Discussion So, what happens when this site is eventually taken down?

[CesiumBullet]

The war against the right to die is getting worse. They came after our N, went after opioid-prescribing doctors, hand out dangerous "wellness checks," and now SN is becoming just as impossible to source. The only options they're letting us have are violent and messy. Just 10 years ago the internet used to have pro-ana, silk road, r/SanctionedSuicide... But now it's been made clear: our bodies don't belong to us.

So what do we do when our right to expression gets its final nail in the coffin? It might not be tomorrow, this year, or this decade, but there will come a day that SS becomes censored. Will we just be doomed to a life of a somehow amplified abject loneliness until our eventual, or not-so-eventual, deaths? Though I don't post much, this is one of the only communities where I truly feel free, and I fear its annihilation.

 

[Blueberry Panic]

Something new will always pop up , people will always find a way to ctb with or without help

 

[leloyon]

First there was alt.suicide.holiday, then there was the subreddit, now there's this website.
8chan used to have a /suicide/ board, though it didn't come back when the 8kun rebrand happened.
LostAllHope has still been around for god knows how long.
Books detailing suicide methods have been around for decades.

This site isn't the one and only hope, just as we were hardly the first, I doubt we will be the last. This site clearly has a demand, something new will crop up.

 

[nullsoul]

다른 사이트를 어떻게 찾지요?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This site, along with ANY other controversial US site, enjoys First Amendment "Freedom Of Speech" protections. It can be blocked in other countries through the passage of laws (ex UK), but not in the US. This website itself is breaking no laws. If YOU partake in some illegal activity on, or somehow through this site, such as supplying someone with material support to end their life, or assisting someone to end their life, that is ON YOU. You should reread the rules.

 

[setspiritfree]

The war against the right to die is getting worse. They came after our N, went after opioid-prescribing doctors, hand out dangerous "wellness checks," and now SN is becoming just as impossible to source. The only options they're letting us have are violent and messy. Just 10 years ago the internet used to have pro-ana, silk road, r/SanctionedSuicide... But now it's been made clear: our bodies don't belong to us.

So what do we do when our right to expression gets its final nail in the coffin? It might not be tomorrow, this year, or this decade, but there will come a day that SS becomes censored. Will we just be doomed to a life of a somehow amplified abject loneliness until our eventual, or not-so-eventual, deaths? Though I don't post much, this is one of the only communities where I truly feel free, and I fear its annihilation.

Is it "our bodies, our right" or does it just pertain to abortion? There I said it. I hope it doesn't get me banned as this is the only resource I have at the moment. It should be a grown adults decision? I wish it were easier. I would be gone if I could just take something that would make me fall asleep and never wake up. I would be doing everyone a favor.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

This site, along with ANY other controversial US site, enjoys First Amendment "Freedom Of Speech" protections. It can be blocked in other countries through the passage of laws (ex UK), but not in the US. This website itself is breaking no laws. If YOU partake in some illegal activity on, or somehow through this site, such as supplying someone with material support to end their life, or assisting someone to end their life, that is ON YOU. You should reread the rules.

This site will cease to exist someday, no matter what. Ten minutes, ten years, ten million years from now. Nothing is timeless.

 

[lurk]

Nothing ever happens, this site will just move elsewhere. Most websites let go by their registrars for speech related issues have moved to .st and .top TLDs. SS admins need to fix their onion site.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

First there was alt.suicide.holiday, then there was the subreddit, now there's this website.
8chan used to have a /suicide/ board, though it didn't come back when the 8kun rebrand happened.
LostAllHope has still been around for god knows how long.
Books detailing suicide methods have been around for decades.

This site isn't the one and only hope, just as we were hardly the first, I doubt we will be the last. This site clearly has a demand, something new will crop up.

Man, to think about how long LostAllHope has been around makes me realize how long I've been fucking miserable. Anyone else remember a website, I think it was called metanoia or something like that, which used to be one of the first Google results when you searched about suicide? It had this old 00s internet look and I'll always remember that it had a picture of a scale and said that suicide ideation came when people had more troubles than resources to solve them or something along those lines.

Any way, yeah, people will always find the way. And it'll be a sad day when this site is taken down because people who were heard here won't be heard anywhere else. There are people who found a little dignity here, talking with people who finally offered them empathy and going out in their own terms, they finally found something life denied them. And some people will be denied that, they'll probably end up either killing themselves in a painful and gruesome manner or attempting in a dangerous way that'll only cause them more pain. Ironic how so-called pro-lifers insist in shutting down a place that may not be perfect, but it's a haven for people who've been mistreated their whole lives.

