Method This is it. My final SN protocol.

[Rogue_Gendarme]

So, this'll probably my finalized SN protocol, but any constructive criticism is acceptable as well. If there be any needs to tweak my protocol/regimen, I'll update this post and add the tweaks to this table and then actually finalize it. And for any people out there who are planning to catch the bus with SN, I hope this helps put you to sleep peacefully.



Alright, so, brief rundown of my protocol here, and rundown of drug choices. First off, I have GERD so it may seem challenging but even just a single tab of Domperidone is enough to help with any sort of nausea, esophageal reflux, or any sort of digestive problems including any potential for gastroparesis. (Prokinetics and gastrokinetic drugs are anti-emetics as well.) Also that's why I have to and have added the Esomeprazole into my schedule, 1) because it's necessary, and, 2) because it will help with the absorption of drugs into my system, which is a thing that PPI's tend to do.

DRUGS OF CHOICE

1. Esomeprazole ➜ Pretty obvious. It's a proton pump inhibitor which helps with the absorption of drugs, the lowering of gastric juices for that purpose, and also helps neutralize excess, emetic acid.
2. Domperidone + Ondansetron ➜ I personally chose and was prescribed Domperidone because of its lower EPS risks. But, maybe, the antidepressants in my system just counteract the EPS effects, IDK. But, it does work like a charm — also helps with my digestion, and for CTB purposes the very useful purpose of nausea-suppression and anti-emetic use. I might even just do stat dose and drop the 3 × 10mg dose before the day I CTB because it just works so well for me. As for Ondansetron, it was cited in the PPH as a supplementary drug for Metoclopramide when taking nitrite drinks. I figured I'd add it anyway, as a supplementary drug for Domperidone instead.
3. Lagaflex ➜ Lagaflex is a combination of the painkiller Paracetamol and the muscle relaxant Carisoprodol. A user named 'Proper Overdoser' suggested using Carisoprodol as a painkiller for the SN method along with the benzo overdose sedatives, suggesting that just Ibuprofen alone or Paracetamol as a painkiller is painful. I'm going to take that advice and that thought into consideration, since accounts of SN deaths have mentioned thrashing, I think. Additionally, I might also add Tramadol, just to be sure. (I am aware of opioids possibly slowing down gastric absorption, but this is why we take anti-emetics; if it still slows down, then, it doesn't really matter since the amount of SN in the system is way past lethal already. More on this later.)
4. Alprazolam ➜ Given that this is the benzodiazepine which I was prescribed and that it's more short-term but fast-acting, I figured I'd go for taking it instead. A single milligram helps me sleep and two'll probably give me an overdose, so 15mg is just to make sure I'd go nighty-nighty faster.
5. Kremil-S ➜ Antacid, nothing more to it. Aluminum hydroxide and magnesium hydroxide supposedly do some chemistry magic in the stomach which allows for more absorption of the nitrite salts. (I read this on a thread which I think was cited in the SN Bible.) I know that the PPH no longer advises antacids, but the combination of PPI's, AE's, and Antacids are a powerful combination which provides a for boost drug absorption, gastric emptying, and motility.
6. Propranolol ➜ I am aware that some don't advise Propranolol because taking too many drugs at once might make you throw up, (more on this, too, later) but I figure I'd add it since it slows down tachycardia which might make me feel more miserable and at best it might trigger my cardiac switch and turn it off.

Alright, so now that I've discussed my drug choices for the SN protocol, let's discuss my protocol itself.

