The SN experience

[axab43]

There are different descriptions of what taking SN is really like. Can anyone say if it really does involve suffering, beyond being sick and racing heart? To some it sounds as if it was fairly peaceful, to others it seems horrific. It is hard to know which is true

 

[c3po]

Well, my research has revealed the following:

- Stomach pain and a racing heart can be treated with medication.

- Severe headaches are to be expected due to the dilation of blood vessels, and these are difficult to treat or prevent.

So I guess the only option is to steel myself for discipline and perseverance?

 

[Kayla]

You're ingesting a chemical it's not gonna be peaceful.

 

[isthisthingon]

Im alive after ingesting 20g of SN

This was at 4am. After I drank my SN mix. I immediately laid down. I watched my TV for about 10 minutes. Then the horror...I of course, vomited profusely. Yes, I took antiemetics. I laid back down. I could feel my body start to shut down. I remember breathing in agony. I got up and remember...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Sounds awful

 

[Bishop]

I don't think it's peaceful. There's no method (that we can easily obtain) that would be considered peaceful. Not to me at least.

 

[taker_of_insulin]

I don't think it's peaceful. There's no method (that we can easily obtain) that would be considered peaceful. Not to me at least.

Iv opioid overdose is peaceful

 

[MyMomWasMyLife]

There are different descriptions of what taking SN is really like. Can anyone say if it really does involve suffering, beyond being sick and racing heart? To some it sounds as if it was fairly peaceful, to others it seems horrific. It is hard to know which is true

Everything I've read/saw about this stuff is horrible. I would never personally attempt this method and am surprised at how many do or want to.

 

[Iloveyoumommy]

Everything I've read/saw about this stuff is horrible. I would never personally attempt this method and am surprised at how many do or want to.

Really? What method do you think is more peaceful?

 

[Macedonian1987]

Horrible or not it is the only method i find doable.

Hanging - im too stupid to make it work. Jumping from a tall height is imposible for me as im scared of heights. Guns, good luck buying them if you live in Europe. Drowning or train is too violent for me.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Im alive after ingesting 20g of SN

This was at 4am. After I drank my SN mix. I immediately laid down. I watched my TV for about 10 minutes. Then the horror...I of course, vomited profusely. Yes, I took antiemetics. I laid back down. I could feel my body start to shut down. I remember breathing in agony. I got up and remember...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Sounds awful

That's because the SN was not pure enough to use. Can't not strip test SN and expect it to be pure enough to use. New members keep dragging up that years old thread and missing that important detail. It came from a PC, source that is now known to be bad.

 

[E4syW3y0u7]

I suppose that's why they recommend taking crushed benzo, to make you less aware/fall unconscious faster.

 

[Macedonian1987]

I suppose that's why they recommend taking crushed benzo, to make you less aware/fall unconscious faster.

No way I'm drinking my SN before taking a large dose of benzos to calm me down.

 

[E4syW3y0u7]

No way I'm drinking my SN before taking a large dose of benzos to calm me down.

On the PPeH, they say to take the crushed benzos right after SN but idk if it's the right timing. Seems it's better to take them before ? But if you are too impaired to gulp the SN after it defeats the purpose...

If only it was simple...

 

[wine is fine but]

On the PPeH, they say to take the crushed benzos right after SN but idk if it's the right timing. Seems it's better to take them before ?

the have been people on here who failed because they took the benzos first, promptly passed out and could not drink the sn
sn is needed to complete the job - benzos are not
if you take the sn and pass out before you can take the benzo - they were not needed, and the job is complete
if you take the benzos and pass out before you can take the sn - the job is a failure and you have wasted your sn and your time

 

[Macedonian1987]

On the PPeH, they say to take the crushed benzos right after SN but idk if it's the right timing. Seems it's better to take them before ? But if you are too impaired to gulp the SN after it defeats the purpose...

If only it was simple...

