Discussion The SN wellness checks are fucking real

[beeptad]

Cant believe this, was planning to order in a few days. If only id found SaSu sooner I could got this over and done with sooner. I'm holding out hope that it was a payment method / the website that got compromised, not DMC himself. Gonna ask if he takes crypto (hopefully monero because bitcoin is traceable).

 

[Corvette90]

And this is the UK now. Demonise in msm anyone with mental health problems, remove all benefits from them so they have no income even though they're too ill to work, reduce the money to mental health services that already has waiting lists of up to two years, then hound us and terrorise us to remove our only way out so we can suffer for longer until we eventually starve to death (not exaggerating, people have already starved to death when benefits were withdrawn when they shouldn't have been and the person was too ill to do anything about it).

You are so correct! It's unbelievable torture. Every "peaceful" method is getting harder and harder. And yes I myself have to wait till September for any mental health help. I'm a grown person I should have the right to check out of this hell if I want.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

I know the first person to post paid with Neteller. It makes me think that Wise might be susceptible as well. They are both international payment methods. I'm not sure what payment methods others who have been visited used, but it would be interesting to find out.

Perhaps using Bitcoin would be better. Just like SaSu accepts for donations.

 

[Wilt-On-High]

I can't believe this!
So I fucked up with my SN that I already have.
Now If I try to order a new one then I'll get Welfare Checked????
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US????
IM ALREADY IN DEEP SHIT NOW IM FUCKED
I can't believe this!
So I fucked up with my SN that I already have.
Now If I try to order a new one then I'll get Welfare Checked????
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US????
IM ALREADY IN DEEP SHIT NOW IM FUCKED

 

[Sacred Rest]

Do they do this in North America? The USA or what part of the world? I've ordered N in CAN and never got a wellness check. This was in 2021. I've heard that the UK is much stricter with all of this stuff.

 

[FrozenOcean]

Do they do this in North America? The USA or what part of the world? I've ordered N in CAN and never got a wellness check. This was in 2021. I've heard that the UK is much stricter with all of this stuff.

100%… they did it for IC when Kenneth Law got busted. Wellness checks all over US and Canada. According to what has been reported so far, interpol is involved.

 

[2messdup]

I can't believe this!
So I fucked up with my SN that I already have.
Now If I try to order a new one then I'll get Welfare Checked????
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US????
IM ALREADY IN DEEP SHIT NOW IM FUCKED
I can't believe this!
So I fucked up with my SN that I already have.
Now If I try to order a new one then I'll get Welfare Checked????
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US????
IM ALREADY IN DEEP SHIT NOW IM FUCKED

Personally I think it will settle down again slowly. I bought mine last July and no welfare check yet. On his last message to me DMC said orders from him were being watched and it seems like only new order people are being checked rn. Which I know and I'm sorry doesn't help your situation but as a group we are very resourceful so I believe this storm will blow over. I believe in the UK most times you keep your phone even if hospitalised so we'll hear if a large number of checks happen in the UK. Huge hugs to you. I understand your despair and desperation.

 

[MathConspiracy]

Omfg, I really hope the pro-lifers drown in their useless lives.

Please, anyone from Europe – have you experienced these visits or is this a UK thing?

 

[Forever Sleep]

They sound more like detectives if they were in plain clothes. I thought it was usually uniformed police that did welfare checks. I did get a call from a detective a month or two after the IC SN welfare checks. Kind of strange that they seemed to start with that in your case.

I'm sorry though, it's all pretty stressful to go through. Police went to my neighbours first too and, I was home. I thought that was a mistake originally but, maybe they do it purposefully. They were at least nice in my case.

 

[axab43]

Just out of curiosity, did DMC really have Airbnb apartments? If so, how could they know who genuinely rented the apartment and who used it as a front to pay for SN?

If it appears he did have Airbnb, who could tell the difference?

They sound more like detectives if they were in plain clothes. I thought it was usually uniformed police that did welfare checks. I did get a call from a detective a month or two after the IC SN welfare checks. Kind of strange that they seemed to start with that in your case.

I'm sorry though, it's all pretty stressful to go through. Police went to my neighbours first too and, I was home. I thought that was a mistake originally but, maybe they do it purposefully. They were at least nice in my case.

