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fluffycliff

fluffycliff

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If I cut my caloric intake to 500-800 calories a day before VSED, as well as limiting hydration, will this hasten the process? The maximum I've made it before was 3 days before getting myself out of that head space. I am assuming for me it would take a week or two, but I would plan for three.

I have the resolve, so if my preferred method is unavailable, this seems like the most logical next option.
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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Nov 12, 2025
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IMO there's nothing logical about attempting with non-methods. Idk what else to tell you.
 
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fluffycliff

fluffycliff

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May 9, 2026
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IMO there's nothing logical about attempting with non-methods. Idk what else to tell you.
I was looking for advice on this method, I am aware it is considered a non-method for most.
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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Nov 12, 2025
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I was looking for advice on this method, I am aware it is considered a non-method for most.
Maybe ask @Dejected 55 for advice as he's posted about his experiences with it.
 
LastDayOnEarth

LastDayOnEarth

Vsed apologist
May 20, 2025
424
I guess it might help you, but what will help you the most is the lack of water intake, that alone will make the fatigue so bad you might sleep even longer and not have much of a desire to get out of bed
 
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fluffycliff

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May 9, 2026
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Maybe ask @Dejected 55 for advice as he's posted about his experiences with it.
Thank you.

@LastDayOnEarth I agree, I'm usually well hydrated. Do you think coffee would prolong the process? My initial reaction is no, but once your body starts to shut down, I don't know if it will just makes things more difficult.
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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Thank you.

@LastDayOnEarth I agree, I'm usually well hydrated. Do you think coffee would prolong the process? My initial reaction is no, but once your body starts to shut down, I don't know if it will just makes things more difficult.
I understand I'm answering something I wasn't asked, but someone still drinking coffee (or drinking anything) is not doing VSED.
 
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LastDayOnEarth

Vsed apologist
May 20, 2025
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Thank you.

@LastDayOnEarth I agree, I'm usually well hydrated. Do you think coffee would prolong the process? My initial reaction is no, but once your body starts to shut down, I don't know if it will just makes things more difficult.
Yeah I think coffee and alcohol will speed up the process but also make it more painful, specially alcohol
 
Dejected 55

Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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Maybe ask @Dejected 55 for advice as he's posted about his experiences with it.
So... partly because I was looking for a way to die and partly because I literally had no money... I ran out of food and my water service was disconnected. I still had some bottled water for a bit.

Basically I had 2 weeks of not eating anything, but having a couple of bottled waters per day. Then I had some pennies and bought a few packs of ramen and at those over 3 days. Then I was out of food again and by then had ran out of bottled water also.

So, I had about 5 days of no food and no water at all. I then discovered I could get a trickle out of my faucet even with no water service, and I could manage a couple of cups of water a day that way so I had about a week of that level of minimal water.

It was at that point, 5 weeks of virtually no food and 2 weeks of very limited water, I passed out in my chair. I had been getting weaker if I walked much so I tried not to do much physically... but I passed out 3 times from a sitting position, each time waking up in the floor after being unconscious for some period of time all taking place over a couple of hours.

I went to the hospital the next day because I chickened out and got IV fluids for several days before I was semi-normal again.

Your mileage may vary of course.
 
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So... partly because I was looking for a way to die and partly because I literally had no money... I ran out of food and my water service was disconnected. I still had some bottled water for a bit.

Basically I had 2 weeks of not eating anything, but having a couple of bottled waters per day. Then I had some pennies and bought a few packs of ramen and at those over 3 days. Then I was out of food again and by then had ran out of bottled water also.

So, I had about 5 days of no food and no water at all. I then discovered I could get a trickle out of my faucet even with no water service, and I could manage a couple of cups of water a day that way so I had about a week of that level of minimal water.

It was at that point, 5 weeks of virtually no food and 2 weeks of very limited water, I passed out in my chair. I had been getting weaker if I walked much so I tried not to do much physically... but I passed out 3 times from a sitting position, each time waking up in the floor after being unconscious for some period of time all taking place over a couple of hours.

I went to the hospital the next day because I chickened out and got IV fluids for several days before I was semi-normal again.

Your mileage may vary of course.
Thanks for sharing. From the last few times I've stopped eating and drinking water, I usually lose my vision for about 30 seconds after standing up, about a day or two in. There was one time I stood up, the room went completely blank, and I woke up on the floor.

For me, economic conditions are the primary reason for wanting a way out. Without getting into too much detail, I have had so little opportunity over the last decade. What I deal with is chronic, my immediate surroundings are/were so caustic, and it effects my ability to function when I try to go out. The moments of peace, productivity and stability are continuously and more rapidly being destroyed.

