegal. The police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause. Don't let scare posts push you into rushed decisions. This might help you if you're worried about how to explain having SN.

Interesting points raised. Nitpicking, but the last part sounds very American. No such thing as probable cause in the UK, and there are about a million different powers police can use to enter your home at will lawfully. If there is an imminent risk to life, the door is coming in. Not applicable for general welfare checks though.

 

[gothbird]

Interesting points raised. Nitpicking, but the last part sounds very American. No such thing as probable cause in the UK, and there are about a million different powers police can use to enter your home at will lawfully. If there is an imminent risk to life, the door is coming in. Not applicable for general welfare checks though.

I'm not from the UK, I'm in New Zealand, so my legal lingo skews more general. I suppose 'reasonable grounds' is more correct if we wanna get nitpicky re: location, as that's what it is here so I'm assuming the UK is the same.

That said, as you mentioned, general welfare checks don't usually meet the threshold for forced entry unless there's a clear, imminent risk to life. If someone answers the door, appears coherent, and doesn't give cause for concern, they typically move on.
It's definitely not as simple as "they have no right," but also not as open door as some panic posts imply. That's why I've mentioned having some legitimate reasons to have SN.

 

[aiyuxhan]

They can, but police powers are limited due to poor funding for law enforcement and healthcare in this country. They can remove you to a hospital for an assessment for 24 hours whereby healthcare professionals can authorise a longer stay. But I've found that healthcare professionals didn't even believe me when I told them the truth, so ymmv but I think it would be laughably easy to go 'I'm fine' and get cleared by the dr. There isn't enough funding on either side.

I get that it's scary to have the police at your door, but at the end of the day, you haven't committed a crime. I'm not entirely clued up on this whole situation about DMC going bust since I got my SN a long time ago, but if law enforcement are onto him you're obviously the victim in this situation and not the person in trouble.

Interesting points raised. Nitpicking, but the last part sounds very American. No such thing as probable cause in the UK, and there are about a million different powers police can use to enter your home at will lawfully. If there is an imminent risk to life, the door is coming in. Not applicable for general welfare checks though.

Ah I see! That makes sense. Thanks for explaining to me

 

[axab43]

Just wanted to point out a few things I've noticed, in case it helps others make sense of what's been posted lately.

The accounts that first raised red flags for me were:

• avidreader49 (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-police-welfare-check.201484/)
• ignorableaurochs (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/warning-for-uk-sn-users.201470/)
• askmeifimatree (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/just-got-police-visit-for-buying-sn-from-dmc.201184/)
• sendmeawayalien (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-also-got-a-police-visit-ordered-from-dmc-months-ago.201204/)

All relatively new users, low message counts, and all posting very recently with alarmist welfare check stories. There are inconsistencies between them, odd overlaps in timing, and a general tone that seems more focused on sparking fear than offering usable information. Some of it just doesn't line up but that could be the conspiracy theorist in me.

That said, I've kept an eye on spenshart (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/the-sn-wellness-checks-are-fucking-real.201303)
and nameeater (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/dmc-sn-possible-welfare-check-uk.193254/), and they are more credible. Spenshart's posts read as sincere and consistent. And nameeater has been around for years, always clear in what they share. If anything, their voice lends weight to the possibility that some checks may be happening but not in the widespread,Yes, coordinated way these newer accounts are suggesting.

So, yes, it's always smart to be cautious, especially in the UK right now. But I wouldn't take every post at face value. Panic spreads fast, especially when people are already vulnerable. And some of these accounts feel manufactured, or at the very least, like they're running on second hand fear.

I'm not trying to be accusatory. People might be telling the truth, or they might not. But it's important to use media literacy here. Look at patterns. Look at timing. Look at language. Fear spreads easily, especially with prolifers and people who think SaSu is a terrible place. Not every post is made in good faith, and not everyone here is who they say they are, I'm sure.

Owning SN isn't illegal. The police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause. Don't let scare posts push you into rushed decisions. This might help you if you're worried about how to explain having SN.

Yes, exactly. You said exactly what I was thinking. Thank you!

 

[WatchmeBurn]

I ordered about 2 weeks ago but on the old site so that delayed my order as DMC lost my address. I received it last Friday. I literally have no idea how it works, they even said it's not illegal to have or order but when individuals order it they have to follow it up

This is what I suspected. They can't force entry unless you're literally telling them you're going to kill yourself or something.

 

[JayJay]

Just wanted to point out a few things I've noticed, in case it helps others make sense of what's been posted lately.

The accounts that first raised red flags for me were:

• avidreader49 (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-police-welfare-check.201484/)
• ignorableaurochs (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/warning-for-uk-sn-users.201470/)
• askmeifimatree (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/just-got-police-visit-for-buying-sn-from-dmc.201184/)
• sendmeawayalien (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/uk-also-got-a-police-visit-ordered-from-dmc-months-ago.201204/)

All relatively new users, low message counts, and all posting very recently with alarmist welfare check stories. There are inconsistencies between them, odd overlaps in timing, and a general tone that seems more focused on sparking fear than offering usable information. Some of it just doesn't line up but that could be the conspiracy theorist in me.

That said, I've kept an eye on spenshart (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/the-sn-wellness-checks-are-fucking-real.201303)
and nameeater (https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/dmc-sn-possible-welfare-check-uk.193254/), and they are more credible. Spenshart's posts read as sincere and consistent. And nameeater has been around for years, always clear in what they share. If anything, their voice lends weight to the possibility that some checks may be happening but not in the widespread, coordinated way these newer accounts are suggesting.

So, yes, it's always smart to be cautious, especially in the UK right now. But I wouldn't take every post at face value. Panic spreads fast, especially when people are already vulnerable. And some of these accounts feel manufactured, or at the very least, like they're running on second hand fear.

I'm not trying to be accusatory. People might be telling the truth, or they might not. But it's important to use media literacy here. Look at patterns. Look at timing. Look at language. Fear spreads easily, especially with prolifers and people who think SaSu is a terrible place. Not every post is made in good faith, and not everyone here is who they say they are, I'm sure.

Owning SN isn't illegal. The police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause. Don't let scare posts push you into rushed decisions. This might help you if you're worried about how to explain having SN.

Yea this really seemed fishy. I highly doubt anyone would care if I bought SN.

But here's the catch—some states and new laws are clamping down hard because it's been linked to unaliving. High-purity sodium nitrite (over 10% concentration) is getting flagged as a "banned hazardous product" under bills like the Youth Poisoning Protection Act (passed the House in 2024, still pending Senate as of now). California's Tyler's Law (AB 1109, 2023) bans selling it to anyone under 18 and limits concentrations above 10% to adults with verified need—think commercial licenses. Colorado followed suit in 2024, restricting sales of high-concentration stuff to businesses, with fines up to $1 million for screwing up. So if you don't live in Colorado or California you should be fine.

 

[Jimmy.]

Yeah they have my details I used my name, and yes I'm already known to MH

Is that a good thing? You know they won't be able to do anything?

From my experience that's more of a concern to people who have no experience with the MH "service".

 

[intothec]

I'm in the UK and just had a police welfare check after ordering SN just to let people know

How do you think they knew what was inside package it to flag it up? Does it look dodgy?
Surprised they didn't know it had arrived already if it's tracked?
I don't get what the point is as they can't watch people 24/7 so would need to catch you in the lie or something or in process of using ?