I took Xanax few times and each time i upped the dosage, I wanted to find the right dosage in which I'm sedated enough to not care that I will die, but not too sedated to fall a sleep mid protocol. As a Xanax naive person 1,5-2mg was enough to make me feel very relaxed, but still capable enough to drink the cup of SN.
Of course the beonzo-dosage will be diferent for everyone, depending on their weight, age and if they taken benzos before.

 

[c3po]

I suppose that's why they recommend taking crushed benzo, to make you less aware/fall unconscious faster.

That doesn't make sense to me.

Vomiting seems to be the rule rather than the exception. If, as recommended in the PPEH, you take the benzodiazepine mixture last, after the SN, it will also be the first thing to come back up.

Oxazepam, clonazepam, or any other slow-acting benzodiazepine won't do you any good if you want to lose consciousness from benzos.

It would have to be a very fast-acting benzodiazepine, like Xanax or another one (and it would have to stay in your system for a long time).

 

[abcdefg789]

You're ingesting a chemical it's not gonna be peaceful.

EXACTLY!

There are different descriptions of what taking SN is really like. Can anyone say if it really does involve suffering, beyond being sick and racing heart? To some it sounds as if it was fairly peaceful, to others it seems horrific. It is hard to know which is true

Humans are infinitely diverse. There's going to be a range of experiences.

 

[youremy]

Yeah, this is something that has caught my attention too. I suspect the logic behind it is the following - SN is expected to cause vomiting, so if you're going to chug a lot of benzos, it's better for them to be the first thing that come out, in the case that any vomiting occurs in the first place.

What I'm considering for my protocol is a small amount a moderate slow-acting (~ 1 hr) benzos leading up to ingestion, then a large portion of crushed fast acting benzos 15 minutes prior to injestion (which is around the time that they hit) and 15-20 g of SN in enteric capsules.

All of this with the 48 hr antiemetic regimen. I expect to be completely out of it by the time it reaches the small intestine.

My only concern is SN flooding the small intestine causing pain to the point of being awoken even after taking a colossal amount of strong conciousness-loss causing anxiolytics. I haven't seen any reports on the forum that used the method, perhaps I'll be the first. I doubt vomiting would be much of a problem with those capsules though, although I may be wrong.

Thoughts?

 

[c3po]

Yeah, this is something that has caught my attention too. I suspect the logic behind it is the following - SN is expected to cause vomiting, so if you're going to chug a lot of benzos, it's better for them to be the first thing that come out, in the case that any vomiting occurs in the first place.

You mean that, in case of doubt, the benzos are released first and have a little more time to pass into the small intestine?

What I'm considering for my protocol is a small amount a moderate slow-acting (~ 1 hr) benzos leading up to ingestion, then a large portion of crushed fast acting benzos 15 minutes prior to injestion (which is around the time that they hit) and 15-20 g of SN in enteric capsules.

According to my research, taking SN in enteric-coated capsules can go terribly wrong. The stomach releases solids - that is, anything that doesn't dissolve immediately in the stomach - into the small intestine at longer intervals. The time between these intervals can be as long as 90 minutes.

Even if you take all the capsules within a few minutes or even in a single swallow, on an empty stomach, it's possible that only some of the capsules will be transferred to the small intestine at first, with the rest being transferred 90 minutes later.

 

[youremy]

I'm referring to most of the standard protocols on the website, which suggest SN first and then benzos. This makes almost zero sense to me. SN effects kick in within 5-10 minutes, while fast acting benzos take 10-15 minutes to kick in. You might be vomiting after 10 minutes, which leads me to believe that you'll be vomiting the benzos first*, almost completely defeating the purpose. Why not benzos first? After 15 minutes when you're becoming completely drowsy, you just hit the SN. Sure, that can rid you of the option of taking the second glass, but how many people go for the second glass anyway? You could also do the first SN dose approx 7 minutes after injesting the benzos.

Could you provide a source/compilation of sourcses that you compiled your research on the enteric-coated capsules from?


(*) assuming the benzos and SN don't just become a uniform goop/solution in the stomach (which I would place my bets on that they do).