At a basal level, I wanted to have a family and build a future. I am capable of contributing much more than I take. I know I have people who care about me, I have friends, I have talents and I have a unique mind. However, I have been so tortured for so long and denied medical care so many times when needed most, a realistic pathway to living without suicidal tendencies is infeasible. I don't want to be suicidal. But I also don't want to be bound to poverty and destitution by an incurable condition.

Even as the clarity has somewhat returned, the lack of opportunity to survive, let alone thrive, continues to diminish. The future horizon has fluctuated over the past few years, but it's recently collapsed from decades to months or weeks.
I understand I'm answering something I wasn't asked, but someone still drinking coffee (or drinking anything) is not doing VSED.
Fair point. I am not saying I am completely at that point yet, more seeking information so I can plan. None of the methods I have available to me have a high enough mortality rate or are discreet enough for a successful attempt.

I try to maintain a kind disposition as much as possible, because the world needs more kindness and less division. But I am being driven to suicide, including explicit verbalizations.

Additionally, to address an earlier point, I am aware enough to recognize that the majority of suicide attempts/completions are illogical. I make a near complete exception for terminal and debilitating conditions, given consent.
 
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PanaxMan

Water fasting until death (Currently homeless)
Apr 11, 2023
679
If I cut my caloric intake to 500-800 calories a day before VSED, as well as limiting hydration, will this hasten the process? The maximum I've made it before was 3 days before getting myself out of that head space. I am assuming for me it would take a week or two, but I would plan for three.

I have the resolve, so if my preferred method is unavailable, this seems like the most logical next option.
No idea. I just am raw dogging it. Currently a week into it. (Lots of pain stomach and whenever people bring food around that smells... PMO.
Below is a thread someone who did vsed thru disappearing into a forest (depends on you if you are capable of doing it within a home preferable obv)

There is also a thread of someone attempting 39 days. So it's a very long process.

I'm big boned so my guess is that I'll survive longer then 30 days. Although I could die cuz my body is just shit but it will most likely make me healthier until the body starts shutting down.

Also currently homeless but have access to water

(Water fasting 0 food) And doing it without water is a big challenge if you experienced not drinking water for a few days it's horrible.
 
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BlueMist96

BlueMist96

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May 12, 2026
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This is only going to hurt your body and make things worse for you.
 
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fluffycliff

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May 9, 2026
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@PanaxMan I am sorry to hear that my friend, I would never suggest suicide to anyone.

Homelessness is very difficult to deal with. If I had to go through it again, I would have slept on the floor at work for two weeks, gotten a gym membership nearby, and gotten the cheapest car I could afford for shelter/transportation (I don't know if these are accessible to you).

Best of luck to you, may your strength return.
 
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Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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For what it's worth... I am overweight, so I knew I could handle the lack of food for longer than most... but figured the lack of water would have gotten to me sooner. I probably lost about 50 lbs, and then once I started back on fluids I gained back about 10 lbs of mostly water in the early days via IV and drinking lots of water. I wasn't peeing regularly for a couple of days because my body needed so much replenishing at first.
 
fluffycliff

fluffycliff

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May 9, 2026
7
@Dejected 55 makes sense, and I'm glad you seem to be doing better now. Even having this conversation has shifted plans from weeks to months, so I'll give it a bit more time and effort. It's difficult having these conversations in real life because people rarely know how to respond, and in the moment responses are often more destabilizing than constructive.

It's difficult to tell if I'm giving up on myself, those around me are giving up on me, or both.

I know what caused this most recently, because life was looking up in the preceding months. My greatest fear is remaining stagnant with an already shortened lifespan and probable future deterioration.

I think total incapacitation and non-functioning are still a ways off. Who knows, maybe someone finds a cure. But if the trajectory turns negative again, I want to be well informed.
 
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PanaxMan

Water fasting until death (Currently homeless)
Apr 11, 2023
679
@PanaxMan I am sorry to hear that my friend, I would never suggest suicide to anyone.

Homelessness is very difficult to deal with. If I had to go through it again, I would have slept on the floor at work for two weeks, gotten a gym membership nearby, and gotten the cheapest car I could afford for shelter/transportation (I don't know if these are accessible to you).

Best of luck to you, may your strength return.
I don't have access to the basics due to parental struggles within documents and lots of other problems and it's not worth talking about unless a a miracle happens (which idk) I'm in a upper class neighborhood so maybe something will