Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[Michaelwaev]

Just to get things clear, are cornhole bags like mini beanbags? I'm interested in this method. I thought cornholebags were like a whole bag that you could put over your head but if not it's pretty simple. What would be easiest to buy?

 

[Largeletters]

After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

So, I could just use gorilla tape instead of the ratchet?

 

[Efilismislife]

Can use belt too i read

So, I could just use gorilla tape instead of the ratchet?

 

[Largeletters]

Can use belt too i read

Thanks for replying. I don't want to use the ratchet thing as it sounds kind of complicated.

 

[Efilismislife]

But you have to practice to find the carotid spot first

Thanks for replying. I don't want to use the ratchet thing as it sounds kind of complicated.

 

[Largeletters]

But you have to practice to find the carotid spot first

I suppose you're right... why does death have to be so complicated? :/

 

[Efilismislife]

That depends though
there are people who accidentally kill themselves when playing this choking game, even kids

Then people who overdose but many said that wasnt a reliable method to ctb

And theres also many who accidentally died from charcoal poisoning but some people who ctb using it say they failed

I suppose you're right... why does death have to be so complicated? :/

 

[Gabu1984]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Hi there. Thanks for this. I didnt understand how to use the bags. How do you place the bags on the carotod arteries when the bags are quite big?

 

[NeedToSleep]

I managed to find my sweet spot on the first day of trying, but I was too excited to pay attention to how I did it. It's been a week and I haven't been able to find it again no matter where or how hard I press. I can see the pulsing points on either side of my neck when I tilt my head back, and I can feel the "blobs" pulsing when I press on them, but I can't replicate the blacking out sensation. Hopefully it will be easier with the beanbags once they get here.

 

[Efilismislife]

I managed to find my sweet spot on the first day of trying, but I was too excited to pay attention to how I did it. It's been a week and I haven't been able to find it again no matter where or how hard I press. I can see the pulsing points on either side of my neck when I tilt my head back, and I can feel the "blobs" pulsing when I press on them, but I can't replicate the blacking out sensation. Hopefully it will be easier with the beanbags once they get here.

Did you apply strong pressure to both of them? And you still didnt manage to pass out??

 

[Anonymous 4]

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.


For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.



I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.





I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.



This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.



This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.



As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.



It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.



Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.



You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

The blood carries the oxygen, so if you cut the blood off, you don't need to cut of the breath, the breath fills the blood with oxygen, then the blood carries it, cutting off the blood is the second stage in that process, which when you think of it, makes more sence to do that compared to cutting off the breath

 

[NeedToSleep]

Did you apply strong pressure to both of them? And you still didnt manage to pass out??

Yes, I've tried different levels of pressure and different angles, to the point that my neck is sore the next day, but no luck. I've tried with the bean bags a couple times now and no luck with them so far either. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but going to keep practicing.

 

[checkouttime]

i guess technique is the key with these things, if you don't succeed, try, try again!!!! I imagine using the bean bags and ratchet strap will make this alot easier to perform. I mean there cheap and affordable ,so it would be worth just buying them anyway if you want to try this method

there's actually some downloadable content for being able to 3D print a 'korean collar' i remember seeing it somewhere.

 

[NeedToSleep]

Managed to find it again with my fingers, but it stopped on its own just as I was starting to see black for some reason. Felt warm instead of tingly this time too. And now I can't find it again. Some kind of progress at least, I guess.

 

[Efilismislife]

Yes, I've tried different levels of pressure and different angles, to the point that my neck is sore the next day, but no luck. I've tried with the bean bags a couple times now and no luck with them so far either. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but going to keep practicing.

On both of your carotid arteries?

Usually the issue is either, not on carotid artery or not enough pressure. So im confused. Someone should help and explain it.

Cause theoretically it says if both carotid arteries is pressured strong enough it should block blood flow to the brain.

 

[NeedToSleep]

On both of your carotid arteries?

Usually the issue is either, not on carotid artery or not enough pressure. So im confused. Someone should help and explain it.

Cause theoretically it says if both carotid arteries is pressured strong enough it should block blood flow to the brain.

I apply strong pressure to both pulsing points on either side of the neck, but nothing happens most of the time.

 

[Efilismislife]

I apply strong pressure to both pulsing points on either side of the neck, but nothing happens most of the time.

Thats confusing Maybe its not the right spot? Would you be able to show in picture(just the chin&wholeneck) and mark/show the place where you put pressure?

 

[NeedToSleep]

Managed to find it again in the shower today. I think I've been pressing too close to the windpipe, but if I go too far to the side then I hit the jugular I think (swolen head feeling). Progress I guess.

 

[The Mute Viking]

The only question I want to be answered is;
Where the hell are we supposed to secure the other ends of the ratchet end rope/hooks?

 

[checkouttime]

The only question I want to be answered is;
Where the hell are we supposed to secure the other ends of the ratchet end rope/hooks?

you use an endless ratchet strap..........it doesn't have hooks on

 

[The Mute Viking]

you use an endless ratchet strap..........it doesn't have hooks on

I was thinking that. This method is abit confusing for where to secure the ends at.
So that's just my main concern.
I'm going to just have to find a tree/pole to hang it from lmfao.

