Surviving Nembutal

[secoma]

But here is story of guy who survived 15g of N and has been found after 36 hours without medical care:
https://suicideproject.org/2017/01/somehow-i-survived-15g-of-nembutal/

The article says that he didn't vomit, so not taking meto isn't the reason he survived.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

it's a fake story by the anti-choice brigade trying to scare us into not doing this method. the website is full of stories like this!

I sometimes wonder if there are anti-choice people here who promote myths about methods just to scare people off.

 

[Vidar33]

The article says that he didn't vomit, so not taking meto isn't the reason he survived.

I read the PPH and watched the videos and all: to me it seems impossible to survive 15 mg. Perhaps he would have passed away a few hours later, if he had not been found? And why did the office initiated a wellfare visit to his house? And which authority authorized to break down the door? I mean, what was going there in the first place?!

 

[NOT]

Sounds like a pro-lifer.

 

[Mysterymeat]

Can anyone tell me the medication interactions with N that could interfere with its efficacy? I'm on a lot of meds and I wonder what will harm and what will help. Thanks.

 

[deathenvoy]

Can anyone tell me the medication interactions with N that could interfere with its efficacy? I'm on a lot of meds and I wonder what will harm and what will help. Thanks.

Antipsychotics can prolong comatose state.
Dependency on any substance that affects GABA neurotransmitters (benzo, barbiturates, gbl) can make N less effective.

 

[Menschenfeind]

Antipsychotics can prolong comatose state.
Dependency on any substance that affects GABA neurotransmitters (benzo, barbiturates, gbl) can make N less effective.

That´s good to know, thanks! So the last days without meds should do the trick?

 

[Vidar33]

That´s good to know, thanks! So the last days without meds should do the trick?

Some here mentioned at least a few weeks w/o in order to prevent any umwelcomed interaction.

 

[Menschenfeind]

Some here mentioned at least a few weeks w/o in order to prevent any umwelcomed interaction.

Thanks! I guess I´ll pause my medication when the N arrives and see how long I can stand it without meds.

 

[Mysterymeat]

Antipsychotics can prolong comatose state.
Dependency on any substance that affects GABA neurotransmitters (benzo, barbiturates, gbl) can make N less effective.

I wonder if 1mg of klonopin a day would make much of a difference. I guess I'd have to take more.

 

[Tomey]

I wonder if 1mg of klonopin a day would make much of a difference. I guess I'd have to take more.

I also take 1 mg klonopin.
It is a low dose but i don't know ...
I don't want to have withdrawal symptoms at my last weeks, its really sucks !!!

 

[Menschenfeind]

I also take 1 mg klonopin.
It is a low dose but i don't know ...
I don't want to have withdrawal symptoms at my last weeks, its really sucks !!!

Yeah, I tried to withdraw for 5-6 days. Couldn´t stand the outcoming symptoms. I´m on 150mg venlafaxine, 30mg mirtazapine and some natural sedatives. Does that count as significant?

 

[Asta]

In regard to the bitter taste of the N, a mouthwash called "Botot" numbs the tongue so the N is easier to take (perhaps whiskey would have the same effect?). FYI, six people that I know of on the Exit forum used N successfully between 2013 and 2015. Most used 12 to 15 grams and one used 18. Three lived alone, two went to a hotel and I don't know about one, but they all made sure they were undisturbed and had plenty of time. It took one person 3 to 5 minutes to fall asleep and 45 to exit. When they were gone, I either talked to a family member and/or read their obituaries. It was very sad.

Question: What is "meto"? Several people used Motilium/Domperidone for the antiemetic. One even used Dramamine.

 

[pane]

Asta, "meto" is metoclopramide. It's also an anti-emetic commonly sold under the name "Primperan".

Are you currently a member of the Exit forum?

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

In regard to the bitter taste of the N, a mouthwash called "Botot" numbs the tongue so the N is easier to take (perhaps whiskey would have the same effect?). FYI, six people that I know of on the Exit forum used N successfully between 2013 and 2015. Most used 12 to 15 grams and one used 18. Three lived alone, two went to a hotel and I don't know about one, but they all made sure they were undisturbed and had plenty of time. It took one person 3 to 5 minutes to fall asleep and 45 to exit. When they were gone, I either talked to a family member and/or read their obituaries. It was very sad.

Question: What is "meto"? Several people used Motilium/Domperidone for the antiemetic. One even used Dramamine.

Did any of these people specify their weight by any chance? The one who took 3 N probably weighed over 90KG(its recommended to take 3 N for someone over 90KG).

Also, I presume you are talking about this mouthwash?

https://www.archerhardgoods.com/products/botot-mouthwash

Thanks.

 

[Asta]

Did any of these people specify their weight by any chance? The one who took 3 N probably weighed over 90KG(its recommended to take 3 N for someone over 90KG).

Also, I presume you are talking about this mouthwash?

https://www.archerhardgoods.com/products/botot-mouthwash

Thanks.

