Today is the day [CTB SN]

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Удачного пути :)

 

[sinpiel]

серце кров'ю обливається за тебе.. але я у тому ж човні, бо немає іншого виходу.. чому ми повинні так страждати щоб не мати ніяких інших варіантів, крім як піти у якийсь болючий і не мирний спосіб, а все через те що у нас заборонена евтаназія, страждай скільки влізе, головне - "живи"..

 

[Living sucks]

I dont know what @Paull wrote but OP posted 2 days ago saying he was going to ctb in 2 days. He was serious obviously but i think it's just getting harder to distinguish the truly serious from those looking for help or those planning for future. OP was new and obviously found a connection with @Paull to message him instead of continuing to post. Every story is heartbreaking and everyone here is fragile. I hope he found peace if indeed he took the SN. I hope paull doesn't now feel responsible for OPs actions and ctb himself. With that I hope OP is in a better place and that Paull will seek help if needed. It can take a day or two to really sink in and mess you up.

 

[faust]

Желаю вам всего доброго на вашем пути! Пусть мир и любовь наполнит вашу душу, а боль растворится в тумане повседневности!

 

[one4all]

I dont know what @Paull wrote but OP posted 2 days ago saying he was going to ctb in 2 days. He was serious obviously but i think it's just getting harder to distinguish the truly serious from those looking for help or those planning for future. OP was new and obviously found a connection with @Paull to message him instead of continuing to post. Every story is heartbreaking and everyone here is fragile. I hope he found peace if indeed he took the SN. I hope paull doesn't now feel responsible for OPs actions and ctb himself. With that I hope OP is in a better place and that Paull will seek help if needed. It can take a day or two to really sink in and mess you up.

It was a very quick bond between to OP and @Paull. Paull joined the day before the OP did.
For all i know they may have known each other from outside this place.

 

[Erase.myself]

I hope he found peace and comfort on the other side.

 

[Sensei]

I dont know what @Paull wrote but OP posted 2 days ago saying he was going to ctb in 2 days. He was serious obviously but i think it's just getting harder to distinguish the truly serious from those looking for help or those planning for future. OP was new and obviously found a connection with @Paull to message him instead of continuing to post. Every story is heartbreaking and everyone here is fragile. I hope he found peace if indeed he took the SN. I hope paull doesn't now feel responsible for OPs actions and ctb himself. With that I hope OP is in a better place and that Paull will seek help if needed. It can take a day or two to really sink in and mess you up.

I don't think that @Paull meant any harm and I think that @Гyyy would have committed suicide regardless, if that is what really happened. Still, this can't go uncommented on. It's my firm belief that everyone who is adult and in their right mind should have the right to die by their own hand and without being condemned. However, this right must be treated with respect, just like any other right. We are dealing with human lives and irrevocable decisions here, and we must show that we are mature enough to do that. It's a crime to encourage someone to commit suicide in many countries and we give the enemies of this community fuel for their fire if we allow that.

 

[Jojo rabbit]

What do you think was hell for him? The taste or the pain or the nausea?

In my opinion, it seemed obvious from the deleted post th

I don't think that @Paull meant any harm and I think that @Гyyy would have committed suicide regardless, if that is what really happened. Still, this can't go uncommented on. It's my firm belief that everyone who is adult and in their right mind should have the right to die by their own hand and without being condemned. However, this right must be treated with respect, just like any other right. We are dealing with human lives and irrevocable decisions here, and we must show that we are mature enough to do that. It's a crime to encourage someone to commit suicide in many countries and we give the enemies of this community fuel for their fire if we allow that.

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.

In my opinion, it seemed obvious from the deleted post th

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.

In my opinion, it seemed obvious from the deleted post th

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.

In my opinion, it seemed obvious from the deleted post th

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.

In my opinion, it seemed obvious from the deleted post th

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.



For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.


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For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. Apart from that post, I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected. PS. In my opinion, it was the taste he was alluding to when he referred to it being hell.

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[Sensei]

For the record, I saw what @Paull posted and I firmly believe he was not encouraging me him. Obviously there is more to the story between them it is wrong to make assumptions about intentions. I was naive when I arrived here, I'm sure it has happened to many about how you are to deal with such traumatizing subject matter off the start. I also agree that anyone that is here for the wrong reasons is bordering on being a sociopath. This is a deeply personal and private matter and should be deeply respected.

I don't think that @Paull really encouraged him either, but for an outsider who doesn't understand the complex psychological mechanisms of this community, it would certainly appear to be encouragement.

I know that at least one of the active members of this forum is a sociopath, but they are careful not to break the rules. Not a big problem in most other communtiies, but a potentially big one here.

 

[Jojo rabbit]

I don't think that @Paull really encouraged him either, but for an outsider who doesn't understand the complex psychological mechanisms of this community, it would certainly appear to be encouragement.

I know that at least one of the active members of this forum is a sociopath, but they are careful not to break the rules. Not a big problem in most other communtiies, but a potentially big one here.

I completely agree with you.

 

[Living sucks]

I don't think that @Paull meant any harm and I think that @Гyyy would have committed suicide regardless, if that is what really happened. Still, this can't go uncommented on. It's my firm belief that everyone who is adult and in their right mind should have the right to die by their own hand and without being condemned. However, this right must be treated with respect, just like any other right. We are dealing with human lives and irrevocable decisions here, and we must show that we are mature enough to do that. It's a crime to encourage someone to commit suicide in many countries and we give the enemies of this community fuel for their fire if we allow that.