SN PROTOCOL

1. 7-Day Protocol ➜ In order for PPI's like Esomeprazole to work, you'd need at least around half a month to start taking them in order for the effect to really kick in — sometimes, even more. I've scheduled mine for an hour before I eat breakfast and dinner, respectively, because an hour after you take them is the most effective they'll be at. Note that you are really the master of yourself and so you know more about your own metabolism more than anyone else, and with that in mind, the length in which you take PPI's for their benefits to befit you will vary from person to person. Me personally, I've been taking them for over 2 months now and they've been effective at helping with the rate in which I absorb drugs and their effectiveness as well. Drug interactions of PPI's and sedatives (benzo's) work really well when you want to sleep well, so this also compliments the benzo overdose in my protocol.
2. Amount of Drugs ➜ Yes, I've considered the amount of drugs I'm taking in this protocol, especially the addition of Propranolol, Antacids, and the Lagaflex. But, as I mentioned earlier, my AE's work wonders for me and I have a very strong liver — even after taking like 6 different drugs every day prescribed to me by both my psychiatrist and gastroenterologist. That said, liver damage is always still on the horizon especially if you take more varieties of drugs. But, again, you are the master of yourself so for anyone reading this and planning to CTB with a model regimen like mine, you could drop a some of the drugs in here if you fear risking liver damage.
3. Benzodiazepine Dose and Painkillers ➜ I've already mentioned that 15mg of Xanax is what I'm going to take but I want to iterate the importance of a benzo overdose when using a method like SN, and the importance of using a strong painkiller if OTC's don't work for you. For Latin Americans and Indians, I believe Carisoprodol is easily available. In IndiaMart, it's widely sold with exporters exporting to all corners of the world but with very expensive shipping fees. And, again, the benzo overdose is important. That's because SN death usually takes around 40 minutes if I'm not mistaken, which could be described as the SN working actively to shut down the body. If that doesn't sound pleasant, then a copious amount of sedatives will serve to knock out a person who wants to use SN such that they don't experience the effects of death. Or, alternatively, just use opioids for a much more painful death, if that's easily sourced for you.

That's pretty much it, and thanks if you've read this far. Again, any and all constructive and useful criticism is accepted. If there isn't any noteworthy changes I have to take in mind, then I will formally finalize this in my notes.

Thanks, SaSu.

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

May you find the peace you seek for. Your protocol helps me since i'm also planning to use tramadol and xanax. But i'd advise you take the xanax and propanolol first since you don't know what'll happen after you take sn also just so the xanax can take effect first.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

May you find the peace you seek for.

Thank you, stranger. Life's been difficult for all of us, but at least in this community everyone's got each other's backs. May your wishes for me be for you as well.

Your protocol helps me since i'm also planning to use tramadol and xanax. But i'd advise you take the xanax and propanolol first since you don't know what'll happen after you take sn also just so the xanax can take effect first.

I'm glad I can help you out even in anyway whatsoever. But I have to double down on the fact that opioid analgesics slow down gastric emptying and there's studies on this site. I advise also taking an additional dosage to your choice of anti-emetics so you don't suffer, but I doubt and hope that won't be the case given someone already did use Tramadol as a painkiller and they were last seen in January. (Search up Tramadol, if you wanna know more about their protocol.)

Kind hugs again, and may we all find the peace we deserve.

Additionally, I might also add Tramadol, just to be sure. (I am aware of opioids possibly slowing down gastric absorption, but this is why we take anti-emetics; if it still slows down, then, it doesn't really matter since the amount of SN in the system is way past lethal already. More on this later.)

I forgot to mention this in the post, but, I want to also add that even if vomiting occurs after drug consumption or SN consumption, the amount in the system still suffices for the lethal dose. Even just short of a dozen grams is enough to kill, I think. Additionally, it's much better in actuality if you throw up the SN rather than the drugs because the drugs are there to make the process less painful. Even if the SN's been swallowed, there won't be any going back anyways.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

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I forgot to add, but I'll be solid food fasting 10 hours before and 2 hours of liquid fasting beforehand. (There was some mention about how you don't really need to fast liquids for several hours, and that the minimum amount is 2 hours.) I have a terrible case of feeling dehydrated all the time, so I'm using this strategy of 10 then 2 so I wouldn't produce too much acid due to lack of food and won't be too nauseated because I didn't drink 'nuff water.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

Would like to reiterate again if anyone has some solid, constructive criticism for my plan, then please feel free to add.

(Rahh, I hope this is not necroposting, I'd just like to bump this thread again for more engagement and discussions regarding SN protocols in general.)

 

[Jrileniwa]

Would like to reiterate again if anyone has some solid, constructive criticism for my plan, then please feel free to add.

(Rahh, I hope this is not necroposting, I'd just like to bump this thread again for more engagement and discussions regarding SN protocols in general.)

