Story Police investigating pro choice sites after someone committed suicide

[Righttodie]

Police Are Investigating After The Family Of A 25-Year-Old Woman Say That A "Pro-Choice" Suicide Website Encouraged Her To Kill Herself

"This is not free speech," the mother of Shawn Shatto told BuzzFeed News. "This is murder. Someone needs to be held liable."

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Anyone following this ?

What are your thoughts

 

[DoomedxFromBirth]

This is how I found this place. I hope it doesnt get taken down or anything.

 

[3dworldsucks]

Police Are Investigating After The Family Of A 25-Year-Old Woman Say That A "Pro-Choice" Suicide Website Encouraged Her To Kill Herself

"This is not free speech," the mother of Shawn Shatto told BuzzFeed News. "This is murder. Someone needs to be held liable."

www.google.com

Anyone following this ?

What are your thoughts

kind of stupid, thats like saying "kys" is considered murder if the person went through with it.

 

[PatKat]

I am sad for her and her family it is a really hard thing to recover from so I understand why they are mad. I never spoke to her or read her threads as I am to depressed to read those kinds of things. I do not follow it though it isnt my business. :(

 

[virtual]

Not to be insensitive to the family because I can't even begin to imagine how horrible it must be for them, but the fact that the mother compares it to murder is baffling.

 

[PatKat]

This is how I found this place. I hope it doesnt get taken down or anything.

You wernt even on this site until after you are safe. I think they are talking about the ones in the thread or something not sure, but the admins and mods have it under control.

 

[3dworldsucks]

Not to be insensitive to the family because I can't even begin to imagine how horrible it must be for them, but the fact that the mother compares it to murder is baffling.

Its understandable, shes just distraught etc, she needs someone to pin the blame at.

 

[crimea_river]

I have complete empathy for both the deceased and their family of course, as should everyone.

But I really hope the media furore about this recedes asap. It's unhelpful in so many ways.

 

[Conflicted Cat]

It was not murder! IT. WAS. SUICIDE! Her choice! They have painted such a wrong picture of us. We are simply like her, people who have been through hell and are sick of suffering, but all on unique paths and different ways.

I have no worries about the site being take down. The admins are smart.

 

[not_a_robot]

"Someone needs to be held liable".
Yep. That's absolutely right.
The therapists who failed to understand and help her should absolutely be held liable.
Also the pharmaceutical manufacturer if she was on any meds at the time.

 

[mutagen5577]

Looks like they want a scapegoat for her suicide. The poor girl shouldn't have reached the point where being on this site was the place she found belonging. A now defunct sanctioned suicide forum had a saying "Sorry you're here" for good reason.

 

[PatKat]

"Someone needs to be held liable".
Yep. That's absolutely right.
The therapists who failed to understand and help her should absolutely be held liable.

When and if I go I will be liable for myself. Noone will be blamed, noone will investigate.

 

[TiredHorse]

Fortunately, the last I heard, Suzy's Law is not yet law:

'Pro-suicide' websites lure too many people

Mental health experts are just coming to grips with how the Internet influences suicide risk and prevention.

www.chicagotribune.com

"A decade has passed since Suzy's Law was first introduced, but it has yet to gain traction in Washington."

This came up back in early December last year: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suzys-law-and-suicide-education.8657/ And yes, I blew a sprocket in my ranting, in that thread. Sorry.

But I have to admit, I'm growing concerned that this fiasco hasn't faded out of the news even after ten days and another national headlines mass shooting. The Buzzfeed article is new writing, too; not just the identical cut-and-paste of all the other articles I had seen up until now. If this gives Suzy's Law some of that "traction" it was lacking, that would be profoundly unfortunate.

 

[not_a_robot]

I have complete empathy for both the deceased and their family of course, as should everyone.

But I really hope the media furore about this recedes asap. It's unhelpful in so many ways.

Yes, I also feel compete empathy for anyone who loses a family member to the failures of our useless mental health industry. It must be awful knowing they were failed by the industry that is paid to help prevent these situations.

Fortunately, the last I heard, Suzy's Law is not yet law:

'Pro-suicide' websites lure too many people

Mental health experts are just coming to grips with how the Internet influences suicide risk and prevention.

www.chicagotribune.com

"A decade has passed since Suzy's Law was first introduced, but it has yet to gain traction in Washington."

This came up back in early December last year: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suzys-law-and-suicide-education.8657/ And yes, I blew a sprocket in my ranting, in that thread. Sorry.

But I have to admit, I'm growing concerned that this fiasco hasn't faded out of the news even after ten days and another national headlines mass shooting. The Buzzfeed article is new writing, too; not just the identical cut-and-paste of all the other articles I had seen up until now. If this gives Suzy's Law some of that "traction" it was lacking, that would be profoundly unfortunate.

Also that Michelle girl went to prison even though she told the guy for months to go get help, and he had attempted several times before they met.
People have a real hardon for the parental crusades.

