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Santiago

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I'm not sure it will help much because I purposely let it be in my mouth for some time to get a real taste of it. The worst came when you had to actually swallow it because the bitterness will stay in your throat. And if you have to down 200ml of this, I can almost guarantee that you will die with that bitterness in your throat, unless you have some strong stuff to chase it after.

I guess the lesson here is that if you are about to drink unmasked N, the waiting for death experience won't be any better from drinking some cheap household chemical. There won't be dignity in it. If you really want this to be something special and have dignity, you have to find a way to mask the taste. I would go as far as that it's worth compromising the purity and effectness of the drug. Pleasent experience, but few hours longer coma time is still better than worst dying experience ever, but fast. And if the experience is horrible, you might end up backing off or even calling for help since your survival instinct might kick in.

Though I have to mention that I don't drink alcohol too often so it might have affected my experience as well when it comes to dangerous tasting stuff.
What about putting a condom down your throat aswell?
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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First of all thank you for sharing this, it's really appreciated.

A question.. have you ever tried drinking any other medicine that comes in an ampulle?
What you're describing here sounds similar to my experience with fever reducers. I ran out and only had liquid in ampulles meant for injecting. It was next to impossible to drink those at first but then I got used to it.

And that's 5ml not 200...
Even heavily diluted in a glass of orange juice is a terrible experience. I decided to just drink it quickly instead of forcing down a glass of "rotten" juice.

Is the taste somewhat comparable? Because in this case.. drinking 200ml... damn. 100% vomiting.
I used to drink ampule medicines when I was a kid and I am still traumatized by them.

I had to google what an ampule medicine was. I've never had to do that. It doesn't sound good. :(
 
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typx

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So I thought about having a little test run with N, placed little bit of the liquid in a glass. It does smell like rubbing alcohol. First I took a little bit on my finger and tasted, it wasn't so bad, little bitter but not much. Then I took a sip and I'm sorry to tell you guys, it indeed tastes quite bitter (and that bitterness will stay in your throat for some time) and has the dangerous killing chemical essence written all over it which will alarm your survival instinct to kick in even if you were totally calm before.

So I guess point is that anybody who's planning to use this method, you really really have to find a way to mask N's taste or make it sweeter, otherwise your experience won't be nice like in those videos, it will nightmarish "I indeed just drank some dangerous chemical and I will die with a bitter taste in my mouth" type of deal. So anybody who's really dreaming about just taking a drink and simply dying happily while listening to their favorite music will be dissapointed. The unmasked taste will ruin the experience. There is no dignity in that.

Though I still say the taste wasn't unbearable or bad, like rotten food, but it simply tastes like danger. I still would prefer to die, but by using this method unmasked will be a horrible end in my book.

So... worse that Buckleys cough medicine?
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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So... worse that Buckleys cough medicine?

Something else I had to google. ;)
So is that worse than Nyquil … I can't drink that shit … have to use the gel capsules.
 
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Once the n is opened does it go rancid?
 
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What if you add liquid artificial sweetener, one of those used for diabetic / dieting people? They have super hi sweetening power with few drops. I have one that is acsulfame-k and cyclamate, a dozen of drops sweeten like a spoonful of sugar when using with coffee.
 
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Note to self: Buy bitter soda, experiment with sweetening it up. Maybe get a bit used to the taste.
 
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Thank you so much for this. I have ordered N but have not received it yet. That is my first concern. When I have it safe I will need to concentrate on how to use it. I appreciate your honest description of your experience tasting it. Your right after seeing those videos I thought It looked pretty easy. I still have to do it but I need a better plan. I'm afraid of mixing it with oj. I think oj might make me throw up because it's hard on a empty stomach. Also when my son was young he had to take a very foul tasting powder. I was told ' oh no problem just mix it with apple sauce' well it was a problem because then it just tasted like a really gross sauce!

Exactly. The problem with diluting 100ml chemical tasting drug in 200ml juice is that this produces 300ml chemical tasting drug with a hint of rotten orange.