Why would police go to your neighbours first if you were home? What excuse would they give? Most neighbours don't even know each other these days so going to neighbours first sounds really questionable.

 

[FuneralCry]

It really is so cruel and horrific to me how they wish to force people to suffer no matter what and make existence into a prison where one cannot have the option to reliably escape with no more suffering, I hope you find the peace you search for, I wish you the best.

 

[user_2249]

Maybe will give clarity if people start uploading their ring footage

 

[CravingPeace]

Personally I think it will settle down again slowly. I bought mine last July and no welfare check yet. On his last message to me DMC said orders from him were being watched and it seems like only new order people are being checked rn. Which I know and I'm sorry doesn't help your situation but as a group we are very resourceful so I believe this storm will blow over. I believe in the UK most times you keep your phone even if hospitalised so we'll hear if a large number of checks happen in the UK. Huge hugs to you. I understand your despair and desperation.

When did DMC tell you this? What exactly did he say?

 

[lostintheloop]

police are very unlikely in uk to force people into hospital from their own home . Section 136 police can use at their discretion to take someone to hospital or a place of safety for up tp 24h to be assessed . BUT 136 can only be used in public places, not your own home as that can class as place of safety .

They can force you into hospital under s135 from your own home for a mental health act assessment but unlike 136 it requires a warrant . They're not going to have that warrant for a regular welfare check . 135 is a pain for services to sort so it's not going to be used just for someone ordering something potentially harmful . It's usually used when Mh services want a patient in hospital but the patient wont allow services in for MHA assessment

I've has multiple welfare checks for other reasons , police let me keep stuff that was harmful , they just informed my Mh team or crisis team.

 

[2messdup]

police are very unlikely in uk to force people into hospital from their own home . Section 136 police can use at their discretion to take someone to hospital or a place of safety for up tp 24h to be assessed . BUT 136 can only be used in public places, not your own home as that can class as place of safety .

They can force you into hospital under s135 from your own home for a mental health act assessment but unlike 136 it requires a warrant . They're not going to have that warrant for a regular welfare check . 135 is a pain for services to sort so it's not going to be used just for someone ordering something potentially harmful . It's usually used when Mh services want a patient in hospital but the patient wont allow services in for MHA assessment

I've has multiple welfare checks for other reasons , police let me keep stuff that was harmful , they just informed my Mh team or crisis team.

And anyway, where are they going to put them? No beds lol

 

[depressedinsomniac]

terrifying. makes me wonder if dmc is compromised. i suppose best case scenario is the old site provider handed over the order info that was processed.

 

[user_2249]

Hello all, i made a post already stating that i am going to ctb this week and i thought that would be my last. But after reading some posts i seen a lot of people fall under stress and confusion about these wellness checks after ordering SN.

I ordered my SN from DMC about 3.5 weeks ago. I have had it in my possession for around 1.5 weeks. I live in the UK, midlands, and i am planning on starting my 48 hour regimen tomorrow.

I myself have been quite intrigued with these stories about wellness checks by the police and didn't believe a word at first. But today 2 policemen came to my door at around 2PM, not in uniform, 1 man and 1 woman. Randomly. I, who luckily was not in, and wouldnt have answered the door anyway, saw on my ring doorbell from my phone. Im guessing they were not in uniform so that i would answer the door easier? i have no idea.

After me not answering the door, they went to my neighbour's door and had a 25 minute conversation with them. After that, they looked back at my door and talked amongst eachother, they then left in an unmarked police vehicle.

When i got home from my outings, i was curious who they were so i asked my neighbour "what was that all about? They looked quite serious." My neighbour replied to me, "funny enough they were asking me about yourself. if we knew of any suspicious behaviour, or any behaviour that would class as concerning towards your own health, or others, so whatever you are doing, just be careful."

This is a real thing guys and girls... Luckily for me they did not enter my property as i was not home and im guessing they dont have a warrant or anything like that but my SN is litterally on the side just chilling so i was terrified after reading the posts about this.

Please be cautious everyone. The police are trying it. And this will most likely be my last post so i hope to have enlightened you all on your curiosity on this matter, thank you all for your support, i need to use this shit before it gets taken off of me...

Thank you SaSu community.