Well looking at the various threads that displayed their protocol, it seems to be pretty detailed. Unfortunately I'm not well versed, but I've seen in another thread that they took the zos a bit before the actual SN. Depends though, since I've seen they have different periods where they're most effective so can't say.
When it comes to antacids, will any work or does it have to be Esomeprazole or are others just as effective?

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

Well looking at the various threads that displayed their protocol, it seems to be pretty detailed.

Thank you! As an "organized" type of guy, I appreciate it when people notice how I pay attention to even the smallest details.

Unfortunately I'm not well versed, but I've seen in another thread that they took the zos a bit before the actual SN. Depends though, since I've seen they have different periods where they're most effective so can't say.

I might do that as well... Some users did indeed recommend taking the benzos before SN, because it's meant to be a sedative, right? But I am concerned about timing, like if gulping it all down makes you pass out and overdose instead rather than helping sedate you once you take it in tandem with the SN.

When it comes to antacids, will any work or does it have to be Esomeprazole or are others just as effective?

Any antacids work fine! Just look for anything with Aluminum Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide with it. (I think it's most commonly known as Milk of Magnesia in the west, but there's also Gaviscon.) There's a chemical reaction with those chemicals in the stomach which allows for more SN absorption, but not just SN but also salt. So, in general, antacid helps absorb bodily salt and there's this mishy mashy chemistry formula for that which I'm not too smart to understand, but basically more salt is equal to more lethal dose of dangerous salt (Sodium Nitrite).

As for Esomeprazole, I think you mean PPI, but indeed, any PPI will work fine as well! Omeprazole, Esomeprazole, Pantaprazole, etc. Just be careful of the side effects! If you are scared of 1 week of that regimen, try 3 days.

I hope my post helped you in any way, and may you find your peace, kind stranger.

 

[Jrileniwa]

Thank you! As an "organized" type of guy, I appreciate it when people notice how I pay attention to even the smallest details.

I might do that as well... Some users did indeed recommend taking the benzos before SN, because it's meant to be a sedative, right? But I am concerned about timing, like if gulping it all down makes you pass out and overdose instead rather than helping sedate you once you take it in tandem with the SN.

Any antacids work fine! Just look for anything with Aluminum Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide with it. (I think it's most commonly known as Milk of Magnesia in the west, but there's also Gaviscon.) There's a chemical reaction with those chemicals in the stomach which allows for more SN absorption, but not just SN but also salt. So, in general, antacid helps absorb bodily salt and there's this mishy mashy chemistry formula for that which I'm not too smart to understand, but basically more salt is equal to more lethal dose of dangerous salt (Sodium Nitrite).

As for Esomeprazole, I think you mean PPI, but indeed, any PPI will work fine as well! Omeprazole, Esomeprazole, Pantaprazole, etc. Just be careful of the side effects! If you are scared of 1 week of that regimen, try 3 days.

I hope my post helped you in any way, and may you find your peace, kind stranger.

Thank you. I hope you'll be able to find peace. For what it's worth, I hope the last moments won't be too painful. I truly do hope that.

 

[ilovebudgie]

So, this'll probably my finalized SN protocol, but any constructive criticism is acceptable as well. If there be any needs to tweak my protocol/regimen, I'll update this post and add the tweaks to this table and then actually finalize it. And for any people out there who are planning to catch the bus with SN, I hope this helps put you to sleep peacefully.

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Alright, so, brief rundown of my protocol here, and rundown of drug choices. First off, I have GERD so it may seem challenging but even just a single tab of Domperidone is enough to help with any sort of nausea, esophageal reflux, or any sort of digestive problems including any potential for gastroparesis. (Prokinetics and gastrokinetic drugs are anti-emetics as well.) Also that's why I have to and have added the Esomeprazole into my schedule, 1) because it's necessary, and, 2) because it will help with the absorption of drugs into my system, which is a thing that PPI's tend to do.