5ml ruins 100ml to a point that I would rather just quickly drink it than diluting more and drawing out the process.

After 100ml when it gets better.

Assuming the same with nembutal it would be 20x200ml = 4L or about a gallon.

This orange juice plan is probably useless. The above data is based on anti fever meds I was testing with. Fuck I'm not going to have fever for sure drank like 5 lol

Edit:

What I gather here is we need an innovative way of cancelling out the inevitable urge of vomiting.

Or change the route of administration.

Injecting is out of the question because of the required volume.

An IV drip can be ripped out and takes a long time.

Rectal is pending, I'll try to do it with some liquid to gauge if it's theoretically possible or not. I'm afraid not because how on earth will I keep it in ... I'll get back with the results. If anyone has an idea or know how enemas work please share. According to the fetish thread someone knows what's up for sure.

That leaves us with drinking it.

For drinking we could use a condom. Cut a hole in it, hold it together with fingers, swallow it, then bam it goes straight to the stomach. I think this would be the best because the act itself is quick, deep breath, swallow, done. I'll try with 200ml and see how many condoms it takes. Will report back.

Ideally we need pentobarbital in a 300mg/ml solution, the nembutal brand seem to be one of the weakest, eg. in comparison with the local brand we got here, it has 30g in 100ml so only 50ml is needed for 15grams. That's exactly the amount that goes in a shotglass.
So theoretically it's available but A sells a rather weak product so that's what we need to work with.
 
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So I thought about having a little test run with N, placed little bit of the liquid in a glass. ... it indeed tastes quite bitter (and that bitterness will stay in your throat for some time) and has the dangerous killing chemical essence written all over it which will alarm your survival instinct to kick in even if you were totally calm before.


Thank-you-thank-you-thank-you for this. I've read something similar on other sites. I don't want the end to be more suffering--even a taste like that I'm aware of. Yesterday, someone wrote about finding a tiny bit of joy at the end of an otherwise painful life. That's what I want, to leave with some pleasure. This is only half-joking: I'm a sugarholic and wondered how to manage inducing a diabetic coma binging on sugar. I might have to become diabetic first. I'm also looking more and more into inert gas...

Again, thanks a lot for sharing the news.
 
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I think some hospitals use simple syrup for it and if I recall, PPH had the old N advertisement from the 60s or so when it was still used as a sleeping aid, the ad mentioned that it had been sweetened with something that even the children could take it easily.



It didn't. When it was down, the feeling was similiar to drinking booze without burning. And after drinking, I felt little bit dizzy, but only for 30 seconds or so. But yeah, if you go unmasked, I would guess the waiting for death experience would be pretty similiar to those who drank a lethal dose of alcohol (and started as sober). Not a nice way to go at all.

Simple syrup is very easy to make . Lots of on line recipes with sugar or honey.
 
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Interesting, I didn't open my bottles yet. I'm gonna mask the taste with orange juice and if necessary also gonna use a lidocaine spray. Members of this forum died with that method already so I doubt it's gonna be impossible. I think it's doable with some willpower. And in all honestly, I've been through shit that is thousand times worse than a bad taste. I would be extremely surprised if I couldn't do it, considering I'm desperate to die.

I know right? If you are dying how is bad taste even an issue. Its a lot to ask that the thing that is killing you taste nice as well.
 
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I know right? If you are dying how is bad taste even an issue. Its a lot to ask that the thing that is killing you taste nice as well.

Yes it's true. I was thinking the same thing. There is no nice way to end a life . It is so sad that any of us have to be in this position. I still feel N seems to be the best way. :(
 
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Perhaps eating something light but extremely spicey just before might be an option?
 
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El Topo

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So I thought about having a little test run with N, placed little bit of the liquid in a glass. It does smell like rubbing alcohol. First I took a little bit on my finger and tasted, it wasn't so bad, little bitter but not much. Then I took a sip and I'm sorry to tell you guys, it indeed tastes quite bitter (and that bitterness will stay in your throat for some time) and has the dangerous killing chemical essence written all over it which will alarm your survival instinct to kick in even if you were totally calm before.