Post was deleted so most of us don't even know what was said. @Paull sounded distressed to me about OPs pain. In a post 3 hours prior OP didn't even have SN and was expecting it to arrive. He acted very quickly upon receipt doing a very abbreviated stat regime and within 3 hours was posting his goodbye. If he was a fake i think he would have kept posting and not pmd. I don't think anything anyone could have said for or against was changing OPs mind unfortunately. I'm glad whatever message was deleted. OP was clearly intent on succeeding long before messaging Paull. I'm prochoice and facing my own horrific decision that is put before me not by choice, I'm gently trying to avoid any impulsive decisions by other member involved. Being suicidal and then feeling responsible for a ctb could lead to unplanned ctb.
Again i can only respond based on messages seen now so I could be very out of line and if that's he case forgive me. I hope the message I'm trying to convey is understood as I'm not great with words.

 

[Jojo rabbit]

Post was deleted so most of us don't even know what was said. @Paull sounded distressed to me about OPs pain. In a post 3 hours prior OP didn't even have SN and was expecting it to arrive. He acted very quickly upon receipt doing a very abbreviated stat regime and within 3 hours was posting his goodbye. If he was a fake i think he would have kept posting and not pmd. I don't think anything anyone could have said for or against was changing OPs mind unfortunately. I'm glad whatever message was deleted. OP was clearly intent on succeeding long before messaging Paull. I'm prochoice and facing my own horrific decision that is put before me not by choice, I'm gently trying to avoid any impulsive decisions by other member involved. Being suicidal and then feeling responsible for a ctb could lead to unplanned ctb.
Again i can only respond based on messages seen now so I could be very out of line and if that's he case forgive me. I hope the message I'm trying to convey is understood as I'm not great with words.

I completely agree with you also. We are nothing as a society if we are not compassionate beings.

I completely agree with you also. We are nothing as a society if we are not compassionate beings.

I truly see both sides. We must be very careful to operate with the purest of intentions if you are surrounded by people in this level of pain.

I completely agree with you also. We are nothing as a society if we are not compassionate beings.

I truly see both sides. We must be very careful to operate with the purest of intentions if you are surrounded by people in this level of pain, rather than their (a person's) own agenda.

 

[Sensei]

Post was deleted so most of us don't even know what was said. @Paull sounded distressed to me about OPs pain.

That's my impression too. It was strong of @Paull to stay with @Гууу to the end, and also to share the effects of SN.

In a post 3 hours prior OP didn't even have SN and was expecting it to arrive. He acted very quickly upon receipt doing a very abbreviated stat regime and within 3 hours was posting his goodbye.

Both my attempts were completely spontaneous, but I still think that impulsive suicides are wrong. It should be a rational and well thought-through decision.

If he was a fake i think he would have kept posting and not pmd.

I think he died too, but you can never take anything for certain when you're online. It doesn't have to be a fake either. For instance, he may survive and decide not to return to the forum.

I don't think anything anyone could have said for or against was changing OPs mind unfortunately. I'm glad whatever message was deleted. OP was clearly intent on succeeding long before messaging Paull.

Agreed.

I'm prochoice and facing my own horrific decision that is put before me not by choice, I'm gently trying to avoid any impulsive decisions by other member involved. Being suicidal and then feeling responsible for a ctb could lead to unplanned ctb.

It's arguably the most important decision you will ever make, so it should be your, and only your, choice. It can't be helped that we infuence each other to one degree or another, but let's at least be aware that we're doing it.

Again i can only respond based on messages seen now so I could be very out of line and if that's he case forgive me. I hope the message I'm trying to convey is understood as I'm not great with words.

Don't worry.

 

[Jojo rabbit]

That's my impression too. It was strong of @Paull to stay with @Гууу to the end, and also to share the effects of SN.



Both my attempts were completely spontaneous, but I still think that impulsive suicides are wrong. It should be a rational and well thought-through decision.



I think he died too, but you can never take anything for certain when you're online. It doesn't have to be a fake either. For instance, he may survive and decide not to return to the forum.



Agreed.



It's arguably the most important decision you will ever make, so it should be your, and only your, choice. It can't be helped that we infuence each other to one degree or another, but let's at least be aware that we're doing it.



Don't worry.

Ok, good. We all agree. Let's hope Tyyy had a happy ending also.

 

[Sensei]

Ok, good. We all agree.

That's not necessarily always a good thing.

Let's hope Tyyy had a happy ending also.

Yes, let's hope he's at peace now, in life or in death. I never get used to this.

 

[Jojo rabbit]

Ok, good. We all agree. Let's hope Tyyy has a happy ending also.

That's not necessarily always a good thing.



Yes, let's hope he's at peace now, in life or in death. I never get used to this.

We all live together in the grey zone, whether we like it or not. Life is never black or white. If anyone told me I would end up here, I never would have believed them. Life is complicated and people should be able to decide if they live or die. Hopefully everyone thinks through everything they say on here. This is life and death.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I hope you were able to find the peace we are all looking for.