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effemel

effemel

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I've never wanted anything more than to die but I can't stop thinking about seeing complete darkness or nothingness. I'm kind of scared about what happens to my consciousness, if it fades to nothing then I shouldn't worry but I am scared.
What if I get reborn and forget about everything I believe in? Like I don't want to keep living as myself or as someone else
I saw this video today about this guy who tried to stab his heart to ctb and he said he felt so free and good before losing consciousness so that makes me worry less, I'd like that euphoric feeling but what if regret kicks in? Argggg I'm thinking to much about it
 
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I've never wanted anything more than to die but I can't stop thinking about seeing complete darkness or nothingness. I'm kind of scared about what happens to my consciousness, if it fades to nothing then I shouldn't worry but I am scared.
What if I get reborn and forget about everything I believe in? Like I don't want to keep living as myself or as someone else
I saw this video today about this guy who tried to stab his heart to ctb and he said he felt so free and good before losing consciousness so that makes me worry less, I'd like that euphoric feeling but what if regret kicks in? Argggg I'm thinking to much about it

 
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The conscious mind processes approximately 40 to 50 bits of information per second
that's a very small amount

one can focus or think about only very few concepts at one time

or really you only think about one thing or concept at a time. and a very few relating characteristics that define the main thing your thinking about at that moment or at one time
 
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great video honestly, who knows and who cares right? Maybe to stop feeling fear I should stop wanting to know , so many have ctb or died in other ways so I guess I wouldn't feel as afraid.

I think so too, that's why I like to use it in response to these types of questions. I'm glad it was helpful.
 
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I highly recommend you read up on evolution—how it took billions of years for complex conscious life to evolve. There's this great website (onezoom.org) that shows you the evolutionary tree of life, check it out.

I'm saying this because once you think about consciousness from an evolutionary standpoint, you come to the conclusion that it's just a side effect of animals developing more and more complex brains. It's not "real" so to speak. There's no afterlife, no heaven or hell, not even "nothing" as *you* won't be there to experience said nothingness. Consciousness just... goes.
 
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I highly recommend you read up on evolution—how it took billions of years for complex conscious life to evolve. There's this great website (onezoom.org) that shows you the evolutionary tree of life, check it out.

I'm saying this because once you think about consciousness from an evolutionary standpoint, you come to the conclusion that it's just a side effect of animals developing more and more complex brains. It's not "real" so to speak. There's no afterlife, no heaven or hell, not even "nothing" as *you* won't be there to experience said nothingness. Consciousness just... goes.
this sounds like a cool research project I'd do if I wanted to be alive for that long. But yeah, thinking of it from that perspective definitely helps me get over that fear, thanks
 
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floatingair

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You are not the body, you are consciousness. You will simply return to being your real self. Do you really think this world came from nothing? This world is like a dream. You are playing a very real looking VR game. Once your out, you go "woah, that was crazy. Thats a nasty game -- I killed myself to get out!" then you proceed to do whatever you desire. You might go back to the game as another virtual reality character, at the beginning of its lifespan (another baby), you might go back to your current character at a monumental spot that avoids what caused you to pursue suicide, or experience any one of the infinite dreams out there.
 
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You are not the body, you are consciousness. You will simply return to being your real self. Do you really think this world came from nothing? This world is like a dream. You are playing a very real looking VR game. Once your out, you go "woah, that was crazy. Thats a nasty game -- I killed myself to get out!" then you proceed to do whatever you desire. You might go back to the game as another virtual reality character, at the beginning of its lifespan (another baby), you might go back to your current character at a monumental spot that avoids what caused you to pursue suicide, or experience any one of the infinite dreams out there.
Too bad you can't prove any of that.
 
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You are not the body, you are consciousness. You will simply return to being your real self. Do you really think this world came from nothing? This world is like a dream. You are playing a very real looking VR game. Once your out, you go "woah, that was crazy. Thats a nasty game -- I killed myself to get out!" then you proceed to do whatever you desire. You might go back to the game as another virtual reality character, at the beginning of its lifespan (another baby), you might go back to your current character at a monumental spot that avoids what caused you to pursue suicide, or experience any one of the infinite dreams out there.
this probably isnt true but it's fun to imagine it does. i'd be curious to hear why you think it works this way
 
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floatingair

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this probably isnt true but it's fun to imagine it does. i'd be curious to hear why you think it works this way
Look into the following topics: Remote Viewing, Astral Projection/OBEs, Near Death Experiences, Quantum Immortality, Mandella Effects, Magic/Witchcraft, Energy Work/Chakras, Psychdellics, Lucid Dreaming, Shifting, Meditation/Advanced Meditation (Gateway Tapes / Binaural Beats)
Too bad you can't prove any of that.
Do you believe the world came from nothing? How do you think the big bang happened? What caused that? and what caused that? And what came before that? You don't have an answer. Energy cannot come from nothing. If you are actually interested, the topics I put above will point you in the right direction.
 
