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Anuk

Anuk

Kundalini ruined my life
Mar 27, 2023
409
Drugs, moving, travel, cutting off people, anything. CTB should be your last option. I personally found huge success trying certain substances to treat my condition and its working pretty well, lowered my pain and suicidal thoughts. I would suggest you do the same, try EVERYTHING this world has to offer before CTB'ing. Don't be afraid to try stuff because CTB is something you can not come back from while these stuff that I mentioned are always temporary.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Just waiting for the bus...shouldn't take long
Jun 5, 2023
1,414
I appreciate the sentiment of the message here but why would you even advise drugs to begin with, that's absolutely irresponsible and many of those other options require financial leverage to be able to pull off like moving or traveling especially in these economically challenging times. I don't know how EVERYTHING is to supposed to accessible since we don't have access to many things this world has to offer in equal parts. Just because it worked out for you, doesn't mean it will for everyone else but everyone can try everything they possibly can within their ability before considering ctb.
 
Anuk

Anuk

Kundalini ruined my life
Mar 27, 2023
409
I appreciate the sentiment of the message here but why would you even advise drugs to begin with, that's absolutely irresponsible and many of those other options require financial leverage to be able to pull off like moving or traveling especially in these economically challenging times. I don't know how EVERYTHING is to supposed to accessible since we don't have access to many things this world has to offer in equal parts. Just because it worked out for you, doesn't mean it will for everyone else.
I was thinking drugs like magic mushrooms, kratom or ketamine stuff that has been shown to treat suicidal thoughts. I know it's not good advice but suicide is really worse than trying stuff like this.
 
@siniy_cat

@siniy_cat

Member
Nov 19, 2023
7
Not being able to reverse a suicide could be an argument for it though. At least you are not going it to regret it, while if you are taking drugs you might fuck your brain even more, so you are at an even worse state after that, but might have lost the willpower to CTB by then.
In most cases I would agree with you though, because for most people, even if they have suicidal ideation it never becomes concrete enough to actually commit to it. So their options realistically speaking don't even include suicide.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Just waiting for the bus...shouldn't take long
Jun 5, 2023
1,414
I know it's not good advice but suicide is really worse than trying stuff like this.
You recognize it's not good advice but still see it as a viable alternative to ctb, like I said, I understand your sentiment but it isn't feasible for most people otherwise we would've all done it by now.
 
tiger b

tiger b

Eternity is not a sunrise
Oct 24, 2023
931
I get the spirit of what you are saying - you tried Kundalini, for instance (would like to talk to you about that one day) and I self-hypnotised myself to infinity and back - and I will try a few more things yet. But some people view it differently than others, and they view everything but one as temporary. And some people are in too much pain to seek many methods, which might prolong the torture in their lives.

Moving and starting again is something I've done, for instance, and I'm surprised more people don't consider that. But that surprise is just based on my own lack of understanding of others.
 
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Photographer Fizzle

Member
Nov 18, 2023
36
Drugs, moving, travel, cutting off people, anything. CTB should be your last option. I personally found huge success trying certain substances to treat my condition and its working pretty well, lowered my pain and suicidal thoughts. I would suggest you do the same, try EVERYTHING this world has to offer before CTB'ing. Don't be afraid to try stuff because CTB is something you can not come back from while these stuff that I mentioned are always temporary.
Those are decent suggestions, but they would not work for everyone.
I would move tomorrow.
Hell, I would move yesterday if I had the means. For so many of us, suicide is financially motivated.
A psych nursee asked me two weeks ago whether I was likely to commit suicide. I told him I probably woulxn't because "My last thought would likely be of regret." I know how I think -- or "overthink." That's almost unavoidable.
But for me, I just need to finally make peace with having made a lot of poor decisions in the past and accepting suicide would be the best possible decision of my life.
I know I'd rather live, but I'm no heir to anything (not even affection) and I can't keep hoping to win the lottery. Some of us are just beyond help.
 
kunikuzushi

kunikuzushi

sause
Jan 24, 2023
113
I was thinking drugs like magic mushrooms, kratom or ketamine stuff that has been shown to treat suicidal thoughts. I know it's not good advice but suicide is really worse than trying stuff like this.
How is suicide worse than living and using drugs to cope with this hellish life?
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
3,739
For so many of us, suicide is financially motivated.
I agree with that bc it's my major reason to consider suicide.

OP, drugs as well as prescribed meds may help in some cases and not in others that's trial and error but imo if someone is deeply depressed or suffers from MH issues drugs can make it really much worse than it already is.

But yeah I get your point here, live your life as long as it is possible and when you have the means to do so. life can be fucked up so easily and from this point of view I'm so glad that I really lived my life for most of the time. Imo this makes it "easier" to consider suicide but it's still not that easy ...
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

She wished that she never existed...
Sep 24, 2020
30,421
Sorry but other people’s personal decisions are nothing to do with you. Just because you see death as the worst thing ever doesn’t mean this view applies to everyone else. And anyway people come to the suicide discussion section to escape from this kind of pro-life preaching, it’s not your place to tell other people what they should do as they simply aren’t you.
 
hermestrimegistus

hermestrimegistus

Experienced
Sep 16, 2023
251
I get what you're saying but mushrooms are not for everyone. I loved them. But for other people it potentially opens a door to an even more miserable existence because it can trigger certain predisposed mental issues. Also, it's not like you can just try anything you want because you want to. Like someone else pointed out, there's a lack of finances that could get in the way. For me it's more of a physical and mental roadblock. I'd love to try a few things but I am not able to. Even if I want to. But the idea is sound. Like if you're going to CTB anyway you probably should take a chance and go after things because there's nothing to lose
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
5,471
I think- sure- if you still have any motivation towards living- it's worth a shot. I guess I'm curious though- did you ever feel like you had completely lost hope or the desire for a better life? I'd say some people here aren't even interested in their best case scenario anymore. Maybe it is because of depression- that could perhaps lift if they tried different things. But still- they probably need some hope and desire for life to put in the effort to try those things.

I'm not advocating for suicide for anyone. I think it's an intensely personal decision. Still- in terms of just the physicality of it, (maybe this hinges on whether you believe in an afterlife but) I do find this line of thought curious. Do you think it's possible to regret your suicide once you are dead? Do you think whatever we become minus our bodies will be looking back thinking- damn- I wish I'd tried LSD?

I just find this line of thought perplexing because it relies on living and chance really. Maybe all that stuff or some of it might help people here. And I'd say- definitely- if people aren't sure- why not try and improve their situations and see what happens? I guess it's more the people who don't want to do all this stuff. That insistance that they still must when actually- it's a personal decision. Personally, I also think you need to be open to the idea of recovery/ therapy for it to really be effective. I'm not sure it's something you can fake. Maybe drugs are different but personally, I don't like the idea of drugs. That's just me though- I don't mind what other people choose to do.