Phone number requested in email about N.

[realjunes]

Phone number requested in email about N.

I was following the thread below and noticed an SS member mentioned being asked for a phone number when the member inquired about N in an email. I checked back on an email I received on October 20, 2019 and sure enough I also was asked for a phone number in a reply to me requesting costs for N. I never replied, not having the cash to spare, and because I was worried about the things I had been reading on different forums about this. In any case, I wanted to let you all know I was asked for a phone number, when other members were not asked for a phone number, so you will have this information and you can consider whether that should raise a caution flag.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...i-take-xanax-with-it.26797/page-2#post-488502

 

[SinisterKid]

Much easier to find someone with a current phone number than it is with just a e mail address. So scammers like a easy life, go figure.

 

[DepressionsAHo]

Much easier to find someone with a current phone number than it is with just a e mail address. So scammers like a easy life, go figure.

That's what I told him. It sounds like a huge scam but I'm bumping this to make sure I'm not wrong. As I told you before. I got your back buddy

 

[sleepy dog]

So you think the famous 'A' is a scammer SinisterKid and DepressionsAHo ?

 

[DepressionsAHo]

No, I think he got the wrong email address because I wasn't asked for a phone number when I ordered. A phone number is unique to you and only you and that worries me greatly.
I don't think he got in contact with a scammer, I think he got in contact with an undercover law enforcement agent and if he gives that number out, he'll get a surprise visit to prison or a psych ward
That's why I told him to make this post because I know he added a few things to the initial email, but from my contacts, a phone number wasn't one of them

 

[SinisterKid]

No, did I say that? The scam is elsewhere, via the doctoring of available sources of information, which we know about.

 

[sleepy dog]

'A' is asking for a phone number now. He did the same to me. Not the first time I ordered successfully. I was thinking of ordering it again, but this time use it immediately after getting it. I thought I would need to use another name and address. Maybe the USPS would be searching any of my packages because of what happened with the first order. I wanted to find out what would be required to do if I used Bitcoin instead of Western Union. The Bitcoin transaction is supposed to be anonymous. He asked for a phone number. I was shocked and it immediately screamed police to me. I had just went through all the confiscation and mental facility hold and forced medicine. I still don't know how the police found out. The only person that knew I ordered the N was 'A'.

 

[realjunes]

'A' is asking for a phone number now. He did the same to me. Not the first time I ordered successfully. I was thinking of ordering it again, but this time use it immediately after getting it. I thought I would need to use another name and address. Maybe the USPS would search any of my packages. I wanted to find out what would be required to do if I used Bitcoin instead of Western Union. The Bitcoin transaction is supposed to be anonymous. He asked for a phone number. I was shocked and it immediately screamed police to me. I had just went through all the confiscation and mental facility hold and forced medicine. I still don't know how the police found out. The only person that knew I ordered the N was 'A'.

Did this involve police in the USA? I heard of that happening in Europe but had not heard about them
handling N buyers in the states.

He asked for my phone number too. It's so if the package that needs to be signed for is attempted to be delivered and you're not home that the carrier can call you to reschedule at a time when you're available. It's not law enforcement, promise

That my thought to Dazed, but we thought we should put this info out for all to evaluate, and maybe we can
come to a consensus or at least we will all have all the information we can.

 

[sleepy dog]

Did this involve police in the USA? I heard of that happening in Europe but had not heard about them
handling N buyers in the states.

Yes in the USA. I never ordered a second time. The phone number thing scared me. I just checked that email again. The email says its so the delivery person can call when the delivery occurs.

 

[Empty Smile]

Yes in the USA. I never ordered a second time. The phone number thing scared me. I just checked that email again. The email says its so the delivery person can call when the delivery occurs.

If the delivery is being done by the USPS, why does the postman need to call you?

Sounds a bit fishy to me...

 

[realjunes]

Yes in the USA. I just checked that email again. I never ordered a second time. The phone number thing scared me. The email says its so the delivery person can call when the delivery occurs.

Sleepy, that is what was written in the email to me, to wit: "Also a telephone number, I ask this because the courier could call when the delivery occurs".
that was in the email I got back on Oct 20, 2019. I checked an email I got in Sept. 2019, and no number was requested then. But at the same time we need to consider that this last summer some troubles occurred, so is this just a new and improved, and hopefully a safer way for him to do business.
I dunno....

If the delivery is being done by the USPS, why does the postman need to call you?

Sounds a bit fishy to me...

Are deliveries being made by US Post Office, or a courier service? Delivery services ask for phone numbers of the recipient, the US post office does not, as far as I know.

 

[SinisterKid]

If its a courier delivery, is there not a tracking number you can check online?

 

[Empty Smile]

Are deliveries being made by US Post Office, or a courier service? Delivery services ask for phone numbers of the recipient, the US post office does not, as far as I know.

