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Suicide prevention walk
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In my area they had a Suicide Prevention walk to raise awareness yesterday. A part of me thinks its sweet that people cared and showed up to raise awareness but the cynical side of me thinks how pointless it is. What exactly is it going to do to prevent future suicides? What do you guys think?
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heliophobic, Tac0Johnz, CatLvr and 15 others
I think it's good that it's getting visibility, that we're talking about it. But I doubt that the people present at this march could support us, pro choice. In societal discourse, it is always possible to heal, to find a solution blah blah blah...rather than committing suicide.
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Moniker, SonicFan1994, Bear1234 and 8 others
they're preventing suicide as much as possible without ever considering how the person feels in the first place. their purpose is to not strike a conversation about the topic of suicide from a suicidal person, it's to absolutely stop it while treating said person like their choice doesn't matter.
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Moniker, Tac0Johnz, Joarga and 14 others
it's virtue signalling and nothing of substance, in my opinion. they'll still perpetuate the idea that anyone who commits suicide or is suicidal has no agency, is "vulnerable", is irrational, or is being manipulated (it's why they blame SaSu for suicides, and not the people who chose to kill themselves). they'll also happily do anything in their power to prevent you from making decisions about your own body and life, including involuntary imprisonment in a psych ward and forced drugging (which the UN classifies as human rights violations btw).
the act of suicide was viewed much more appropriately before the late 19th century (the advent of psychiatry...) despite the condemnation of it by religious institutions, cause at least back then they'd acknowledge that you had agency and made your own decision, and that your struggles weren't the result of some "disease" or "condition" but rather real genuine circumstances that led you to that point. and seemingly counter-intuitively, the same goes for the fact that attempting suicide was a crime back then. this adds proof to the fact that suicide was seen as an act of volition, rather than the result of something they can blame it on/explain away like mental illness.
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Moniker, pthnrdnojvsc, LifeQuitter and 11 others
I always think these prevention days/weeks are so disingenuious. They have no interest in listening to our reasons for ctb, to them we are all fixable. I would like to see more suicide awareness days where people explain that we have the right to choose our own deaths and not be forced to carry on being miserable or in pain and suffering just to keep them happy. It would be nice if people could understand we don't all want to be here, and therefore we must be all automatically mentally ill
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Peerless_Cucumber, Moniker, Bear1234 and 9 others
People like to feel like their contributing to a perceived problem, while not actually doing so. They do stupid things like have posters, and advertisements, where they tell you of all the supposed benefits of life, and all the supposed down sides to death. The people whom attend these events or post about them online, are doing nothing to actually stop this so called issue, which is by design of course. They want to feel like their helping without actually putting in the time to do so in the first place. It merely just to gain social credit as to boost ones standing in society, and to allow for a sense of arrogant superiority over those who, They perceive as doing nothing to help the cause they seem to care so much about.
These event never actually prevent suicides, I have never heard of life being preserved, from any one suicidal person seeing a stop suicide poster, rather I have read that in some instances, it actually brings back passive suicidal ideations, as you are constantly reminded of suicide.
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Moniker, davidtorez, heavyeyes and 3 others
I was thinking about that too and idk maybe I have a bitter view of it, but literally what is walking going to do? At this point what is awareness even going to do? It's not going to change the actual issue and it's not an actual solution. It seems like another way for them to do the bare freaking minimum and give themselves a clap in the back for absolutely nothing. The thought doesn't count anymore. It was good enough back when times were different and people didn't have the internet to learn about all of these things, but times have changed and people are ending their lives more and the solution haven't improved whatsoever. We're still working with the same solutions and doing the same minimal effort to bring "change."
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Moniker, TapeMachine, heavyeyes and 2 others
In my area they had a Suicide Prevention walk to raise awareness yesterday. A part of me thinks its sweet that people cared and showed up to raise awareness but the cynical side of me thinks how pointless it is. What exactly is it going to do to prevent future suicides? What do you guys think?
It feels like more of awareness and healing from loss more than anything else.
While we have the right to die, it's inevitable that for many of us, we have people who love us (including those who say "I won't be missed"). These events are hosted or participated by people who, often in good faith, want to spread awareness about suicide with the aim to prevent, especially if they're personally affected.
It's done in good faith, but it's often misunderstood. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware about suicide. We all know our country's hotlines, we all know where to get help if we want it. These events personally make me uncomfortable, it's "I'm doing my part!" when it's really a person's blanket for self healing or making themselves feel better about themselves.
I actually feel bad for them, really, because they do genuinely feel like they're doing the right thing.
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noairtobreathe1, Moniker, Bear1234 and 5 others
It feels like more of awareness and healing from loss more than anything else.
While we have the right to die, it's inevitable that for many of us, we have people who love us (including those who say "I won't be missed"). These events are hosted or participated by people who, often in good faith, want to spread awareness about suicide with the aim to prevent, especially if they're personally affected.
