SN method 2025

[AnotherSadDay]

Thank you for sharing. I received my SN today, and was feeling really happy but now sort of deflated seeing it go a bit lower in regards to how peaceful it is. Did they give any reasoning as to why that is?

To be fair, in the 2022 version the N2 method also had a 7 score of peacefulness, which would make it equal to SN and the N2 method makes you sleep without feeling, so I don't know how they define that score in particular.

 

[APeacefulPlace]

Thank you for sharing. I received my SN today, and was feeling really happy but now sort of deflated seeing it go a bit lower in regards to how peaceful it is. Did they give any reasoning as to why that is?

Unfortunately, they did not, perhaps I may have missed it, you can now check for yourself on this thread.

 

[Fire&Ash]

Hello, glad to share my input as I do have access to the most recent PPEH via membership. There are four notable changes,

1. The Use of B Blocker Propranolol has now been advised, specific dose is 400mg, taken 40 mins prior to SN intake.
2. Additional section called " Analogues " explores SN counterparts that are equally effective and more accessible, that is Potassium Nitrite ( KNO2 ), other nitrites that may offer significant end of life potential includes calcium nitrite, barium nitrite and lithium nitrite none of which are subject to specific restriction.
3. Second additional section called " Eye Witness Accounts " confirms more than 40 nitrite deaths, all were reported peaceful.
4. SN downgraded from 7 to 6 in terms of Peacefulness on the RP Table.

The rest of the section remained the same. Hope you find everything you're looking for.

Hi can you explain why propranolol is being advised? Is it for the tachycardia? What is the regime? SN, a benzo, a meto and some otc pain killer

 

[APeacefulPlace]

Hi can you explain why propranolol is being advised? Is it for the tachycardia? What is the regime? SN, a benzo, a meto and some otc pain killer

PPH January 2025

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Reading this thread will answer all your questions. Hope you find everything you're looking for.

 

[paparoach]

PPH January 2025

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Reading this thread will answer all your questions. Hope you find everything you're looking for.

Everyone should be reading the update, it need's stickied.

Hi can you explain why propranolol is being advised? Is it for the tachycardia? What is the regime? SN, a benzo, a meto and some otc pain killer

B-Blockers Controvery

It has also been argued that sodium nitrite can be made more lethal by the concurrent administration of a B-Blocker like propranolol. Is is argued that because there is a compesatory cardiac response to nitrite-induced cerebral hypoxia in the form of an increased heart rate (tachycardia) as well as an increase in caridac output, the B-block will frustrate this. It wil also prevent tachycardia and speed death. A dose of 400mg of propranolol taken with the antiemetic (metoclopramide) has been advised.

Some reports have suggested that while the use of a B-Blcoker may alleviate the uncomfortabled sensation fo a racing heart (tachycardia) before LOC, its use may also prevent the increased oxygen demand of the heart and slow death from cardia arrest. Until more information is available, the benefite (or otherwise) of using a B-Block cannot be established.

 

[Eudaimonic]

That's why I believe the concentration of SN in Water/ml for PPHB is double to that of Stan's Guide.

I'm confused by this statement. I hadn't heard anything about the PPH doubling the recommendation, but assuming that's true, that seems counterproductive, as it would make vomiting more likely.

Edit: misread

 

[paparoach]

I'm confused by this statement. I hadn't heard anything about the PPH doubling the recommendation, but assuming that's true, there seem to me two issues with using 100 mL of water instead of the usual 50 mL. Firstly, it can make it more likely to vomit/make you vomit more than otherwise. Secondly, if you vomit, it's more difficult to tell how much SN was lost, and therefore harder to decide whether to re-dose.

Concentration, not dilution!

Stan's Guide recommends "100mg of SN per every kilo of your weight is a fatal dose", or alternatively "25gm in 50 ml of plain water if you consider yourself a large size."

Whereas PPH recommends 25gr@50ml or 35gr@100ml. To put PPH into comparison to Sea Water, seawater is 3.5% sodium chloride or 3.5gr@100ml. Sodium Nitrite is likely to be very salty and viscous (as if the water is thick, has a weight to it).

I was incorrect to say one method recommend a secondary drink preperation: both do, but both are trying to achieve a lethal stomach content of Sodium Nitrite WITH VOMITING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, and I'll assume that Stan's Guide of 100mg SN per kilo body weight to be a minimum lethal dose.