I've had packages delivered from many different couriers, never had one ask me for my number though.

Like @SinisterKid just asked about the tracking number, most shipping services offer this, even US post office

 

[DepressionsAHo]

I've had packages delivered from many different couriers, never had one ask me for my number though.

Like @SinisterKid just asked about the tracking number, most shipping services offer this, even US post office

A doesn't give out tracking numbers anymore. He says it in the initial reply
Edit: I meant to reply to @SinisterKid

 

[sleepy dog]

'A' won't give tracking numbers.
I have never had a shipper ask for my phone number.
That email I referred to was received on 8/22/2019.
Asking for a phone number scared me. So law enforcement has successfully scared me out of ordering N. If I still had the first order, I would have taken it on Wednesday night at bedtime. I am ready. Forget the will and advance directive.

 

[NextBusLeaving]

I almost bought from him in June/July. I got the willies and backed out. Then I found out my gut was right as usual. All the crap happened shortly thereafter.

I can confirm he never asked me for a phone number. USPS WILL leave a post it call tag for a missed signature shipment up to 3x before returning. I have had this happen many times.

There is NO reason why anyone should take your phone number. I highly doubt he is paying a dude to drive around the country delivering illegal N and calling people like hes from Comcast giving them a 4 hour delivery window.

 

[realjunes]

I almost bought from him in June/July. I got the willies and backed out. Then I found out my gut was right as usual. All the crap happened shortly thereafter.

I can confirm he never asked me for a phone number. USPS WILL leave a post it call tag for a missed signature shipment up to 3x before returning. I have had this happen many times.

There is NO reason why anyone should take your phone number. I highly doubt he is paying a dude to drive around the country delivering illegal N and calling people like hes from Comcast giving them a 4 hour delivery window.

LOL. Classic, re: 4 hr window bit.

 

[NextBusLeaving]

LOL. Classic, re: 4 hr window bit.

Thanks lol but i mean really, why would ANY delivery service need to call? Fedex, UPS also leave the post-it if you miss them and its signature required. Its just very strange. And whats to prevent someone from using a burner #?

 

[DepressionsAHo]

Thanks lol but i mean really, why would ANY delivery service need to call? Fedex, UPS also leave the post-it if you miss them and its signature required. Its just very strange. And whats to prevent someone from using a burner #?

I ordered 15 days ago and was never asked for a phone number. That's why its concerning to me

 

[lymbo]

That's what I told him. It sounds like a huge scam but I'm bumping this to make sure I'm not wrong. As I told you before. I got your back buddy

you got the N ?

 

[Meant2Die]

The idea that you are more easily found through the phone is ridiculous when you understand that A also asks for a name/address to send the product to. Are you saying you were comfortable with giving those, but not a phone number? Even with a PO Box address which it tied to your real identity you can be easily found. And I don't assume every person who orders gives a false name /address bc then how would they get the package? Not to mention a lot of people are paying with western union or money gram where you have to show ID, easily traceable.

I agree the phone number seems a little weird, but if it's the police working undercover then when you give your address then they already have all they need. What is the number for then, to double check your identity? Do we really think they have enough time/resources to travel to EACH AND EVERY person who orders worldwide and pay them a visit? No, if the operation was overtaken by cops they are not waiting , twiddling their thumbs for incoming emails just so they can go and tell (mostly) old people that they can't die. There are seriously much more important types of crimes being committed that need attention. I know about the French raids and it's clear they somehow got a hold of names/addresses, but I really doubt they would continue using this email to lure old people in just so they can catch them in the act bc clearly there would be nothing to confiscate bc they would not send out the product in the first place.
Keep in mind the email address is still in the current Pph and they get a lot of feedback. If they suddenly had everyone saying they didn't receive it but instead got a visit from the police it wouldn't be in the Pph anymore.

As far as the phone is concerned, t's very easy to get a burner phone with no contract that is completely anonymous.

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

No, did I say that? The scam is elsewhere, via the doctoring of available sources of information, which we know about.

What you are referencing or what I think you are referencing is exactly what has made me so hesitant.


I think the police (at least in the USA) have a whole lot of other priorities than N. I mean I have no way of really knowing that to be true but with all the gun violence, heroin, opiods, illegal marijuana , and immigration issues, I doubt they have a "N team" I mean how many people order this product? The majority of which are probably seniors. I also Don't see 1 package of N being something a person is going to acquire to sell to someone else, N is not likely to be a drug sought after for recreation nor is the buyer likely to want it for anything other than using it themselves. It would seem like a waste of police resources.

I dont know why someone would ask for a phone number, unless they were delivering it themselves or with a personal locally based courier that could not make a return trip. Then again amazon asks for your phone number, and so do many shipping outlets such as Mailboxes Express.