Can you upload their ring footage please op

 

[Nobody'sHero]

Ooooh shit, looks like there might be a coordinated effort. HAVE NOT heard any wellness checks in the US, but this bill was considered in the US the house of representatives 4 days ago. Haven't done further research, but looks like the introduction and reports of wellness checks in the UK are no coincidence. I also read somewhere about wellness checks in Canada (NOT VERIFIED). Also, the bill only speaks about high concentrations of sodium nitrite, not the control of the salt itself, but it's not a stretch that the SN itself might become a controlled substance...

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1442/all-actions

 

[road2joy]

so on this site at least 3 people reported SN police checks already in the UK in the last 2 days. all 3 said SN from DMC

i hope this is only in the UK. and not in the USA. has anyone gotten a police check in the USA ?

remember a few years ago IC SN and the world wide police checks and the takedown of Kenneth law

and in 2022 the global police checks for Nembutal and the takedown by govs of N from D.

both D and Kenneth Law are in jail now .

same thing people here thought that others were making it up about the IC and N from D police checks.

i can't have any police or mental hospital threats . who the fuck would want to live in this hell another minute? this is utter hell.

for one thing these these pos gov fucks treat you like a criminal for wanting to escape extreme torture and could take away my escape

These pos gov freaks need to mind their own business

I write this for everyone here. Life should never feel like hell. Try and take solace in some of the beauty in the world. I was thinking about killing myself but I lived in the forest for 3 days and it reorganized my whole psyche. I was lucky and was able to live with my grandmother after police found me, but I just wanted to tell you to connect with nature. It's healing. Forget the soullessness of humanity and try and connect with the earth. Make music or try anything creatively while you're out there. Bathe in a river, etc. But really your living situation is important and it's important to think about how to make it better when you do want to live again... I've realized life is so short and death is so mysterious that it's almost always worth it to just wait it out.

 

[IsThisEverything]

Sorry to jump on this thread, but am I likely to receive a welfare check if: I ordered from DMC last year and it got seized at customs and got a welfare check, then I reordered a few months later and the parcel got through with no welfare check after. I have also moved house since then.

I'm just worried because I'm autistic and the police turning up last time really freaked me out. I don't want it to happen again and I am not confident enough to stand my ground and I can't lie.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I write this for everyone here. Life should never feel like hell. Try and take solace in some of the beauty in the world. I was thinking about killing myself but I lived in the forest for 3 days and it reorganized my whole psyche. I was lucky and was able to live with my grandmother after police found me, but I just wanted to tell you to connect with nature. It's healing. Forget the soullessness of humanity and try and connect with the earth. Make music or try anything creatively while you're out there. Bathe in a river, etc. But really your living situation is important and it's important to think about how to make it better when you do want to live again... I've realized life is so short and death is so mysterious that it's almost always worth it to just wait it out.

i do agree with when you said "life is short" . that it's so fleeting makes it have even less meaning. life is meaningless suffering.

why do i have to go see nature ? why do i have to live another minute?

Life is hell. every action and thought is a vote for what i want to be . i will never indulge in pleasurable addictions. that is a vote for pro-life . i will never be a slave a prisoner. i will never surrender to lust for pleasurable things. i will never surrender to life / existence. i will never surrender . i will win the ultimate victory. just one reason for not partaking in pleasurable addictions : it's an act of rebellion an act of resistance against this evil pro-lifer society world and life itself. a rebellion against this evil imposition imposed on me. i will never condone this evil imposition nor life /existence/ this evil world. i will kill myself also as an act of rebellion but for also many other reasons to escape hell . it will be my only rational act my ultimate victory . i have found perfection and that is non-existence forever. the only perfection is non-existence forever : no suffering no pain no problems not a slave not a prisoner. i don't want to be pro-life i want to be a suicider. I will suicide to non-existence

why do i have to go see nature ? why do i have to live another minute?

i don't have to and i don't want to . what i want is to get out of this prison hell to non-existence
as much as you love life i despise it more

 

[maniac116]

so on this site at least 3 people reported SN police checks already in the UK in the last 2 days. all 3 said SN from DMC

i hope this is only in the UK. and not in the USA. has anyone gotten a police check in the USA ?

remember a few years ago IC SN and the world wide police checks and the takedown of Kenneth law

and in 2022 the global police checks for Nembutal and the takedown by govs of N from D.

both D and Kenneth Law are in jail now .

same thing people here thought that others were making it up about the IC and N from D police checks.

i can't have any police or mental hospital threats . who the fuck would want to live in this hell another minute? this is utter hell.

for one thing these these pos gov fucks treat you like a criminal for wanting to escape extreme torture and could take away my escape

These pos gov freaks need to mind their own business

I couldn't agree more... Freedom? What is that?