 

[bleedxi]

But now it's been made clear: our bodies don't belong to us.

nope of course they don't, society needs our bodies – they belong to the capitalist regime in order to keep making rich people richer

 

[MicahBell]

This site, along with ANY other controversial US site, enjoys First Amendment "Freedom Of Speech" protections. It can be blocked in other countries through the passage of laws (ex UK), but not in the US. This website itself is breaking no laws. If YOU partake in some illegal activity on, or somehow through this site, such as supplying someone with material support to end their life, or assisting someone to end their life, that is ON YOU. You should reread the rules.

tbf the US government has been taking down government web pages of black people who fought in wars and deporting people for not speaking english. The first amendment only protects us in so far as the ruling class chooses to uphold it. which is, not much lol

 

[Galahad]

Nothing ever happens, this site will just move elsewhere. Most websites let go by their registrars for speech related issues have moved to .st and .top TLDs. SS admins need to fix their onion site.

This .onion link works:

http://suicidffbey666ur5gspccbcw2zc7yoat34wbybqa3boei6bysflbvqd.onion/

 

[lurk]

This .onion link works:

http://suicidffbey666ur5gspccbcw2zc7yoat34wbybqa3boei6bysflbvqd.onion/

Oh okay, the one listed in their onion-location header is outdated x_X

 

[barelyholdingon]

I'd like to believe the admins would give us some kind of a warning before that happened. If the site gets shut down a power vacuum would open lmao, a new site would rise from the ashes. There's probably many more forums like this hidden out there that few know about

 

[Douggy82]

This site, along with ANY other controversial US site, enjoys First Amendment "Freedom Of Speech" protections. It can be blocked in other countries through the passage of laws (ex UK), but not in the US. This website itself is breaking no laws. If YOU partake in some illegal activity on, or somehow through this site, such as supplying someone with material support to end their life, or assisting someone to end their life, that is ON YOU. You should reread the rules.

. Good one.

 

[FadingSnowFake]

We find another site hopefully, and if SN is no longer an option, we find alternative means. Would be sad if it happens though.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

. Good one.

Laugh if you want, but it's fact. If it weren't, the site would have already been taken down. Why do you think all the "hate" sites (and there are MANY) are still up in the US? Freedom of speech is sacrosanct as far as government intervention, anyway. It doesn't apply to private entities.

tbf the US government has been taking down government web pages of black people who fought in wars and deporting people for not speaking english. The first amendment only protects us in so far as the ruling class chooses to uphold it. which is, not much lol

First off, that's not the same thing at all. If the government controls those webpages, they can take them down if they want. Not saying it's right, but if they run them, they can take them down. No different if the administrator of this site decides to shut SASU down. That's their right. Neither has anything to do with the government censoring privately ran websites by shutting them down.

 

[socksnsandles]

is there any backup site or reddit or discord or something like that for now?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This site will cease to exist someday, no matter what. Ten minutes, ten years, ten million years from now. Nothing is timeless.

And your point is???????¿ There's a difference between something occuring organically, and something occuring "synthetically", such as through force.

 

[X-sanguinate86]

A backup site would be good but reddit and discord are not privacy-focussed.

 

[eternalpace]

is there any backup site or reddit or discord or something like that for now?

I wouldn't look to Reddit as a safe haven. I continue to think that it's only a matter of time before r/suicidewatch is closed.

 

[ForestGhost]

Nobody will ever commit suicide again

 

[Antyquel]

I doubt this site will ever be taken down, more likely it'll just stop being run once whoever owns it decides to pull the plug. There will definitely be other forums or platforms that will take its place and allows open suicide discussion

 

[penguinl0v3s]

History is reactive, it won't always be authoritarian. Ideas always swings back and forth from one end to another and back again.

Rain has done a great job protecting this site. It's been DDOSed and yet it's still alive.

 

[kunikuzushi]

First there was alt.suicide.holiday, then there was the subreddit, now there's this website.
8chan used to have a /suicide/ board, though it didn't come back when the 8kun rebrand happened.
LostAllHope has still been around for god knows how long.
Books detailing suicide methods have been around for decades.

This site isn't the one and only hope, just as we were hardly the first, I doubt we will be the last. This site clearly has a demand, something new will crop up.

I completely forgot about the subreddit. I thought this site was my first interaction with sasu, but I remember being on that subreddit about 6 or 7 years ago.

 

[RimeOfTheAncient]

A new different site will pop up, hopefully all the info on the megathreads are saved enough places they get posted again. This reminds me I should save a few of the ones that are more technical like the SN testing one.