Your address is all the information needed if its law enforcement.

No matter what with N you risk being scammed, not having it delivered (even from a legit source), or getting busted by law enforcement. Giving a phone number or not would not change that fact. Still it seems odd for some reason.

 

[Ssrejisser]

Maybe A asks for a phone number so the courier can call to let you know it is delivered so nobody else gets to that package before you, like an unsuspecting family member, etc...
But if that's what he is asking it for, he can simply explain this in the email too.

 

[DepressionsAHo]

you got the N ?

Not yet. Holidays slowed it down. I'll be posting on here when I get it

The idea that you are more easily found through the phone is ridiculous when you understand that A also asks for a name/address to send the product to. Are you saying you were comfortable with giving those, but not a phone number? Even with a PO Box address which it tied to your real identity you can be easily found. And I don't assume every person who orders gives a false name /address bc then how would they get the package? Not to mention a lot of people are paying with western union or money gram where you have to show ID, easily traceable.

I agree the phone number seems a little weird, but if it's the police working undercover then when you give your address then they already have all they need. What is the number for then, to double check your identity? Do we really think they have enough time/resources to travel to EACH AND EVERY person who orders worldwide and pay them a visit? No, if the operation was overtaken by cops they are not waiting , twiddling their thumbs for incoming emails just so they can go and tell (mostly) old people that they can't die. There are seriously much more important types of crimes being committed that need attention. I know about the French raids and it's clear they somehow got a hold of names/addresses, but I really doubt they would continue using this email to lure old people in just so they can catch them in the act bc clearly there would be nothing to confiscate bc they would not send out the product in the first place.
Keep in mind the email address is still in the current Pph and they get a lot of feedback. If they suddenly had everyone saying they didn't receive it but instead got a visit from the police it wouldn't be in the Pph anymore.

As far as the phone is concerned, t's very easy to get a burner phone with no contract that is completely anonymous.

You don't have to show ID when sending money, just when receiving it. I didnt when I used western union. As for the address, you can technically send it anywhere including somewhere that's not linked directly to you. You dont have to send it to your address or a PO box

 

[Ghosted]

I'll let you all know if the cops come knocking. No money has been sent. Monday I'll talk to a lawyer and see what they say.

I will say this. Every one I order from for legit stuff, like Etsy, Instacart, Amazon, etc... has my phone number. You'd be surprised how many delivery drivers will call me instead of using the call box. I have no idea who will be delivering.

 

[SerenitySeeker]

I've seen posts going all the way back into the mega thread saying that they were being asked to provide a phone number for contact for shipping. This all started after the July raids sometime mid August early September I want to say. So I don't believe that people have the wrong address, but it is sounding like some people are being asked for a number and some people aren't. And that in and of itself is strange and enough to give pause.

 

[sleepy dog]

I've seen posts going all the way back into the mega thread saying that they were being asked to provide a phone number for contact for shipping. This all started after the July raids sometime mid August early September I want to say. So I don't believe that people have the wrong address, but it is sounding like some people are being asked for a number and some people aren't. And that in and of itself is strange and enough to give pause.

I noticed that also. The phone number request seems to have started after the confiscations. When it happened with me, I said I would be using Bitcoin. Maybe the payment method decides if he will ask for it.

 

[DepressionsAHo]

I've seen posts going all the way back into the mega thread saying that they were being asked to provide a phone number for contact for shipping. This all started after the July raids sometime mid August early September I want to say. So I don't believe that people have the wrong address, but it is sounding like some people are being asked for a number and some people aren't. And that in and of itself is strange and enough to give pause.

It's just a bit odd and very troublesome to add and take out certain parts of the initial email depending on the payment but if others were asked for a phone number, then I guess its entirely possible that he is doing so and I was wrong

 

[Meant2Die]

I noticed that also. The phone number request seems to have started after the confiscations. When it happened with me, I said I would be using Bitcoin. Maybe the payment method decides if he will ask for it.

I don't believe it does bc when I emailed to inquire about general info the request for a phone number was already in the first email from him. The first email lays out all the details needed. Then I emailed from another account and also got that same response. He told me the same thing as the others when I asked about it bc it also made me uncomfortable, which is that the number was needed so they can notify you of a missed delivery and where to go to get it.

 

[sleepy dog]

I gave him a fake number. He then replied with the bitcoin address to send payment to. So its not like hes verifying somehow that person owns the phone account. It is really seeming more bizarre that he asks for a phone number. What is he up to. Maybe law enforcement can find you easier if they have a way to put in a phone number and locate where a cell phone is at. Maybe people need to start demanding a valid reason for asking for it, then refuse to order when he doesn't explain. The shipping thing doesn't make sense.