Resource SN megathread

[howunfortunateforme]

You will most likely vomit even with antiemetics. Make sure that you prepare 2 cups, maybe even 3 cups if you easily get nauseous like me.

How long do you wait after vomiting to take second cup? Right away?

 

[zenirsar]

How long do you wait after vomiting to take second cup? Right away?

Yep, right away.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Is puking loud so someone downstairs would hear you? If fans were on

 

[OnlyOneSolution]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Sounds too simple. If it is that easy, why isn't it used more often among SS members?

 

[helpless_soul96]

You will most likely vomit even with antiemetics. Make sure that you prepare 2 cups, maybe even 3 cups if you easily get nauseous like me.

So vomiting does not ensure failure? How much is needed per cup?

 

[deathproof17]

What is the success rate without Antiemetics? Is it worth attempting with just SN? I managed to get a source for SN but Antiemetic meds are another story. Plus frankly I would like to keep it simple and swallow the stuff mixed with water and not have to take anything else.

 

[heyy]

sorry to ask - what is PPH? I am not quite familiar with these abbreviations. sorry :P

 

[iwdphm]

I am in the US. What is DMC? How can I order SN? Any help would be appreciated. My SN is fairly old and I cannot order from my old source

 

[disturbedreality]

Around an hour and a half should be enough for your blood to still have a red normal-like color if treated properly, I suspect. Also, as you can see in this image, he was recovered with no permanent damage.

Why take the sodium nitrite in the first place if you had to call the emergency services five minutes later

 

[asthedayends00]

Have you tried the tips

I am in the US. What is DMC? How can I order SN? Any help would be appreciated. My SN is fairly old and I cannot order from my old source

 

[eclipserot]

Have you tried the tips

I'm unsure if this is in reference to the original post of this thread, but I couldn't find anything about "tips". I've been scouring pages past that point, and checking the links provided, but it seems like they're either defunct, or said supplier has taken the item off shelf. I'm seriously struggling trying to parse the bread crumbs for a source. I don't know how much longer I can tolerate before trying alternative, but more painful methods because I couldn't get access. I'm more posting this as just an open cry for someone anyone to maybe dm me where to look more closely for my solution, or any alternative that can relieve me of this constant, excruciating pain.

Please anyone

 

[Ayloy]

Please give me SN

 

[transLucyd]

I live in Brazil, here I manage to buy two anti-emetics: Ondansetron 4mg and Dimenhydrinate 50mg + pyridoxine 10mg
do you guys think that it will do?
also, can't i just use magnesium hydroxide for the pH elevation?

 

[eepymumu8]

Hi, I would really appreciate it if someone could let me know about SN sources that ship to East asia. I've already found DMC, but I'm not sure about it. It's a bit suspicious. PM me

No one asked, but I've had depression and chronic leg pain for years. I'm still in pain now lol

 

[skatergirl]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

My sn has anti caking agent in it can anyone tell me will this still work thank you

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Thoughts on cannabis as an antiemetic?

I've certainly puked drunk+high before. And it increases dopamine. OTOH its antinausea properties are well-known. A lot of people on chemo use it medicinally.

 

[justwannadip]

How bad are the dizziness and headache effects from sn? Is the nausea unbearable?

 

[houd1n1]

Question: will dramamine work as an antiemetic? I do not have access to a doctor so I can't get a prescription antiemetic.

 

[petal76]

In looking for sn I came across a website that sells Sodium nitrite AGR ACS .It says its Analytical Grade and more than 98% and it also has the

NaNO2

Is this the stuff I need to ctb ?

 

[cosmicsoleil]

If anyone has an SN source that ships to the U.K. I'd be really grateful if you could PM me!

 

[lacustra]

I've already found DMC, but I'm not sure about it. It's a bit suspicious.

can you elaborate?

 

[skylar160]

This thread would be great if only if there was a link to getting SN and an Antiemetics.

 

[Galahad]

If anyone has an SN source that ships to the U.K. I'd be really grateful if you could PM me!

Can't post links openly on the boards but I put a thread up earlier about a Polish website that's just €16.13 including DHL to UK for 500g of 99% SN

 

[ShatteredShards]

If anyone has an SN source that ships to the U.K. I'd be really grateful if you could PM me!

I second this, been looking for months.

 

[roquentin]

I would send it if there was no legal problem, but in these conditions nobody wants to take that risk. Travelling to Turkey is easy, SN is sold here for about 10 dollars a kg and you can even buy it online. so this is the easiest way I can recommend to you right now.

 

[Porpoise]

Does promethazine work as an antiemetic

 

[TooLateNow]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

can you dothis withou antiemetics?

 

[lacustra]

How useful is an oximeter?

 

[TyGuy5]

Been reading through this quite a bit to gather some information. Thanks to everyone. I'm in Canada and looking for a SN source which seems tough and also the other meds on top of that seems tough to get hands on as well. Any tips for Canadians? Feel free to DM me thank you!

 

[M+A_forever]

Hey, can you guys check if this is the right SN? Please answer, it'll spare me time trying to scavenge the net for anything.

Here's the description if anyone's interested:

99+% Purity, Free Flowing Granular Form, Food Chemical Codex Compliant (Food Grade), Not suitable for homes with Children. • Passes Food Grade requirements for use in food processing with small doses. Not safe to consume directly.

And yes, they don't ship outside their country, but I think I can just have someone fetch it there for me, or I can travel directly there since they're a short flight away and is affordable.
Also, if you guys know anymore sources, please let me know. Thanks. I might ask for tips on how to use this method soon.