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You are not the body, you are consciousness. You will simply return to being your real self. Do you really think this world came from nothing? This world is like a dream. You are playing a very real looking VR game. Once your out, you go "woah, that was crazy. Thats a nasty game -- I killed myself to get out!" then you proceed to do whatever you desire. You might go back to the game as another virtual reality character, at the beginning of its lifespan (another baby), you might go back to your current character at a monumental spot that avoids what caused you to pursue suicide, or experience any one of the infinite dreams out there.
I have always been a spiritual person but also born a muslim, I belief this too, but it makes things so much more conflicting with the beliefs I grew up in. I anyhow experienced dreams predicting the future, I am still somewhat scared of the afterlife even with these realizations I got over the years, especially considering if I were to CBT, it's in the lowest of the lowest states I have ever been in. And I think that also has an impact on one's crossing over.
Look into the following topics: Remote Viewing, Astral Projection/OBEs, Near Death Experiences, Quantum Immortality, Mandella Effects, Magic/Witchcraft, Energy Work/Chakras, Psychdellics, Lucid Dreaming, Shifting, Meditation/Advanced Meditation (Gateway Tapes / Binaural Beats)

Do you believe the world came from nothing? How do you think the big bang happened? What caused that? and what caused that? And what came before that? You don't have an answer. Energy cannot come from nothing. If you are actually interested, the topics I put above will point you in the right direction.
Add synchronicities to this, thinking of someone, them suddenly messaging you etc etc, we're in constant telepathic communication with one another. One doesn't have to belief this, it's the truth. If you know ya know, so many more things really that we can't fathom with our minds, it's only when you get these realizations through lived experiences that you really start to realize whats up
 
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UserFromNowhere

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Do you believe the world came from nothing? How do you think the big bang happened? What caused that? and what caused that? And what came before that? You don't have an answer. Energy cannot come from nothing. If you are actually interested, the topics I put above will point you in the right direction.
Except that's exactly how it works. I've looked into and actively engaged with all the topics you've talked about in the past, it still doesn't convince me that there's fundamentally anything after life. I won't say there's nothing, I'm agnostic, but I'm not convinced we're bound to return to some greater celestial being. There does have to be a first mover, whether that's the big bang, God, or some other cosmic entity, there is a first mover. A point where nothing existed before it and it somehow came into existence, or that everything has always existed and the expansion simply happened because it did. But just because there has to exist a first mover does not mean it automatically validates spirituality.

To be clear, I'm not saying belief in the supernatural or paranormal is wrong, but I do think fallacious arguments used to defend it, similar to arguments used by iron-clad athiests as if they can proclaim that there is nothing out there when we truly don't know, are misguided at best and downright deceptive/manipulative at worst.
 
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floatingair

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Except that's exactly how it works. I've looked into and actively engaged with all the topics you've talked about in the past, it still doesn't convince me that there's fundamentally anything after life. I won't say there's nothing, I'm agnostic, but I'm not convinced we're bound to return to some greater celestial being. There does have to be a first mover, whether that's the big bang, God, or some other cosmic entity, there is a first mover. A point where nothing existed before it and it somehow came into existence, or that everything has always existed and the expansion simply happened because it did. But just because there has to exist a first mover does not mean it automatically validates spirituality.

To be clear, I'm not saying belief in the supernatural or paranormal is wrong, but I do think fallacious arguments used to defend it, similar to arguments used by iron-clad athiests as if they can proclaim that there is nothing out there when we truly don't know, are misguided at best and downright deceptive/manipulative at worst.
Well, its clear to me you did not research enough or you were so close minded you didn't see it.

This is the framework by which you can validate each of those topics I mentioned against:
You are not the body, but the awareness. Consciousness. You are not here for learning. Your not here for "spiritual growth." You are already everything. Instead, you are here to have an experience, of forgetting that you are God. You are currently experiencing this body. When you have dreams, you are exploring IN another body. It can be as stable as this reality here -- or it can be unstable. You could peek into the future of this path you are in -- that's how you get dreams that predict the future. In the dream, the dream appears objective to you, right? Because you are experiencing it from that body. This world appears subjective. Come back here, to waking reality, and your dreams appear subjective.

How does it work -- think of an infinite universe, everything already exists. An infinite fractal. All moments. Everything that could happen. Your past, your future. Your awareness is going through each of these "reality spheres." They are like frozen moments, a picture. Each one contains the entire universe. The body is inseparable from the world it is in. Your consciousness/awareness simply travels to a location in the fractal where the body and the universe happens to be in that state. You are going through the reality spheres right now, by where your awareness is focusing. Where you focus, that's where you go. As you experience time, that's you going through them. That's why some people say "you" are the television screen, and what's playing on the screen is your ego, your character you are playing here. The real you can never be hurt or die.

So, all of your past moments of "this character" exist, and you COULD -- you, as in your awareness, not your character, go BACK in time and even experience that over again. Or you could go to the future. Or you could go into a fictional story.