 

[Soul]

I seriously don't get how the media can encourage the family to say daft things like "why didn't anyone [on this site] call 911" and "the website gave her no choice". The family is distraught; the media aren't.

 

[Taylored]

It's sad the media is using this to boost their ratings and put out lies.

 

[PatKat]

I think we should just stop talking about it it's making me sad :(

 

[Nem]

It's unfortunate without a doubt. But people here are supportive more than anything and would never push someone into taking their own lives. Suicide is a personal choice and I think big pharma should be thoroughly investigated for ruining people's lives without a doubt.
Peace and RIP

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

Well tbh this was only a matter of time. Of course some grieving family is going to blame a place like this - their loss is immense and they can't fathom something like suicide. For normies it's just a case of "feeling suicidal? Call 911 or go to the ER". It's an ingrained mantra like "stranger danger" that's so automatic they don't even stop to question it. They probably think this site is like the blue whale thing or some shit. And also this is why I err on the side of caution and don't talk about methods/death with anyone. It's potentially a very serious charge with real world consequences if you're unlucky. It's not like d/l'ing an mp3. Pls people, smarten up and protect yourselves.

 

[Powderedmonster]

It's unfortunate without a doubt. But people here are supportive more than anything and would never push someone into taking their own lives. Suicide is a personal choice and I think big pharma should be thoroughly investigated for ruining people's lives without a doubt.
Peace and RIP❤

If I could double like this....

 

[PatKat]

Well tbh this was only a matter of time. Of course some grieving family is going to blame a place like this - their loss is immense and they can't fathom something like suicide. For normies it's just a case of "feeling suicidal? Call 911 or go to the ER". It's an ingrained mantra like "stranger danger" that's so automatic they don't even stop to question it. They probably think this site is like the blue whale thing or some shit. And also this is why I err on the side of caution and don't talk about methods/death with anyone. It's potentially a very serious charge with real world consequences if you're unlucky. It's not like d/l'ing an mp3. Pls people, smarten up and protect yourselves.

Same here I dont get involved with others I have my own issues to deal with and they already consume me so why get involved with anothers?

 

[not_a_robot]

It's sad the media is using this to boost their ratings and put out lies.

Isn't that their entire business model?

 

[TAW122]

This isn't good, and I hope our site doesn't get shut down as a result of this. I know that in the FAQ it stated that we shouldn't worry about this, but given the amount of negative media attention to this, I'm not sure how things will fare in the future here...

 

[not_a_robot]

I think we should just stop talking about it it's making me sad :(

If it's making you sad, you definitely should stop talking about it. Other people are allowed to have opinions too.

 

[PatKat]

This isn't good, and I hope our site doesn't get shut down as a result of this. I know that in the FAQ it stated that we shouldn't worry about this, but given the amount of negative media attention to this, I'm not sure how things will fare in the future here...

If one goes down 3 more will pop up.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

My condolences to the family, and may the girl rest in peace. But, this site doesn't promote anyone to kill themselves. This is a pro-choice website, and we are all supportive of one another and understand each other's circumstances that we are all in(mentally,physically, and so on.) The girl chose to take her own life, and it was her decision alone, and I don't understand why the media needs to always make one situation 100x worse than it is. The only people that failed her were the psychologists, and mental health team that truly didn't understand how she really felt. And, I honestly hate the mainstream media, its all establishment bullshit fed to to the masses to form a public opinion, and outrage. I have a brain thank you very much, and I can think for myself. I don't need Buzzfeed(which is a horrible MSM outlet) or any MSM to tell me what and how to think.

And, ignore all the fear mongering of the site getting shut down. It's not. The media always wants unwarranted fear, and that's how they control you.

 

[throwaway123]

We made it to BuzzFeed guys!!!!

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

We made it to BuzzFeed guys!!!!

Yes, but buzzfeed is a terrible website overall. Some of their articles seem like they're written by high school students.

 

[not_a_robot]

If one goes down 3 more will pop up.

Yeah when Congress passed FOSTA it only killed backpage but it sure didn't stop any other online prostitution. It was all a big dog-and-pony show for the media.

Yes, but buzzfeed is a terrible website overall. Some of their articles seem like they're written by high school students.

lol I thought he was being sarcastic, I don't think the site or the users want any media attention, and Buzzfeed being a kiddie-site is the joke.

 

[Purgatory]

I am a long term member of the suicidal community. I have attempted and failed to ctb multiple times, some of which landed me in the psych ward. Members of this community have helped me stand up, brush off the dirt, and move on. In many cases, some dear friends from here have talked me down from an attempt by being there for me. Caring and understanding like no one else can. More helpful than any doctor or drug.
I have been around long enough (sometimes I think unfortunately, sometimes I am glad to still be around) to see some sites go defunct, others overrun by trolls, and several banned. We always find each other again, because we do really care for one another and know all the right places and people to look for. Our lives are sometimes dark. Therefore we know our way in the dark like the blind in their own homes. As @PatKat mentioned, if one goes down, three more will appear.