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You do a lot for this community, even if you don't get thanks directly there's still lots of people that appreciate it.
 
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Thank you very, very much HereToday. You're precious.
 
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Thanks very much for that Here Today .I have read it but im not very technically minded , am i right in assuming if you have weak lungs this would perhaps not work . ? Or would it take less time to kill you if you have weak lungs ?
Pity its only 6/10 ,there again if it doesnt kill you it is not going to have any after effects is it ?
Any thoughts on this ?
Your such a gem being so helpfull to us all .:hug:
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
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Some shady shit here. I went to the website and if you read carefully, you are only buying "title" to the device where it sits. Then you have to "arrange shipment" separately with Rocket Express - at extra cost.

Some simple googling shows Rocket Express is an outright scammy reshipment scam. Complaints of stolen credit cards, money never received, goods lost.

so, as with anything Nitschke, more to it than it seems and probably more $$$. I went to right2die as soon as I read this with intention of ordering one but now idk.
 
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morningdew

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Jul 8, 2019
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few post on here have made want to vent but this scam is so transparent. The sales pitch and the end of the recent update of thePPHB is even more offensive. "just lay back and drift off to a peaceful death under the stars" or something like that. At the same time they give it a reliability rating of 6. Site mention in the PPHB say it "won awards" for its design. Just on and on with bullshit. I believe at one point they really focused on helping people. Now it seems it just about squeezing money out of people and putting those at risk who believe their claims.
 
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Christ88

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Jan 7, 2020
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few post on here have made want to vent but this scam is so transparent. The sales pitch and the end of the recent update of thePPHB is even more offensive. "just lay back and drift off to a peaceful death under the stars" or something like that. At the same time they give it a reliability rating of 6. Site mention in the PPHB say it "won awards" for its design. Just on and on with bullshit. I believe at one point they really focused on helping people. Now it seems it just about squeezing money out of people and putting those at risk who believe their claims.

I tried buying a debreather earlier and when I was clicking on the submit payment button it just kept loading briefly and then nothing happened. I believe it is either a scam or an incredibly dodgy / not thought through operation. Now I am worrying I am going to get ripped off.

I tried buying a debreather earlier and when I was clicking on the submit payment button it just kept loading briefly and then nothing happened. I believe it is either a scam or an incredibly dodgy / not thought through operation. Now I am worrying I am going to get ripped off.

Sodium Nitrite had 6/10 only up until recently when mixing it with 2 grams propanolol moved it up to 7/10
 
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nirvana

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Mar 14, 2019
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with all respect, i definitely understand the concerns, but why should they publish a scam adress in the official pph? it doesnt really make sense to me. they have been Publishing most scammers for n in their books, so why would they try to rip of People like that?my only hope is that we have to wait till february? in my opinion this Gadget really seems to be worth it to have a look at and at least it doesnt taste bad and you dont Need antiemetics etc..
 
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with all respect, i definitely understand the concerns, but why should they publish a scam adress in the official pph? it doesnt really make sense to me. they have been Publishing most scammers for n in their books, so why would they try to rip of People like that?my only hope is that we have to wait till february? in my opinion this Gadget really seems to be worth it to have a look at and at least it doesnt taste bad and you dont Need antiemetics etc..

Maybe the PPH has been scammed! I have had a few conversations with people now saying that it is definitely a scam. Bottom line is don't trust anyone
 
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HereToday

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Dec 27, 2019
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People are too quick to throw around the word scam. Exit International have a reputation to protect, I highly doubt they'd knowingly publish a scam in the PPH. They already make enough money without having to scam anyone
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
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I am trying to figure out if such a thing could be made. I have seen detailed CAD renderings and the theory is solid.
People are too quick to throw around the word scam. Exit International have a reputation to protect, I highly doubt they'd knowingly publish a scam in the PPH. They already make enough money without having to scam anyone
Then why the website flakiness?
 
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LucyJordan

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Dec 2, 2019
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How can people keep relying on PPH if there are so many illegal 'copies' circulating? How can you prove that this material is authentic? I am convinced that what is presented here contains a very big scam.There is a copyright on the PPH. So, respect that copyright. Don't spread fake news.
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
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I went to the site. I ordered and an email was generated confirming. A fake/undeliverable address was listed for questions. I followed their link to a shipper and provided my CC info. No confirmation was generated. No one has answered my emails of inquiry as of now and my credit card info etc are now out there. So how is it NOT a scam? Even if I don't get billed, if I never receive an item it was still fake.
 
