Others are selfish, not us

[behindtheboathouse]

People don't want us to CTB because of their selfish desire to have company, and not wanting to deal with grief. If they truly cared about me, they'd support my wish to be peaceful for eternity. i'm not happy here, and i'm sick of being guilt tripped into staying alive.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Everyone has the "selfish gene" coined by Atheist Superstar Richard Dawkins.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yeah- I do agree with you. I feel like- if you TRULY love someone- you want what is best for them. On the face of it, I understand why 'normal' people are horrified that someone may think that suicide is their best option. Some problems aren't fixable though. Some people just don't have the will or energy left to put in (the likely enormous effort) required to change their lives.

Sometimes it's so obvious too. Someone is in chronic, untreatable pain. Someone has exhausted pretty much all the 'help' resources out there. Yet- they're still expected to carry on for the sake of others. I agree- it does seem selfish to me too.

I just wish we could have open and honest discussions about this. Rather than being terrified of being sectioned 'for your own safety.' What good is even more money being poured into services to support 'mental illness' (seeing as they always seem to attribute ideation to this) if we can't actually be honest!

The crisis team got in touch with me as a result of the recent wellness checks. One of them actually said- 'Think of what it would do to your family.' I was so angry- but I tried to stay calm. I didn't think hysteria would come across well- given the circumstances. It's not entirely their fault- because they didn't know. (I didn't actually want their 'services/help'- I was just trying to get rid of them as quickly as possible.) Still- I've had ideation for 33 years! The main reason I'm still here is precisely BECAUSE I'm hanging on for my family! It REALLY pissed me off that they assume that this is a recent development AND that you haven't gone through all the likely consequences of your action in your head. I thought these were professionals. I really wasn't expecting a guilt trip! This whole recent business just feels like it's made everything worse for people.

 

[Deleted member 31858]

Forcing a person to spend the rest of their life suffering in order to feel good about themselves is the most selfish thing that can exist. Sometimes I also think that secretly some pro-lifers would like to die but don't want to admit it.

 

[Deadweight]

Never understood the 'think of others' line. I don't need the extra guilt over how I'm feeling. Being told to think of others by people who lack the empathy to see it from your perspective. Some much hypocrisy

 

[SilentSadness]

They are certainly selfish. It is especially bizarre when a preventionist doesn't know the person they're talking to and suddenly says that they need to stay alive for them.

 

[hellispink]

All humans are selfish, no exception. One group more than the other yes.

 

[FuneralCry]

No matter what other people say, the fact is that nobody is obligated to continue existing here, as after all we were so cruelly and selfishly forced into existence in the first place. If people don't wish to deal with loss then they shouldn't procreate, grief and loss are just inevitable as long as one exists here as we all have to die and lose everything someday. Trying to force somebody to suffer against their wishes is inhumane.

 

[behindtheboathouse]

All humans are selfish, no exception. One group more than the other yes.

no i agree, i'm also selfish in many ways.

 

[hodbu]

People don't want us to CTB because of their selfish desire to have company, and not wanting to deal with grief. If they truly cared about me, they'd support my wish to be peaceful for eternity. i'm not happy here, and i'm sick of being guilt tripped into staying alive.

Totally. Like I always say - these people ain't paying your rent or helping your life.

But they try to dictate your life in this way while not improving it actively. So they're the selfish ones who try to play god on your life.