It's done in good faith, but it's often misunderstood. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware about suicide. We all know our country's hotlines, we all know where to get help if we want it. These events personally make me uncomfortable, it's "I'm doing my part!" when it's really a person's blanket for self healing or making themselves feel better about themselves.
I actually feel bad for them, really, because they do genuinely feel like they're doing the right thing.
Everything is done to 'raise awareness', but raising awareness does nothing. Everyone is already aware that suicide rates are increasing. It's just a distraction to excuse the lack of actual action. Unless full scale societal change is implemented, which would require actual continuous effort, nothing will change.
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Moniker, wCvML2, heavyeyes and 2 others
"Gesture" is a fitting word here... A simple gesture for an extremely complex matter.
I would like to believe most people's hearts are in the right place with this. But the lack of follow-through on the real issues is very discouraging.
More funding to mental healthcare, more accessibility, improved disability supports, efforts to reduce stigma, awareness campaigns for employers and educational institutions, etc.
I'd rather we go even deeper than that and look at addressing some of our fundamental societal problems as a means of alleviating life factors that contribute to a person's development of mental illness in the first place. But I know that's not happening right now, so I'd settle for addressing those above-mentioned issues.
Have the walk. OK. But let's see some follow-through.
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NoPoint2Life, heavyeyes, not-2-b-the-answer and 1 other person
nihilistic_dragon
Dead already. Just need to dispose of my body now.
The real problem is that they do absolutely nothing to help with the real issues.
Poverty
Mental Health
Stress
Bullying
Not wanting to stay alive for 80+ years
Being alone
Evil people who intentionally f**k up someone else's life.
Incurable diseases
You can't even discuss the topic without fear of being locked up. They say you can but.....
You can't even really joke about the topic without dirty looks.
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Moniker, LifeQuitter, davidtorez and 2 others
I think not just this specific march, but most if all "marches" are quite pointless and fail to move the needle in culture whatsoever. Feels disingenuous and virtue signally to me. Not to say that none of them care at all, but the whole idea of marches and awareness spreading on causes just seem futile and self aggrandizing a bit to me often.
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Moniker, TapeMachine, LifeQuitter and 2 others
It makes me laugh. If people could accomplish anything by walking we'd all be millionaires. It's not a protest. People aren't collectively going on strike against smth. This does nothing. Just wish people would get off their high horse of saving others and let people choose.
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Moniker, TapeMachine, wCvML2 and 3 others
I guess, each to their own and I'm sure the majority of people on those walks mean well but- I don't want anyone preventing my suicide. That's the last thing I want! It's my way out of this shit show! I'd prefer it if they had prevented my birth but, I know antinatilism isn't such a popular cause.
It's kind of weird on the face of it when you think about it though. Unless they are supporting charities that actively try to improve people's lives, their focus is on the very last hurdle. So it's like- let's march to keep people trapped in their misery here. Let's not bother about how they might get better. Let's just assume they will if we keep them hostage here long enough. I doubt they see it like that but really- without looking at why people become suicidal, that is effectively what they're doing.
It would be like protesting at a battery chicken farm that the chickens get killed. Nevermind that the conditions they live in are awful- just keep them alive for as long as possible because- life is so precious.
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Moniker, TapeMachine, divinemistress87 and 4 others
In my opinion that's quite insulting, if they really cared they would ask suicidal people what they think and what they want. But no, it's all about prevention and pathetic protests to show how much they are disgusted by suicide. Seriously, do they actually think a suicidal person is going to react well to being treated like an object.
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divinemistress87 and pthnrdnojvsc
nihilistic_dragon
Dead already. Just need to dispose of my body now.
The real problem is that they do absolutely nothing to help with the real issues.
Poverty
Mental Health
Stress
Bullying
Not wanting to stay alive for 80+ years
Being alone
Evil people who intentionally f**k up someone else's life.
Incurable diseases
You can't even discuss the topic without fear of being locked up. They say you can but.....
You can't even really joke about the topic without dirty looks.
And the most important of them all, LIFE IS MEANINGLESS. They keep inventing meaning because misery loves company, but the truth is there isn't any and they don't wish to admit it and let people go.
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not-2-b-the-answer, divinemistress87, NoPoint2Life and 1 other person
It's a money grab. Research "not-for-profit" organizations. Not just "... Awareness Walks" but pet shelters, large and small, Cancer Awareness -- Awareness ANYTHING for that matter.
I would like to tell these morons doing a suicide prevention walk
1. Do u idiots understand that every human is going to do die anyway ?
2. Anyone can fall into a trap of unending constant unbearable pain and need a way out of that nightmare. In many cases the only way out is suicide. You idiots are keeping that person in torture you are the torturers
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