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nirvana

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Mar 14, 2019
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I hope we can get some more clarification directly from exit. If it is a scam (and yes i agree: that site does look very edgy) it should be reported to EI. There will be another live stream About debreather in finland on 6th of february, 15 EET (Eastern European time) . i wish we were part of that EI Forum so we could watch it. Does somebody else have Access and could record it somehow? I am sure EI (they are a quite serious Organisation and Nitschkes wife even is a lawyer) do not wish to have any scams promoted in their Name. If they can varify the page and list it as a scam and subesquently provide us with the real online shop, it will be beneficial to all of us...
 
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I'd be skeptical of any mention of email addresses in user published PPH pdfs.
 
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HereToday

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I'd be skeptical of any mention of email addresses in user published PPH pdfs.
No one is talking about emails, it's sold on the right2die website. I've already stated I won't publish any future versions of the PPH (I only posted this update as I had 4 people message me asking me to), as everyone is too suspicious so they can simply buy it themselves. Problem solved
 
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No one is talking about emails, it's sold on the right2die website. I've already stated I won't publish any future versions of the PPH (I only posted this update as I had 4 people message me asking me to), as everyone is too suspicious so they can simply buy it themselves. Problem solved

You right. I just checked.

Ignore what I said. :smiling:

Thanks for your contribution!
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Nitschke/EI never reply to emails anyhow.
 
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HereToday

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Dec 27, 2019
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How can they protect their reputation if people like you spread so called copies of the book? Thanks to people like you, spreading information which is not proven to be authentic, no one knows anymore what's genuine and correct info.
LOL wtf are you even talking about? The right2die website is legit.
Thanks to people like me no one knows what's genuine info? How in the fuck did you make that one up? You know I've tried to be patient with people because I understand that scamming is a real issue, but accusing me of such bullshit is disgusting. I don't have to post anything, I do so to help people. I've always stated that people should confirm emails etc with another member who has the PPH, or even better BUY IT YOURSELF. I'm deleting this upload as well as my PPH upload, I will not spend my last days dealing with this shit when I was just trying to help people. Fuck that. You can all buy it yourselves. Goodbye
 
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nirvana

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Please do not delete it @HereToday . so many People including myself really do appreciate your help! i am sure it was a lot of work to post all of These files online. if there is some mistake in it, it definitely is not your fault. i really would like to know what happened there since i cant imagine they would just promote a dodgy site like that, but then again… it is similar with the sarco… they said it will be widely available for many People but still it is not and they Keep postponing it and only presenting it on some weird art exhibitions instead of printing more for People who really Need it..
again: if there is somebody with Access to the live stream on february 6th, it would be really great if one can record it.
I remember there once was another livestream from E.I on some Topic and somebody recorded it and uploaded it somewhere, which is really helpful for many People here… Maybe somebody like @fightingsioux could help?
thank you all for the mutual support !
 
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HereToday

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Please do not delete it @HereToday . so many People including myself really do appreciate your help! i am sure it was a lot of work to post all of These files online. if there is some mistake in it, it definitely is not your fault. i really would like to know what happened there since i cant imagine they would just promote a dodgy site like that, but then again… it is similar with the sarco… they said it will be widely available for many People but still it is not and they Keep postponing it and only presenting it on some weird art exhibitions instead of printing more for People who really Need it..
again: if there is somebody with Access to the live stream on february 6th, it would be really great if one can record it.
I remember there once was another livestream from E.I on some Topic and somebody recorded it and uploaded it somewhere, which is really helpful for many People here… Maybe somebody like @fightingsioux could help?
thank you all for the mutual support !
Sorry, it's already gone. Sorry to all the people who genuinely appreciated and made use of it without making false and unfounded accusations, but I really refuse to spend my last days dealing with this. I now understand why no one bothers to post the PPH, more trouble than it's worth. Btw the user you mentioned left this site and only uses the PPH forum now. I might join him tbh
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Oh and the number at R2D site rings to a toll-free call forwarding voicemail. No one there.
 