So I guess point is that anybody who's planning to use this method, you really really have to find a way to mask N's taste or make it sweeter, otherwise your experience won't be nice like in those videos, it will nightmarish "I indeed just drank some dangerous chemical and I will die with a bitter taste in my mouth" type of deal. So anybody who's really dreaming about just taking a drink and simply dying happily while listening to their favorite music will be dissapointed. The unmasked taste will ruin the experience. There is no dignity in that.

Though I still say the taste wasn't unbearable or bad, like rotten food, but it simply tastes like danger. I still would prefer to die, but by using this method unmasked will be a horrible end in my book.

BREAKING NEWS: PENTOBARBITAL TASTES LIKE CRAP :pfff:

I'm just going to add sugar and maybe sucralose. I've tasted extremely bitter herbal teas, and sweetness can definitely help offset bitterness.
 
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oh god i wish i had that, that would be a perfect death. No drama. I wanna go out dudes.
 
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Maybe the liquid N's taste differs to the powder N, when I had a few sleep tests with the powder I did find that it was bitter, but I did expect a worse taste. Probably only had about a gram in approx 20-30ml of water immediately washed down with some scotch.
 
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Maybe the liquid N's taste differs to the powder N, when I had a few sleep tests with the powder I did find that it was bitter, but I did expect a worse taste. Probably only had about a gram in approx 20-30ml of water immediately washed down with some scotch.

If you mixed 1 gram in 20-30 ml water, that's nearly identical to the ratio in the liquid N.

I haven't done a taste test, and yes, N has a reputation for tasting horrible, but most pharmaceuticals taste bad. Opiates and some benzos are extremely bitter when chewed up, and I've taken extremely bitter herbal medicines. Bitter herbs and vegetables are a normal part of traditional human diets; it's only in modern times that people eat nothing but sweet, fatty, savory foods, sothat might be one reason why some people have such a difficult time with the taste.
 
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Okay, I put about 5-10ml in a glass and added some orange juice, like 50ml. Though I did the error of buying orange juice that wasn't sweetened enough. I took a sip and the bitterness still came through, it was little bit softer though, got caught in your throught though. Then I added two big spoons on sugar, it seemed to help the case. You can taste the bitterness at that start, but it's doable and the bitterness doesn't really stay in your throat.

I do have to mention that at first I felt dizzy after two sips, like being too really drunk but after 15 mins or so, I felt like after a few drinks. So you might not need alcohol or benzos to calm your down, just take a few sips, wait 15 minutes and you're basically drunk, then drink the rest. Though remember that if you drink all, the feeling probably won't be like falling asleep, it will be more like drinking too much and passing out. It feels like the liquid goes straight to your brain.
 
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Though remember that if you drink all, the feeling probably won't be like falling asleep, it will be more like drinking too much and passing out.

Thanks for updating us--very helpful. That's both brave and selfless of you.
 
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First I took a little bit on my finger and tasted, it wasn't so bad, little bitter but not much. Then I took a sip and I'm sorry to tell you guys, it indeed tastes quite bitter (and that bitterness will stay in your throat for some time) and has the dangerous killing chemical essence written all over it which will alarm your survival instinct to kick in even if you were totally calm before.

Death has a bitter taste, it would be foolish to think otherwise. If you want to end your journey, empty the holy graal before it expires.

"The bottle should only be fully opened [...] when the drug is either ready to be used or it is to be discarded." (PPeH)
 
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Okay, I put about 5-10ml in a glass and added some orange juice, like 50ml. Though I did the error of buying orange juice that wasn't sweetened enough. I took a sip and the bitterness still came through, it was little bit softer though, got caught in your throught though. Then I added two big spoons on sugar, it seemed to help the case. You can taste the bitterness at that start, but it's doable and the bitterness doesn't really stay in your throat.

