questions on the shallow water blackout method

[nopointofliving]

The idea is I faint and be drown in shallow water. There are many ways to faint, I found some on internet such as :

• Hyperventilation
• Dehydration
• Standing still for long hours
• Drug and alcohol overdose
• Straining when constipated
• Instant change of position, for instance, standing up very quickly
• Sudden decrease in blood pressure
• Low blood sugar as a result of insulin overdose

1. Why does the shallow water method focus only the hyperventilation? Is it really required?
2. When I faint and be drown in water, won't I wake up?

Sorry if my questions seem stupid. This is my only exit, it seems.


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How to make yourself pass out for a few minutes​

Fainting or passing out on purpose is not recommended. It can be dangerous and you can end up hurting yourself.


There are different reasons that can make you want to faint on purpose. If you have to try this, you need to do it in presences of other people.


If you do this alone, you could end up hurting yourself during the process or when you fall down on the ground. Have a friend ensure you have a cushioned place to land.


Here is what you need to do if you want to go off for a few minutes:

1. Hyperventilating to reduce the amount of oxygen in your body. This can be an easy way to induce fainting on your own. With this method, you start feeling dizzy, lightheaded and may lose vision, then you fall over
2. The other way you can do this is by holding your breath and depriving your body oxygen. With this method, the shortness in oxygen causes your body goes numb and you start feeling lightheaded.
3. You could also induce fainting by starving your body. Not eating for long can cause someone to faint.
4. The other method you can use is putting your head between the knees while standing. Now stand up without breathing in or out and quickly insert your thumb in your mouth, breath against your thumb for some second. You will faint without knowing.
5. Holding smoke in your lungs is the other simple trick to make yourself lightheaded and faint on purpose. Cigarette, weed or sheesha smoke inhaled in large amounts can make you faint for some minutes.

 

[BlankUser]

That was an interesting read. I'll keep practising hyperventilation, but I always thought that I will intoxicate myself with alcohol and benzos and go for a swim. I just don't know if the water will sober me up or not. I was swimming while drunk before and noticed that I get sober more quickly than on land.

 

[lanax09]

SWB can be pretty good if you get it right but it's hard to get right. anyway, answers:
1. I think the other ones would work but they're generally less accessible, painful/uncomfortable to do or not possible to do in water.
2. I'm not 100% sure on this one but you'll probably be out for longer than it would take to die

 

[nopointofliving]

Thank you, I appreciate it

SWB can be pretty good if you get it right but it's hard to get right. anyway, answers:
1. I think the other ones would work but they're generally less accessible, painful/uncomfortable to do or not possible to do in water.
2. I'm not 100% sure on this one but you'll probably be out for longer than it would take to die

 

[russlinjimmies]

I assume the fainting episode from hyperventilation lasts longer than other causes, so the likelihood of success is higher. I can't find anything that supports that, though.

 

[Zzzzz]

Can unconciousness be caused just by holding breath underwater? I hyperventilated for 5 minutes and it didn't seem to work at all.

 

[nopointofliving]

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Can unconciousness be caused just by holding breath underwater? I hyperventilated for 5 minutes and it didn't seem to work at all.

I couldn't get it to work either. I'm thinking to combine it with night night method. I'm still planning, not sure!

 

[motel rooms]

Can unconciousness be caused just by holding breath underwater? I hyperventilated for 5 minutes and it didn't seem to work at all.

Alternate between the two

 

[checkouttime]

In either in a thread or in the resources i remember reading that their is a reason you don't wake up hen doing this method.I just cant remember why, but the info is definitely around!

 

[Longman]

1. Why does the shallow water method focus only the hyperventilation? Is it really required?

SWB method, as described in the first post of this thread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.4315/ was about trying to induce SWB (and drown), not just about fainting (and drowning) while submerged/standing in water.
Shallow water blackout ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freediving_blackout#Shallow_water_blackout ) is blackout while diving on a constant depth because running out of oxygen before CO2 blood level rises and triggers urge to breath. Hyperventilation before dive is just a method to lower initial CO2 level - and it seems the only method of reaching hypocapnia.

2. When I faint and be drown in water, won't I wake up?

If it was SWB, waking up is impossible if you are underwater (since body oxygen resources are lower than needed for consciousness and are only depleting). Possibility of surviving still exists, according to the same Wikipedia article.

An unconscious diver loses voluntary bodily control, but still has protective reflexes that protect the airway. One of these is laryngospasm, which closes the larynx to prevent water from entering the lungs. After some time a laryngospasm will relax and the airway will open. If the diver has reached the surface and the diver's face is kept above water, when the laryngospasm relaxes spontaneous breathing will often resume.

In case of fainting, induced by "fainting lark" or similar technique, waking up while underwater is possible (just my assumption).

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-blackout-worked-for-anyone.19115/post-484877

Ben closed his thread, because SWB method seemed doubtful - nobody who tried was able to reproduce SWB (without water of course). Another information against using SWB method is blog post of somebody who tried different modes of hyperventilation and following activity while breath-holding. He also failed to reach SWB. Maybe SWB can't be reached by an average untrained person.

 

[neonnightlights]

Someone in another thread said something about physical exertion, that thats how professional swimmers black out underwater easily because they are physically active so it makes sense that just hyperventilating wouldn't work.. maybe if someone tried things like doing pushups for a long time before submerging yourself?

 

[motel rooms]

Someone in another thread said something about physical exertion, that thats how professional swimmers black out underwater easily because they are physically active so it makes sense that just hyperventilating wouldn't work.. maybe if someone tried things like doing pushups for a long time before submerging yourself?

Physical exertion helps speed up the process, but it's crucial to repeatedly alternate between hyperventilating & holding your breath as long as you can. It's really not that complicated, but it might require a little patience. You don't have to be an extraordinarily fit professional swimmer, you can be a decrepit 70-year-old or an ordinary kid