Only Suicidal People Will Understand

[OverIt1976]

I know in my own experience suicidal ideation and attempts, there is one commonality that WE all share. No one, but us will understand, grasp or ever feel it. So, it makes me pissed when people say, it will get better. That's the worst thing to say to someone with a knife to their wrist. During serious conversations with healthcare providers, family and friends I somehow always get pushed to repeat the one thing everyone of us have in common.

When you get to the point of suicide, and when you actually try to carry it out (successful or not) there is NOTHING anyone can do. Unless you've been in this state of mind, you will not understand it. At the point of an attempt, the hurting person FEELS that they have extinguished all options. That there is no help left, that there is no alternative. That this is the final solution to their pain, grief and/or anger. There comes a moment in the weeks, days, or even hours before that person makes that final decision where everything is clear. Where everything is calm because they know that the end is nigh, and their pain will stop.

People who don't have these thoughts will never get it. They will try to rationalize it as the person was weak, or didn't try all the options available. or they are selfish. I know people mean well, and that the topic of suicide is taboo, and they want to say the right thing, but there is nothing right to say. That person is locked in on what they are planning, very rarely will they magically come out of it. Most people who aren't successful in the CTB is because they panicked, or someone stopped them, or interrupted, or in a rare moment they have a hint of something that makes them second-guess. I've never had that hint, all four of my attempts have been end of the road, final deletion; but I've been interrupted. Once was by my dog needing to go potty. One was my husband calling 911. One was in 2005 when i took LOADS of sleeping pills and vodka, along with every pill I could find in my home. My neighbor somehow (I still don't know how) rushed me to the ER. The fourth, back in September 2024 was the CO2 chamber that should have worked, but the hoses were too small.

Anyway, I know this is rambling and controversial. But it's nice to finally have a pace were I can post and not be judged.

 

[maylurker]

They will try to rationalize it as the person was weak

yes thats crazy. completely zero respect to real life struggles

 

[amor.dor]

Society treats the suicidal person as someone who has lost their reason, never as someone who may be reasoning lucidly...however painfully ,about their own existence. This is a trap: by denying the possibility of conscious suffering, dialogue becomes impossible. If a person has already reached the point of considering death, any argument that ignores the depth of their despair sounds like cheap manipulation.

But I also think that, because society holds vitalist values, it is already acting from the wrong place. To understand someone's position, you must try to see through their eyes — no matter how I think it through, I always reach the conclusion that expecting ordinary people to understand a suicidal person is simply a waste of time.

 

[FadingSnowFake]

People who don't have these thoughts will never get it

Agree 100%

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

idk i guess if i would try to talk to normies or prolifers about suicide they would look at me like i'm crazy. like wtf it's just words.

we are all going to die anyway and very soon too because how fast did this year 2025 fly by? but they don't ever talk even about that Death and the certaintity.

as evidence i've never heard this statement anywhere : every one of the 8 billion humans alive now will be dead in 130 years. that can';t be denied but no one has ever said it or at least i;ve never seen it .

we will all be dead soon but the horror is one second of the worst pain can seem to last for years: so i will suicide to skip over any extreme torture and get to the safety and beauty of Non-Existence forever

this is the only place i can talk abuout suicide or even Death. Death is the only certaintitty the first principle but everyone is brainwashed to not even talk about it. it's an impending inevitability . imo most humans are not aware they will die ( of course no one talks about it so) . they sure don't have that knowledge internalized imo. yeah if i bring it up they get reminded and can't deny it . but they don't get the conection when i say how fast time passes : the implication is we are all going to be dead very soon . but they will quickly forget and get back to the "important" stuff watching the game, or the movie or "enjoying" yourself or doing meaningless holiday stuff ( when a holiday is no different from another day).

Death is certain for all. i and every human will be dead in 130 years. in 130 years it wll be as if all 8 billion humans alive now never existed in the first place.

life is but a brief blink in time . the normal state of a human or anything is Non-Existence. i any of us didn't exist for 13.8 billion years . then we were birthed into a torture chamber a hell for a very brief time and then back to eternal Non-existence

Death is not optional . Death is the obliteration of a human for all time. and these ideas of some afterlife or reincarnation are just lies because there is no evidence but massive to the contrary of what a human is an animal cells , chemical reactions a machine.