DRUGS OF CHOICE

1. Esomeprazole ➜ Pretty obvious. It's a proton pump inhibitor which helps with the absorption of drugs, the lowering of gastric juices for that purpose, and also helps neutralize excess, emetic acid.
2. Domperidone + Ondansetron ➜ I personally chose and was prescribed Domperidone because of its lower EPS risks. But, maybe, the antidepressants in my system just counteract the EPS effects, IDK. But, it does work like a charm — also helps with my digestion, and for CTB purposes the very useful purpose of nausea-suppression and anti-emetic use. I might even just do stat dose and drop the 3 × 10mg dose before the day I CTB because it just works so well for me. As for Ondansetron, it was cited in the PPH as a supplementary drug for Metoclopramide when taking nitrite drinks. I figured I'd add it anyway, as a supplementary drug for Domperidone instead.
3. Lagaflex ➜ Lagaflex is a combination of the painkiller Paracetamol and the muscle relaxant Carisoprodol. A user named 'Proper Overdoser' suggested using Carisoprodol as a painkiller for the SN method along with the benzo overdose sedatives, suggesting that just Ibuprofen alone or Paracetamol as a painkiller is painful. I'm going to take that advice and that thought into consideration, since accounts of SN deaths have mentioned thrashing, I think. Additionally, I might also add Tramadol, just to be sure. (I am aware of opioids possibly slowing down gastric absorption, but this is why we take anti-emetics; if it still slows down, then, it doesn't really matter since the amount of SN in the system is way past lethal already. More on this later.)
4. Alprazolam ➜ Given that this is the benzodiazepine which I was prescribed and that it's more short-term but fast-acting, I figured I'd go for taking it instead. A single milligram helps me sleep and two'll probably give me an overdose, so 15mg is just to make sure I'd go nighty-nighty faster.
5. Kremil-S ➜ Antacid, nothing more to it. Aluminum hydroxide and magnesium hydroxide supposedly do some chemistry magic in the stomach which allows for more absorption of the nitrite salts. (I read this on a thread which I think was cited in the SN Bible.) I know that the PPH no longer advises antacids, but the combination of PPI's, AE's, and Antacids are a powerful combination which provides a for boost drug absorption, gastric emptying, and motility.
6. Propranolol ➜ I am aware that some don't advise Propranolol because taking too many drugs at once might make you throw up, (more on this, too, later) but I figure I'd add it since it slows down tachycardia which might make me feel more miserable and at best it might trigger my cardiac switch and turn it off.

Alright, so now that I've discussed my drug choices for the SN protocol, let's discuss my protocol itself.

SN PROTOCOL

1. 7-Day Protocol ➜ In order for PPI's like Esomeprazole to work, you'd need at least around half a month to start taking them in order for the effect to really kick in — sometimes, even more. I've scheduled mine for an hour before I eat breakfast and dinner, respectively, because an hour after you take them is the most effective they'll be at. Note that you are really the master of yourself and so you know more about your own metabolism more than anyone else, and with that in mind, the length in which you take PPI's for their benefits to befit you will vary from person to person. Me personally, I've been taking them for over 2 months now and they've been effective at helping with the rate in which I absorb drugs and their effectiveness as well. Drug interactions of PPI's and sedatives (benzo's) work really well when you want to sleep well, so this also compliments the benzo overdose in my protocol.
2. Amount of Drugs ➜ Yes, I've considered the amount of drugs I'm taking in this protocol, especially the addition of Propranolol, Antacids, and the Lagaflex. But, as I mentioned earlier, my AE's work wonders for me and I have a very strong liver — even after taking like 6 different drugs every day prescribed to me by both my psychiatrist and gastroenterologist. That said, liver damage is always still on the horizon especially if you take more varieties of drugs. But, again, you are the master of yourself so for anyone reading this and planning to CTB with a model regimen like mine, you could drop a some of the drugs in here if you fear risking liver damage.
3. Benzodiazepine Dose and Painkillers ➜ I've already mentioned that 15mg of Xanax is what I'm going to take but I want to iterate the importance of a benzo overdose when using a method like SN, and the importance of using a strong painkiller if OTC's don't work for you. For Latin Americans and Indians, I believe Carisoprodol is easily available. In IndiaMart, it's widely sold with exporters exporting to all corners of the world but with very expensive shipping fees. And, again, the benzo overdose is important. That's because SN death usually takes around 40 minutes if I'm not mistaken, which could be described as the SN working actively to shut down the body. If that doesn't sound pleasant, then a copious amount of sedatives will serve to knock out a person who wants to use SN such that they don't experience the effects of death. Or, alternatively, just use opioids for a much more painful death, if that's easily sourced for you.

