Discussion Thoughts on ingesting Thiopental (alternative barbiturate to N)? Could it work?

[wereqryan]

Could sodium thiopental be a substitute to N? Thiopental's molecule is near identical to N's. Would thio be equally bioavailable as N if I drink it? PPH says thio powder can be mixed with water and ingested.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital so you really would need to make sure that you'd ingest the proper amount before passing out.

 

[wereqryan]

Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital

That's what I've read as well.

 

[Tamara Tami]

Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital so you really would need to make sure that you'd ingest the proper amount before passing out.

interesting, can you share some links of studies about that Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital please, hope your understanding, tks in advance

 

[intr0verse]

Yes, thiopental should work but prepare for one of the worst taste you've ever had. Having suphur in its molecule, it will taste pretty much like rotten eggs.
It"s precisely the very fast-acting property that concerns me. Sure, to induce anesthesia it work wonderful, but will it stay in the brain long enough to hyperbolize the neurons, some portion of it will because it converts to pentobarbital in the liver, but what about the rest of it; will be enough to cause death? That's something i don't know.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

interesting, can you share some links of studies about that Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital please, hope your understanding, tks in advance

From Wikipedia:

"Sodium thiopental, also known as Sodium Pentothal (a trademark of Abbott Laboratories), thiopental, thiopentone, or Trapanal (also a trademark), is a rapid-onset short-acting barbiturate general anesthetic."

"Pentobarbital (previously known as pentobarbitone in Britain and Australia) is a short-acting barbiturate typically used as a sedative, a preanesthetic, and to control convulsions in emergencies."

 

[Tamara Tami]

From Wikipedia:

"Sodium thiopental, also known as Sodium Pentothal (a trademark of Abbott Laboratories), thiopental, thiopentone, or Trapanal (also a trademark), is a rapid-onset short-acting barbiturate general anesthetic."

"Pentobarbital (previously known as pentobarbitone in Britain and Australia) is a short-acting barbiturate typically used as a sedative, a preanesthetic, and to control convulsions in emergencies."

tks but this quote doesnt say that Thiopental is even more fast acting than pentobarbital

 

[Euthanza]

Yes, thiopental should work but prepare for one of the worst taste you've ever had. Having suphur in its molecule, it will taste pretty much like rotten eggs.
It"s precisely the very fast-acting property that concerns me. Sure, to induce anesthesia it work wonderful, but will it stay in the brain long enough to hyperbolize the neurons, some portion of it will because it converts to pentobarbital in the liver, but what about the rest of it; will be enough to cause death? That's something i don't know.

How is it compared to SN?

 

[David8886]

Yes, thiopental should work but prepare for one of the worst taste you've ever had. Having suphur in its molecule, it will taste pretty much like rotten eggs.
It"s precisely the very fast-acting property that concerns me. Sure, to induce anesthesia it work wonderful, but will it stay in the brain long enough to hyperbolize the neurons, some portion of it will because it converts to pentobarbital in the liver, but what about the rest of it; will be enough to cause death? That's something i don't know.

Are you a pharmacist

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

something like this I would just use to cause myself to full hang and be unconscious for the dying bit

 

[Sunset Limited]

Thiopental is harder to find than N.

 

[alexx_m]

Could sodium thiopental be a substitute to N? Thiopental's molecule is near identical to N's. Would thio be equally bioavailable as N if I drink it? PPH says thio powder can be mixed with water and ingested.

I don't recall seeing Thiopental in PPH, which version of the book is this in? Thanks!

 

[intr0verse]

I don't recall seeing Thiopental in PPH, which version of the book is this in? Thanks!

All versions, under "Other useful barbiturates" subcategory, alongside phenobarbital.

 

[David8886]

All versions, under "Other useful barbiturates" subcategory, alongside phenobarbital.

i have 25gr phenobarbital
is it success work

 

[intr0verse]

Phenobarbital is lethal in overdose but it will take longer than N so make sure you won't be found too early. How long it will take, i don't know. PPeH says a few hours, others recommend ensuring you won't be found for 72 hours. I personally don't think it will take that long but better safe than sorry.
Alcohol and benzodiazepines will enhance the effects of barbiturates and you'd want to use an antiemetic to prevent yourself from vomiting. Plase note that, if you crush the pills (assuming that's what you have), the resulting powder won't completely dissolve in water, it will be more like a suspension of very fine particles, depending on how well you crush the pills.