You're very welcome :) Yes, to the mouthwash. I don't know their weight, sorry; but none of them were overweight, judging by their pictures. No one took 3 N. She had 18 grams of the powder, just to be extra sure, but no liquid. I've read that a person can take too much N, which can lead to nausea; but I believe the pph or Nitschke states that vomiting is rare.

Asta, "meto" is metoclopramide. It's also an anti-emetic commonly sold under the name "Primperan".

Are you currently a member of the Exit forum?

Thanks for the reply, and no, I'm not a member now. For one thing, it costs about $80 for two years and when they decided to not let members contact each other, plus removing all earlier, valuable posts from the site - well, there didn't seem to be any point since I had all the info I needed and then could no longer be of help to anyone because we weren't allowed personal messages. This SS site is so much better and we have so much more freedom!

 

[jake3d]

Yeah, I tried to withdraw for 5-6 days. Couldn´t stand the outcoming symptoms. I´m on 150mg venlafaxine, 30mg mirtazapine and some natural sedatives. Does that count as significant?

Reduce your doses instead of trying to withdraw cold turkey.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

You're very welcome :) Yes, to the mouthwash. I don't know their weight, sorry; but none of them were overweight, judging by their pictures. No one took 3 N. She had 18 grams of the powder, just to be extra sure, but no liquid. I've read that a person can take too much N, which can lead to nausea; but I believe the pph or Nitschke states that vomiting is rare.

Oh ok, no problem. I appreciate the reply! I weigh around 106kg, and will be taking 3 N, each 100mL solution contains 6.3g of the lethal drug.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

Survival after fatal pentobarbital ingestion

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is a medical article with some jargon on someone who survived 13g overdose. It doesnt say how much he weighed however it took a week to stabilize him. That gives an inkling of how fatal the stuff is. Fortunately there was no brain damage.

 

[rata1]

Could anyone explain what happens if surviving n: are there long-term damages, braindamage, dependance or what else?

 

[deathenvoy]

One report of overdose claims that N has neuroprotective properties so it won't cause brain damage in case of survival.

 

[Roger]

I sometimes wonder if there are anti-choice people here who promote myths about methods just to scare people off.

I consider that almost certain to be the case.

But on the other side of the same coin there may also be people who try to encourage attempts by giving false accounts of how easy and painless some methods are.

 

[Jumper]

I dont, except when this forum ends up on television.
Thats way I try to educate myself.
With books not google.
And I go with best percentage, mathematics.

So what are the actual stats for N?

 

[Theon]

How much Nembutal do you have to take for it to "work"?

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

How much Nembutal do you have to take for it to "work"?

It depends on many factors.

1. Your weight, primarily.
2. If you are on any stimulants, an alcoholic, or on anti-psychotic drugs.
3. The Amount you take.

 

[Theon]

It depends on many factors.

1. Your weight, primarily.
2. If you are on any stimulants, an alcoholic, or on anti-psychotic drugs.
3. The Amount you take.

I weigh 160 lbs. and take Seroquel (quetiapine)

 

[lone3wolf7]

It depends on many factors.

1. Your weight, primarily.
2. If you are on any stimulants, an alcoholic, or on anti-psychotic drugs.
3. The Amount you take.

I weigh less than 60kg , but an alcoholic... does that change anything ?? Will 2 X N be enough ??

 

[Ruffian]

It depends on many factors.

1. Your weight, primarily.
2. If you are on any stimulants, an alcoholic, or on anti-psychotic drugs.
3. The Amount you take.

This. This. And This. I've typed out longer responses 4 times now and deleted all of them. Know yourself and know the drugs you take. Don't let anyone on SS or any other forum tell you how a drug will effect you. Research it yourself on some drug websites or even an online pharmacy site or Wikipedia. And even then you'll have some hard decisions to make. It's not like you can ask your family physician to help you kill yourself. And drugs don't always work like they're supposed to. But if this were Vegas and I had a 10 mg a day diazepam habit I'd still put 98% of my shit on winning with N.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

I weigh less than 60kg , but an alcoholic... does that change anything ?? Will 2 X N be enough ??

You might want to stop drinking if you want N to work properly. And with your weight, 2N will be enough. BUT, you need to stop drinking alcohol, otherwise it will be pointless of a purchase and won't work as well.

I weigh 160 lbs. and take Seroquel (quetiapine)

You might want to stop taking that drug before ingesting N, otherwise it won't work. With your weight 2N will be enough, but you also need an anti emetic. So you don't vomit.

 

[Theon]

You might want to stop drinking if you want N to work properly. And with your weight, 2N will be enough. BUT, you need to stop drinking alcohol, otherwise it will be pointless of a purchase and won't work as well.


You might want to stop taking that drug before ingesting N, otherwise it won't work. With your weight 2N will be enough, but you also need an anti emetic. So you don't vomit.

Thank you. How long before do you need to stop taking the Seroquel? I was searching for interactions between the two and can't find something online.