I do have to mention that at first I felt dizzy after two sips, like being too really drunk but after 15 mins or so, I felt like after a few drinks. So you might not need alcohol or benzos to calm your down, just take a few sips, wait 15 minutes and you're basically drunk, then drink the rest. Though remember that if you drink all, the feeling probably won't be like falling asleep, it will be more like drinking too much and passing out. It feels like the liquid goes straight to your brain.


Did the sugar dissolve? That is a lot of sugar for just a little amount. I wonder how much would be needed for a whole bottle or two bottles? The simple syrup made from sugar or honey might be a very good idea!
 
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Okay, tool a 3rd time after added some more sugar. It's really doable now even though the bitterness kinda comes through. The best way I would decribe would bean an extra bitter beer be that you haven't washed down yo yet

I am seeing double now. Relly tells you how strong this stuff is, I only took 3 sips.


Did the sugar dissolve? That is a lot of sugar for just a little amount. I wonder how much would be needed for a whole bottle or two bottles? The simple syrup made from sugar or honey might be a very good idea!

It mostly did, but you can also look for other sweeteners.

But the honest, even if yoy put 200ml into 1l it still probably would kill you, that's my guess t least.
 
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Okay, tool a 3rd time after added some more sugar. It's really doable now even though the bitterness kinda comes through. The best way I would decribe would bean an extra bitter beer be that you haven't washed down yo yet

I am seeing double now. Relly tells you how strong this stuff is, I only took 3 sips.




It mostly did, but you can also look for other sweeteners.

But the honest, even if yoy put 200ml into 1l it still probably would kill you, that's my guess t least.

It's obviously working because this post has many typos compared to your previous post. :pfff:
 
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It's obviously working because this post has many typos compared to your previous post. :pfff:

Lol I noticed that too. No more sips!!
Geeze I hope I can get two bottles down if I'm lucky enough to receive them .
 
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Okay, I put about 5-10ml in a glass and added some orange juice, like 50ml. Though I did the error of buying orange juice that wasn't sweetened enough. I took a sip and the bitterness still came through, it was little bit softer though, got caught in your throught though. Then I added two big spoons on sugar, it seemed to help the case. You can taste the bitterness at that start, but it's doable and the bitterness doesn't really stay in your throat.

I do have to mention that at first I felt dizzy after two sips, like being too really drunk but after 15 mins or so, I felt like after a few drinks. So you might not need alcohol or benzos to calm your down, just take a few sips, wait 15 minutes and you're basically drunk, then drink the rest. Though remember that if you drink all, the feeling probably won't be like falling asleep, it will be more like drinking too much and passing out. It feels like the liquid goes straight to your brain.

Thank you for being so informative, I'm still waiting My N to arrive. I'm also concerned about the bitterness, I hate beer, ales, etc. So it will be a challenge to get 200ml down me. Do you feel any pain in your stomach or anywhere when you take it?
 
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Do you feel any pain in your stomach or anywhere when you take it?

No, though I did have that feeling when you are nervous and your stomach is a mess, but it wasn't there the 3rd I took a sip. So it was probably due being nervous.
 
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No, though I did have that feeling when you are nervous and your stomach is a mess, but it wasn't there the 3rd I took a sip. So it was probably due being nervous.

Ah take it easy on your sips mate, you don't want to build tolerance for it. How many bottles of N did you get? Best of luck if I don't hear from you :)
 
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Ah take it easy on your sips mate, you don't want to build tolerance for it. How many bottles of N did you get? Best of luck if I don't hear from you :)

I got two bottles. And nah, the sips weren't that big and it was all mixed in juice, but that just shows you how strong this stuff is. I'm pretty sure the tolerance thing is way overplayed because people who used this as sleeping aid and died probably had taken it regularly.

I might add that I slept for like 16 hours, woke up in the middle, but had to continue. It was like normal sleep though. And now 24 hours later, I still kinda feel the effect. So I have a gut feeling that even one bottle would be enough.
 
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