Resource SN megathread

[mayachcos]

Anyone knows if OTC Meclizine can replace Meto? Pretty difficult to get ahold of Meto as it's not a common prescription anymore in my country.

 

[lost1s]

I don't think can buy them conveniently from Amazon or Ebay anymore.

 

[Jumpingclear]

It's actually very easy to get at least in Spain. A simple search in Spanish will get you the right source. Got 500gr for ~12€ with no delivery issues

Hello, I'm new here. I'd really like to know which website you used to make this purchase. Do you know if they also ship to France? To individuals?

 

[cluefixphantom]

I might have found a reliable shop that offers SN for 100g (around 30 euros) and 500g (around 70 euros).

However, I haven't found the benzodiazepines or anti-nausea medications yet. I also don't have medical care, – if I had medical care I would consider getting fentanyl in high doses and skip the SN. For now, I thought I would take SN during the CO method with petrolium oven to be absolutely sure. Both cause internal suffocation. I think it's 100% lethal if no one visits you for at least two (better three) days.

 

[ilovenoodles]

Hii, please dm me if you have a reliable UK source <3 id be really grateful

 

[ZetaS579]

Hi, just wanted to ask, are there any weaker dopamine blocking antiemetics that are proven to be effective that are OTC?

 

[Alek1=]

Does anyone know how to get ahold of antiemetics strong enough for this method? I checked, and in Poland I was able to get SN easily. The problem is that none of the recommended antimemetics are OTC here, and I am not a good enough actor to fool a doctor. Maybe someone here did. What did you say to them? Also, Tagamet is not sold here, and I am not sure if bicarbonate will be enough.

 

[lysergamide]

Does anyone know how to get ahold of antiemetics strong enough for this method? I checked, and in Poland I was able to get SN easily. The problem is that none of the recommended antimemetics are OTC here, and I am not a good enough actor to fool a doctor. Maybe someone here did. What did you say to them? Also, Tagamet is not sold here, and I am not sure if bicarbonate will be enough.

A GP should be willing to prescribe you some. Let's say you have a trauma. Say you lived something very traumatic and sometimes it gets back to your head and you feel like you wanna throw up and it occurs several times… should be enough to get the meto iirc but put your back into it. Tears and shit. Think of something really sad

 

[hatosan]

So I want to know more about it but seems doesn't have time go read 404 pages :( . So how long until I CTB ? I only have 3 hours window max , so it is enough ?

Is this painless ? Even without the anti-emetic ? Can this be successful without the anti-emetic ?

Any dose of use for certain CTB without pain ?

 

[Lafayette1778]

Is potassium nitrate just as good as sodium nitrate?

 

[geepeedee]

So I want to know more about it but seems doesn't have time go read 404 pages :( . So how long until I CTB ? I only have 3 hours window max , so it is enough ?

Is this painless ? Even without the anti-emetic ? Can this be successful without the anti-emetic ?

Any dose of use for certain CTB without pain ?

3 hours is slightly less than the recommended 4. it works without the anti-emetic, and the pain seems to be highly variable from user to user.

Is potassium nitrate just as good as sodium nitrate?

nitrite. you need slightly more but the principle is the same.

 

[Bananaman]

3 hours is slightly less than the recommended 4.

The PPH states that death occurs in 40 minutes, yet I've been seeing people say 40 minutes to 4 hours, why is that? Is the time it takes to die truly that relative? I'd love to have a read on any reports and such that you could refer me to

 

[asfergrggdas]

Is it even possible to buy SN at this point? I have tried literally everything and followed all of the clues to find DSL and it is impossible. I don't understand why everything has to be so hard. Back in the 1950s you could just stick your head in the oven. But I guess then again I do understand why they make it so hard because this society is such a miserable place that they have to trap us here. Anyway sorry if this sounds insane but if anyone has any advice that would be much appreciated.

 

[geepeedee]

The PPH states that death occurs in 40 minutes, yet I've been seeing people say 40 minutes to 4 hours, why is that? Is the time it takes to die truly that relative? I'd love to have a read on any reports and such that you could refer me to

The time to death is somewhat variable, and you want to leave enough time so that being found won't make a difference.

 

[Rahovart]

I've found multiple SN sources but I'd like to confirm whether any of these qualities make it unsuitable to ctb:
Not suitable for food related work
Technical grade
In crystalline form

 

[magicdeathbutton]

It's actually very easy to get at least in Spain. A simple search in Spanish will get you the right source. Got 500gr for ~12€ with no delivery issues

Which website did you use if you don't mind me asking?

 

[appletree75]

Will SN cause explosion?
I read that "Mixture with combustible materials, organic substances, cyanides, ammonium compounds (especially ammonium sulfamate), and thiocyanates can cause violent reactions or explosions."
What are organic substances?

 

[buriedinmyhead]

It's too bad I can't find any stores in my city that sell any. I live with my folks still, and my dad has something set up so he can track mail coming to the house, so he'll see if I order some online. I guess I should look into getting a PO box, because this is really the only method I want to do.

 

[Luvwww.com]

i've decided to attempt next weekend, my antiemetic regime is 4x a day leading up to d-day but idk how much to take before i take the 20g of sn (is taking too much meto bad?) and idk how much tagamet i should take either as i have 200mg and it's advised to take the 800mg one... any help is appreciated

Hi Rin, I hope that you're free now.

 

[BrunoDante]

Desperately looking for SN source in the US. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[wave211]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Thank you, I am ready to buy the original nitrite but there no source. Are you sell it or just helping people understand the method better ..

 

[BrunoDante]

Any issues with Promethazine as an antiemetic? I already have some so it would pretty convenient.