It's impossible to say which is more right, which is more wrong. People probably aren't following either method to it's fullest correctly. But there is a disparity between methods: PPH recommends more SN and more water (generally, a lower concentration!), whereas Stan's Guide recommends less SN and less water (generally, a higher concentration), both depending on body weight.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Concentration, not dilution!

Stan's Guide recommends "100mg of SN per every kilo of your weight is a fatal dose", or alternatively "25gm in 50 ml of plain water if you consider yourself a large size."

Whereas PPH recommends 25gr@50ml or 35gr@100ml. To put PPH into comparison to Sea Water, seawater is 3.5% sodium chloride or 3.5gr@100ml. Sodium Nitrite is likely to be very salty or not viscous.

I was incorrect to say one method recommend a secondary drink preperation: both do, but both are trying to achieve a lethal stomach content of Sodium Nitrite EVEN AFTER VOMITING, and I'll assume that Stan's Guide of 100mg SN per kilo body weight to be a minimum.

It's impossible to say which is more right, which is more wrong. People probably aren't following either method to it's fullest correctly. But there is a disparity between methods: PPH recommends more SN and more water, whereas Stan's Guide recommends less SN and less water, both depending on size.

Oh I see what you're saying. 25-27g is more reliably lethal according to the data that we have (though obviously weight will affect it), so I agree.

 

[paparoach]

Oh I see what you're saying. 25-27g is more reliably lethal according to the data that we have (though obviously weight will affect it), so I agree.

25gr@50ml is likely fatal for 99% of everyone surveyed, I don't believe there's a reason to consume any more than that, but I'm not dictating this. I'd far prefer people followed their chosen method exactly, Anti-Emetics and Benzos included.

 

[danny10]

I know a benzo source if anyone is interested, DM me.

 

[slinkey10]

The same here, Benzos used to be like sweeties handed out in the Doctor's reception, now society has seen the damage they cause, especially with abrupt stopping, and no tapering.

In the UK, Valium/Diazepam is a Class 3 controlled substance: to order SN, which itself carries a risk of a health checkup by police, only to then have a restricted substance in the post from a seperate source lined up for receipt, almost defeats the purpose.

With the reintroduction to SN Method of Propranolol as a beta-blocker, I'd like to highlight it's anti-anxiety properties because I haven't seen this affect mentioned here at all, but I know that isn't it's intended purpose, it's purpose is to limit heart palpitation.

So ironic - im in teh uk & have the opposite experience ... "now society has seen the damage they cause, especially with abrupt stopping, and no tapering.
In the UK, Valium/Diazepam is a Class 3 controlled substance" - My GP will prescribe benzos untill I say stop - u have to play the game a bit and people dont!! I work in MH so know what to say. There isnt as far as im aware any adverse effects of long term use - ?! The clinical studies suggesting dementia, parkinsons etc etc have all been debunked. Even the conspiracy theory that xanax caused memery cells to die. lol
Yes im in teh UK and can get xanax but only from connections.

If your GP refuses to prescribe benzos say you want that stated on your medical record and you will be forced to get street versions instead.
If they try and script an anti depressant take the script and dont take it - throw it away. Then go back to GP a cpl of weeks later and say it didnt work & you want to try something else. I think they have to try 2 or 3 things before they will script u - my gp scripts me benzos but queries my ventolin inhalers , yeah really wtf...

Anyway , sorry to derail - benzos really arent all that - use the search & many posts come up confirming this.
Benzos are amazing 1st & second maybe 3rd time, after that they dont have teh same effect hence why GP's get scared and they cost $£

 

[paparoach]

My GP will prescribe benzos untill I say stop - u have to play the game a bit and people dont!!

I'll quote an old coworker of mine, sick to the bone with every ailment: "if you want the best out of the NHS, you have to go there so frequently, you know the staff by name."

That's not how I know the NHS, if I want a medication, I'm ordering online and from abroad without prescription. I'm not lieing, I'm not getting underdosed, I'm not getting time limited.

I selfprescribe.

 

[slinkey10]

I'll quote an old coworker of mine, sick to the bone with every ailment: "if you want the best out of the NHS, you have to go there so frequently, you know the staff by name."

That's not how I know the NHS, if I want a medication, I'm ordering online and from abroad without prescription. I'm not lieing, I'm not getting underdosed, I'm not getting time limited.

I selfprescribe.

Lucky you, seriously - after all I said my GP has just cut me off lol - wont even reply to my msgs.
Still have street connections but cant ever be sure if its just crap laced with fentanyl.