And like Yogih said, you can also add synchronicities.They are also a part of a fractal, and fractals will always have synchronicities. Signs.

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Remote Viewing, Astral Projection/OBEs, Near Death Experiences -> Rejection of Materialism -- you are not in the brain.

Psychdellics, Meditation/Advanced Meditation (Gateway Tapes / Binaural Beats) ->You are not JUST this body. You are everything. If you read high dose LSD/DMT reports or salvia reports, you will find they often explore in another body. There are many people who have had such experiences.

Quantum Immortality, Mandella Effects, Synchronicities -> These three show the fractal nature of reality, that you are merely an awareness exploring a story. If you research QIM you will find many people report experiences of dying, like in a car crash, then going back to a moment before where there is for instance slightly altered things in their reality. Synchronicities are signs that appear in the fractal. As for mandella effects, they are signs that where you were exploring previously in the fractal had something different than where you are exploring right now. Maybe then Pikachu had a black bit on the end, now he doesn't.

Magic/Witchcraft, Energy Work/Chakras, Lucid Dreaming, Reality Shifting -> Evidence of people's ability as awareness to alter their reality. You can do it on psychdellics/meditation too. Witchcraft exists. Do you think all the witches are playing play-a-witch? lol. As does energy work, chakras. Lucid dreaming, you are actually going to another body. Reality shifting is you going to a reality like ours that is just as real where there is a lot of consciousness (energy) compared to dreams. There are many people who claim to do this also.
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Start with remote viewing. If you actually research this seriously, you will find out that you as consciousness are not limited to this body. You can peek anywhere, find information non-local to you, from the past, or from the future. This will start one's rejection of materialism. Listen to Alan Watts. If you are not willing to accept this, then you will just find any reason to deny it.

I have always been a spiritual person but also born a muslim, I belief this too, but it makes things so much more conflicting with the beliefs I grew up in. I anyhow experienced dreams predicting the future, I am still somewhat scared of the afterlife even with these realizations I got over the years, especially considering if I were to CBT, it's in the lowest of the lowest states I have ever been in. And I think that also has an impact on one's crossing over.

Add synchronicities to this, thinking of someone, them suddenly messaging you etc etc, we're in constant telepathic communication with one another. One doesn't have to belief this, it's the truth. If you know ya know, so many more things really that we can't fathom with our minds, it's only when you get these realizations through lived experiences that you really start to realize whats up
Read my comment above. You are better off letting go of the baggage of all religions. All of them try to make sense of God, but they can't. Because their purpose is to control humans. Does it make any sense for a loving "God" to put a muslim in hell just because they happened to be born muslim instead of christian? what if the muslim happened to have much better morals? Its pure hypocrisy, and it applies to Islam too. If your interested, try psychdellics. With meditation on psychdellics in pursuit of ego death / letting go of all your attachments, you will get closer to the truth.
 
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Look into the following topics: Remote Viewing, Astral Projection/OBEs, Near Death Experiences, Quantum Immortality, Mandella Effects, Magic/Witchcraft, Energy Work/Chakras, Psychdellics, Lucid Dreaming, Shifting, Meditation/Advanced Meditation (Gateway Tapes / Binaural Beats)

Do you believe the world came from nothing? How do you think the big bang happened? What caused that? and what caused that? And what came before that? You don't have an answer. Energy cannot come from nothing. If you are actually interested, the topics I put above will point you in the right direction.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/09/250913232932.htm
 
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Well, its clear to me you did not research enough or you were so close minded you didn't see it.
See, there's the problem with this reasoning and rhetoric. Proclaiming that anyone opposed to it simply "hasn't done enough research" or is "close minded" instead of acknowledging others could be rational actors that simply have their own interpretations of things. It runs contraventional to the spirit of reason itself, and is not appropriate in any debate or discussion over matters of significance such as the existence of any post-death experience.
 
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See, there's the problem with this reasoning and rhetoric. Proclaiming that anyone opposed to it simply "hasn't done enough research" or is "close minded" instead of acknowledging others could be rational actors that simply have their own interpretations of things. It runs contraventional to the spirit of reason itself, and is not appropriate in any debate or discussion over matters of significance such as the existence of any post-death experience.
It doesn't look like you even want to respond to the argument and making excuses. What did you get out of researching remote viewing -- what would it mean if we are in fact able to get information non-local to us? It defeats materialism entirely. You can't have both. I say this because anybody who actually cares about the truth and bothered to research any one of the topics I mentioned would learn that reality is actually not as simple as it appears. Keep on making excuses though.
'Physicist Julian Schwinger predicted in 1951 that under extremely intense electric fields, the quantum vacuum could spontaneously produce electron-positron pairs — matter and antimatter — via a process known as the Schwinger effect. This is a prediction from quantum electrodynamics, and it does not violate energy conservation because the energy for the particles comes from the field, not "nothing." '
 

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