That's pretty much it, and thanks if you've read this far. Again, any and all constructive and useful criticism is accepted. If there isn't any noteworthy changes I have to take in mind, then I will formally finalize this in my notes.

Thanks, SaSu.

Thank you for taking the time to research and share this information, I hope you find peace friend

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

Thank you for taking the time to research and share this information, I hope you find peace friend

I appreciate the appreciation, and likewise, friend. I hope it helps anyone, or helped you, specifically.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

So, this'll probably my finalized SN protocol, but any constructive criticism is acceptable as well. If there be any needs to tweak my protocol/regimen, I'll update this post and add the tweaks to this table and then actually finalize it. And for any people out there who are planning to catch the bus with SN, I hope this helps put you to sleep peacefully.

View attachment 201003

Alright, so, brief rundown of my protocol here, and rundown of drug choices. First off, I have GERD so it may seem challenging but even just a single tab of Domperidone is enough to help with any sort of nausea, esophageal reflux, or any sort of digestive problems including any potential for gastroparesis. (Prokinetics and gastrokinetic drugs are anti-emetics as well.) Also that's why I have to and have added the Esomeprazole into my schedule, 1) because it's necessary, and, 2) because it will help with the absorption of drugs into my system, which is a thing that PPI's tend to do.

DRUGS OF CHOICE

1. Esomeprazole ➜ Pretty obvious. It's a proton pump inhibitor which helps with the absorption of drugs, the lowering of gastric juices for that purpose, and also helps neutralize excess, emetic acid.
2. Domperidone + Ondansetron ➜ I personally chose and was prescribed Domperidone because of its lower EPS risks. But, maybe, the antidepressants in my system just counteract the EPS effects, IDK. But, it does work like a charm — also helps with my digestion, and for CTB purposes the very useful purpose of nausea-suppression and anti-emetic use. I might even just do stat dose and drop the 3 × 10mg dose before the day I CTB because it just works so well for me. As for Ondansetron, it was cited in the PPH as a supplementary drug for Metoclopramide when taking nitrite drinks. I figured I'd add it anyway, as a supplementary drug for Domperidone instead.
3. Lagaflex ➜ Lagaflex is a combination of the painkiller Paracetamol and the muscle relaxant Carisoprodol. A user named 'Proper Overdoser' suggested using Carisoprodol as a painkiller for the SN method along with the benzo overdose sedatives, suggesting that just Ibuprofen alone or Paracetamol as a painkiller is painful. I'm going to take that advice and that thought into consideration, since accounts of SN deaths have mentioned thrashing, I think. Additionally, I might also add Tramadol, just to be sure. (I am aware of opioids possibly slowing down gastric absorption, but this is why we take anti-emetics; if it still slows down, then, it doesn't really matter since the amount of SN in the system is way past lethal already. More on this later.)
4. Alprazolam ➜ Given that this is the benzodiazepine which I was prescribed and that it's more short-term but fast-acting, I figured I'd go for taking it instead. A single milligram helps me sleep and two'll probably give me an overdose, so 15mg is just to make sure I'd go nighty-nighty faster.
5. Kremil-S ➜ Antacid, nothing more to it. Aluminum hydroxide and magnesium hydroxide supposedly do some chemistry magic in the stomach which allows for more absorption of the nitrite salts. (I read this on a thread which I think was cited in the SN Bible.) I know that the PPH no longer advises antacids, but the combination of PPI's, AE's, and Antacids are a powerful combination which provides a for boost drug absorption, gastric emptying, and motility.
6. Propranolol ➜ I am aware that some don't advise Propranolol because taking too many drugs at once might make you throw up, (more on this, too, later) but I figure I'd add it since it slows down tachycardia which might make me feel more miserable and at best it might trigger my cardiac switch and turn it off.

Alright, so now that I've discussed my drug choices for the SN protocol, let's discuss my protocol itself.