 

[tpboy]

that is where i saw it

 

[cazza82]

But the difference is N is illegal to possess unlike SN which is still legal in both US and UK.so I am not sure if they can even forcefully confesticate SN as it legal to own it.

They can't they came to my home I pulled it out cos I knew they couldn't take it and they didn't

 

[road2joy]

i do agree with when you said "life is short" . that it's so fleeting makes it have even less meaning. life is meaningless suffering.

why do i have to go see nature ? why do i have to live another minute?

Life is hell. every action and thought is a vote for what i want to be . i will never indulge in pleasurable addictions. that is a vote for pro-life . i will never be a slave a prisoner. i will never surrender to lust for pleasurable things. i will never surrender to life / existence. i will never surrender . i will win the ultimate victory. just one reason for not partaking in pleasurable addictions : it's an act of rebellion an act of resistance against this evil pro-lifer society world and life itself. a rebellion against this evil imposition imposed on me. i will never condone this evil imposition nor life /existence/ this evil world. i will kill myself also as an act of rebellion but for also many other reasons to escape hell . it will be my only rational act my ultimate victory . i have found perfection and that is non-existence forever. the only perfection is non-existence forever : no suffering no pain no problems not a slave not a prisoner. i don't want to be pro-life i want to be a suicider. I will suicide to non-existence

why do i have to go see nature ? why do i have to live another minute?

i don't have to and i don't want to . what i want is to get out of this prison hell to non-existence
as much as you love life i despise it more

The issue for me and the reason I want to kill myself is finances… I am apparently in the 'prodromal phase' of schizophrenia, and I struggle to manage money or keep a job for more than a month. But I'm still trying. I do have hope for the future, though it's hard to hold onto sometimes.

It's true… I do love life. I'm 5'5, ugly, effeminate, hated by everyone, jobless, 40k in debt, but I still know that there is magic to be explored and eventually, if I get well, maybe people to share it with.

I wish I could live it more and with better people. I feel eternally surrounded by assholes.

But forget people… There is magic in this world without them. When two notes come together to make a chord, that's magic. When two ingredients come together to create a flavor, that's magic. When two people come together and share a feeling, that's magic. Life is about creativity, resilience, and helping each other.

Purpose is even more important… Before you die, I think it's important you at least created something meaningful to leave behind.

 

[2messdup]

haha

police are very unlikely in uk to force people into hospital from their own home . Section 136 police can use at their discretion to take someone to hospital or a place of safety for up tp 24h to be assessed . BUT 136 can only be used in public places, not your own home as that can class as place of safety .

They can force you into hospital under s135 from your own home for a mental health act assessment but unlike 136 it requires a warrant . They're not going to have that warrant for a regular welfare check . 135 is a pain for services to sort so it's not going to be used just for someone ordering something potentially harmful . It's usually used when Mh services want a patient in hospital but the patient wont allow services in for MHA assessment

I've has multiple welfare checks for other reasons , police let me keep stuff that was harmful , they just informed my Mh team or crisis team.

go

Can you upload their ring footage please op

I see you joined in March 2025

 

[ForeverCaHa]

I asked my crisis team today if wellness checks were happening, but they had no clue. I figure it's out of their responsibility anyway, but maybe some of the will have gossip in future!

 

[2messdup]

I asked my crisis team today if wellness checks were happening, but they had no clue. I figure it's out of their responsibility anyway, but maybe some of the will have gossip in future!

Would they tell you even if they knew?

 

[Sacred Rest]

100%… they did it for IC when Kenneth Law got busted. Wellness checks all over US and Canada. According to what has been reported so far, interpol is involved.

What does IC stand for? Sorry, I'm not in the know. I am familiar with the Ken Law case, however.

 

[FrozenOcean]

What does IC stand for? Sorry, I'm not in the know. I am familiar with the Ken Law case, however.

IC was the online store front that Law was involved with.