 

[checkouttime]

I was thinking that. This method is abit confusing for where to secure the ends at.
So that's just my main concern.
I'm going to just have to find a tree/pole to hang it from lmfao.

there are no ends to secure as you use an endless ratchet strap. It DOESN'T have ENDS to secure. It tightens on itself, your obviously getting concerned about irrelevant stuff

If there are NO ENDS to secure, a person can't get confused about them can they, its just common sense. I would advise some more research then you will know why your 'confusion' makes no sense at all, there are no ends, so the ends can't be something to be concerned about, i guess its common sense to most though!

 

[NeedToSleep]

Still no luck with the beanbags, I just get the swollen head feeling every time. I think they might be too big, they cover pretty much the entire front half of my neck and it's hard to precisely position them. Guess I need to order some smaller ones.

The only question I want to be answered is;
Where the hell are we supposed to secure the other ends of the ratchet end rope/hooks?

An infinite ratchet works like a ziptie, it connects to itself in a loop that goes around your neck. You don't attach it to anything.

there are no ends to secure as you use an endless ratchet strap. It DOESN'T have ENDS to secure. It tightens on itself, your obviously getting concerned about irrelevant stuff

If there are NO ENDS to secure, a person can't get confused about them can they, its just common sense. I would advise some more research then you will know why your 'confusion' makes no sense at all, there are no ends, so the ends can't be something to be concerned about, i guess its common sense to most though!

No need to be passive aggressive.

 

[checkouttime]

Still no luck with the beanbags, I just get the swollen head feeling every time. I think they might be too big, they cover pretty much the entire front half of my neck and it's hard to precisely position them. Guess I need to order some smaller ones.

An infinite ratchet works like a ziptie, it connects to itself in a loop that goes around your neck. You don't attach it to anything.

No need to be passive aggressive.

I wasn't being aggressive? just pointing out the facts. if you researched what an endless ratchet strap is you would see what was being said makes no sense at all(I'm not going to apologise for knowing facts from doing research), hence why i pointed out what you were saying was wrong. please research things before you pass comment about them. its in the rules to provide ACCURATE INFORMATION, which is what i did, and which the other member DIDN'T, its all there in black and white

 

[NeedToSleep]

I wasn't being aggressive? just pointing out the facts. if you researched what an endless ratchet strap is you would see what was being said makes no sense at all(I'm not going to apologise for knowing facts from doing research), hence why i pointed out what you were saying was wrong. please research things before you pass comment about them. its in the rules to provide ACCURATE INFORMATION, which is what i did, and which the other member DIDN'T, its all there in black and white

I'm not the person you were talking to? But yes, you were and are being passive aggressive and condescending. It's obnoxious.

 

[WatermelonMel]

I'm not the person you were talking to? But yes, you were and are being passive aggressive and condescending. It's obnoxious.

Thank you for speaking out, it sucks to see Reddit attitudes here

 

[checkouttime]

I'm not the person you were talking to? But yes, you were and are being passive aggressive and condescending. It's obnoxious.

If you want to check out the FAQ's it says all about providing accurate information! i researched what an endless ratchet strap is, and posted why it didn't work in the way the other member said it did. its not my fault if they didn't research what one was and consisted off. its the reason were told to research things.

I guess in your eyes its ok for someone to post false information, but then not be corrected on being wrong. says alot really

anyway what posted was simple facts. not untrue claims. i will leave everyone else to choose what they believe

 

[The Mute Viking]

You were being super passive aggressive over a simple matter of confusion.
I was thinking in terms of suspension.
I didn't account for that it would be a free-hanging method.
A simple, forward explaintion would have been suffiecent and not being a pretentious, arrogant bastard exaggerating the question.

Also I'm not one of the people you were talking about regarding making false statements, what the fuck are you smoking?

tl;dr go fuck yourself. :)

Thanks @NeedToSleep @WatermelonMel for supporting and clarifying/reacting. You guys are lovely.

 

[NeedToSleep]

If you want to check out the FAQ's it says all about providing accurate information! i researched what an endless ratchet strap is, and posted why it didn't work in the way the other member said it did. its not my fault if they didn't research what one was and consisted off. its the reason were told to research things.

I guess in your eyes its ok for someone to post false information, but then not be corrected on being wrong. says alot really

anyway what posted was simple facts. not untrue claims. i will leave everyone else to choose what they believe

You didn't do that though, you just said "do more research" while being condescending. What "false information" did they post by asking a question? That's not how that works.

 

[WatermelonMel]

Today I learned that taping medicine caps onto ratchet straps sucks, the plastic ones warp too easily, and sturdier ones like metal get all unaligned and don't go up against your neck correctly when tightening, even when holding them in place. how does something so straight forward go so wrong?

I need alternatives.. Are the cornhole bags even viable? I've seen many people say they don't work so I didn't bother buying any.
Does anyone have something for carotid artery pressure with a ratchet strap that actually works decently?