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HereToday

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Dec 27, 2019
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I went to the site. I ordered and an email was generated confirming. A fake/undeliverable address was listed for questions. I followed their link to a shipper and provided my CC info. No confirmation was generated. No one has answered my emails of inquiry as of now and my credit card info etc are now out there. So how is it NOT a scam? Even if I don't get billed, if I never receive an item it was still fake.
Idk if it's a scam or not, I don't work for them. I simply posted the update and that's it. If it really is a scam you can do a chargeback on your credit card.
I still find it hard to believe they'd scam people but only time will tell. I recommend everyone buys the PPH themselves, then they can come back to this thread and confirm my upload was legit.




After going back and actually reading it, the PPH states 'the R2D DeBreather is available from February 2020 at [website]'. It is currently January 2020. The urge to make a sarcastic comment about the intelligence of those who accused me of being a scammer is too strong
 
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a_strange_day

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Jul 16, 2019
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The debreather is legit and right2die too. PN was already talking about it months ago. Just wait until February like mentioned in the PPeH and the website will be fully functional. I wonder sometimes if some members aren't here just to scare people and spread rumors. Anyway it worked well, no free PPeH anymore thanks to you.

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Christ88

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The debreather is legit and right2die too. PN was already talking about it months ago. Just wait until February like mentioned in the PPeH and the website will be fully functional. I wonder sometimes if some members aren't here just to scare people and spread rumors. Anyway it worked well, no free PPeH anymore thanks to you.

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The confusion is Exits fault. The latest email update from exit says "the debreather is available to buy now from the US".
But in the PPEH it says February. I think it is real but it is a poorly designed website and EXIT has confused people with different information.
Idk if it's a scam or not, I don't work for them. I simply posted the update and that's it. If it really is a scam you can do a chargeback on your credit card.
I still find it hard to believe they'd scam people but only time will tell. I recommend everyone buys the PPH themselves, then they can come back to this thread and confirm my upload was legit.




After going back and actually reading it, the PPH states 'the R2D DeBreather is available from February 2020 at [website]'. It is currently January 2020. The urge to make a sarcastic comment about the intelligence of those who accused me of being a scammer is too strong

The confusion is Exits fault. The latest email update from exit says "the debreather is available to buy now from the US".
But in the PPEH it says February. I think it is real but it is a poorly designed website and EXIT has confused people with different information.
 
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NextBusLeaving

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The confusion is Exits fault. The latest email update from exit says "the debreather is available to buy now from the US".
But in the PPEH it says February. I think it is real but it is a poorly designed website and EXIT has confused people with different information.


The confusion is Exits fault. The latest email update from exit says "the debreather is available to buy now from the US".
But in the PPEH it says February. I think it is real but it is a poorly designed website and EXIT has confused people with different information.
Exactly. And the website should at very least offer a "shipping from February" notification or anything else. Thats all. Not saying Exit is a scam, not being ungrateful. Just relaying the experience I had trying to order. No need to insult people's intelligence either.
Also, I want to get one ASAP just to have; I have a feeling this will be a very fleeting piece of hardware once people find out or gov gets involved.

I have already seen one video where a guy was complaining about how the method is undetectable and if someone takes the device afterwards itll be easy to commit crimes with.
 
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Christ88

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Jan 7, 2020
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Exactly. And the website should at very least offer a "shipping from February" notification or anything else. Thats all. Not saying Exit is a scam, not being ungrateful. Just relaying the experience I had trying to order. No need to insult people's intelligence either.
Also, I want to get one ASAP just to have; I have a feeling this will be a very fleeting piece of hardware once people find out or gov gets involved.

I have already seen one video where a guy was complaining about how the method is undetectable and if someone takes the device afterwards itll be easy to commit crimes with.

Yes, if EXIT put February on the email and in the PPEH I wouldn't have bothered trying to buy it. They should communicate better.
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
334
Yes, if EXIT put February on the email and in the PPEH I wouldn't have bothered trying to buy it. They should communicate better.
Right. Same here. Also its not unreasonable for it to have been an "Order now! Ships Feb" situation in which case again I would order asap as I did to avoid a huge backlog.

Im from the guns and gaming world. As soon as something hints at being available you order. Otherwise theyll ban it or backorder it before you ever get yours lol
 

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