SN PROTOCOL

1. 7-Day Protocol ➜ In order for PPI's like Esomeprazole to work, you'd need at least around half a month to start taking them in order for the effect to really kick in — sometimes, even more. I've scheduled mine for an hour before I eat breakfast and dinner, respectively, because an hour after you take them is the most effective they'll be at. Note that you are really the master of yourself and so you know more about your own metabolism more than anyone else, and with that in mind, the length in which you take PPI's for their benefits to befit you will vary from person to person. Me personally, I've been taking them for over 2 months now and they've been effective at helping with the rate in which I absorb drugs and their effectiveness as well. Drug interactions of PPI's and sedatives (benzo's) work really well when you want to sleep well, so this also compliments the benzo overdose in my protocol.
2. Amount of Drugs ➜ Yes, I've considered the amount of drugs I'm taking in this protocol, especially the addition of Propranolol, Antacids, and the Lagaflex. But, as I mentioned earlier, my AE's work wonders for me and I have a very strong liver — even after taking like 6 different drugs every day prescribed to me by both my psychiatrist and gastroenterologist. That said, liver damage is always still on the horizon especially if you take more varieties of drugs. But, again, you are the master of yourself so for anyone reading this and planning to CTB with a model regimen like mine, you could drop a some of the drugs in here if you fear risking liver damage.
3. Benzodiazepine Dose and Painkillers ➜ I've already mentioned that 15mg of Xanax is what I'm going to take but I want to iterate the importance of a benzo overdose when using a method like SN, and the importance of using a strong painkiller if OTC's don't work for you. For Latin Americans and Indians, I believe Carisoprodol is easily available. In IndiaMart, it's widely sold with exporters exporting to all corners of the world but with very expensive shipping fees. And, again, the benzo overdose is important. That's because SN death usually takes around 40 minutes if I'm not mistaken, which could be described as the SN working actively to shut down the body. If that doesn't sound pleasant, then a copious amount of sedatives will serve to knock out a person who wants to use SN such that they don't experience the effects of death. Or, alternatively, just use opioids for a much more painful death, if that's easily sourced for you.

That's pretty much it, and thanks if you've read this far. Again, any and all constructive and useful criticism is accepted. If there isn't any noteworthy changes I have to take in mind, then I will formally finalize this in my notes.

Thanks, SaSu.

Some additional clarifications, (I swear, this is the last one ) I may or may not have someone on call with me while I take the drink for future references regarding SN CTB. (As some sort of contribution.)

I want to ask if there's any authority on this? So that it could be appended onto any future SN protocol considerations or info on SN CTB, to help people more broadly.

Additionally, I accidentally wrote opioid death as painful — I meant to say the contrary. If you specifically have the means of sourcing copious amounts of opioids and alcohol and benzo's (alcohol + benzo as sedative or a "high" kick to lower anxiety and SI before CTB), then it may be more reliable and peaceful than SN death, some sources here suggest.

And here's my final chart, no more additions after this, I promise.

FINAL SN PROTOCOL CHART



*Sumatripan (50mg) is anti-headache prescription medication.
*Also want to reiterate again that Tramadol delays gastric emptying, but that it is a helpful prescription painkiller. And the AE prokinetics may help with speeding up gastric emptying anyway. But even if the absorption of SN becomes slower, the Benzo overdose acts as sedation to knock you out so you won't feel the active shutting down of your body, ideally. And the Propranolol at that dosage is meant to trigger cardiac arrest, ideally after being knocked out.
*Want to iterate this is not a perfect model, and that this is just my protocol, but if I do indeed find a person to phone with while I CTB and they report the findings, we'll find out if my method works great or any of the things I do can benefit any more people willing to try CTB by SN.
*So, therefore, take everything I say with a grain of salt, and do your own research as well. My method is not perfect, even if it is thoroughly scheduled down to the details. And some things may go haywire in the end, but we'll only know for sure after the findings on my death show positive results or negative.

Anyway, that's all, thanks again, SaSu. I shall come back soon. My date is nearing anyway, and I'll post an update on my specific death date and whoever (if ever) the person who'll be on phone with me be.