Discussion Older members on this forum, have any advice for us younger things?

[Santiago]

Yeah, where there are people who are smart enough to see through most of the bullshit life has to offer... The worst place to seek advice, definitely... /S

More like the place where the majority doesn't have the ability to be objective, but instead think life revolves around them and their views are the only correct ones.

Doesn't seem like you really learned your lesson though, does it? If you did find your way out of whatever brings you here then well you wouldn't be here

 

[Severen]

More like the place where the majority doesn't have the ability to be objective, but instead think life revolves around them and their views are the only correct ones.

If you think so lowly of this community then why don't you leave? And are you sure you aren't just guilty of projection?

Psychological projection - Wikipedia

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[Santiago]

If you think so lowly of this community then why don't you leave? And are you sure you aren't just guilty of projection?

Psychological projection - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't think lowly of this community. You are putting words into my mouth. I am making an observation.

How is it psychological projection when I am actually the one being objective? I am in the same boat as you all (being suicidal). Doesn't mean you can't be neutral.

 

[Severen]

I don't think lowly of this community. You are putting words into my mouth. I am making an observation.

How is it psychological projection when I am actually the one being objective? I am in the same boat as you all (being suicidal). Doesn't mean you can't be neutral.

Well clearly, you are not able to think objectively if you can write off an entire community of all kinds of different people from all over the world, simply because they are in favor of suicide for a variety of different reasons. You need to work on your ability when it comes to logic. Not all suicidal people are that way, due to their brain being essentially in a state of madness. Many of them, yes.... Not all of them. There's people here who just need some damn medication. And there are people here, who are highly intelligent and with pure logic, concluded that life is not worth living except under very unique circumstances.

 

[Santiago]

Well clearly, you are not able to think objectively if you can write off an entire community of all kinds of different people from all over the world, simply because they are in favor of suicide for a variety of different reasons. You need to work on ability when it comes to logic.

I'll promise I'll work on my logic if you promise how to read. I said majority. Not the entire community. It's a very simple observation if you just look at the variety of posts on here. Many people are stuck in their view of life.

Neither am I questioning their intelligence.

 

[Severen]

I'll promise I'll work on my logic if you promise how to read. I said majority. Not the entire community. It's a very simple observation if you just look at the variety of posts on here. Many people are stuck in their view of life.

Neither am I questioning their intelligence.

I know how to read and accusing the "majority" of people here for not having the ability to be objective is just as ridiculous as accusing the entire community. So I interpreted it, the same way. There is very little difference, between the two, really. I've only seen a handful of posts here, where people are just wanting to kill themselves because they failed to live up to the brainwashing that was shoved into their brain since they were children. And you'd still be better off, trying to get good advice here, than in some other community full of your typical mainstream fucking brain dead chimps who see themselves as human beings, which is pretty much most communities on the fucking internet. Yeah, I'd rather look for advice here instead of communities inhabited by essentially a bunch of fucking soulless zombies.

 

[Santiago]

I know how to read and accusing the "majority" of people here for not having the ability to be objective is just as ridiculous as accusing the entire community. So I interpreted it, the same way. There is very little difference, between the two, really. I've only seen a handful of posts here, where people are just wanting to kill themselves because they failed to live up to the brainwashing that was shoved into their brain since they were children.

And you say I need to work on my ability when it comes to logic?

Apparently 'everyone' now equals 'majority.' There is not much to interpret there. They are two different words.

Also never did I say the majority of the people here are not being objective in their reasons to commit suicide (we weren't even talking about that.) I said the forum in general is a pretty biased place on many different topics. Such as the pro-life vs pro-choice discussion to just give you one example.

 

[Severen]

And you say I need to work on my ability when it comes to logic?

Apparently 'everyone' now equals 'majority.' There is not much to interpret there. They are two different words.

Also never did I say the majority of the people here are not being objective in their reasons to commit suicide (we weren't even talking about that.) I said the forum in general is a pretty biased place on many different topics. Such as the pro-life vs pro-choice discussion to just give you one example.

Both statements you wrote are completely absurd. And how can you say "More like the place where the majority doesn't have the ability to be objective, but instead think life revolves around them and their views are the only correct ones." and then deny saying you didn't say the majority of the people here are not being objective in their reasons for committing suicide? You are starting to come off as a troll.

 

[Santiago]

Both statements you wrote are completely absurd.

What statements are you referring to?

 

[Severen]

What statements are you referring to?

 

[Santiago]

Oh god you really need to learn how to read immediately.

You realise

More like the place where the majority doesn't have the ability to be objective, but instead think life revolves around them and their views are the only correct ones

can refer to multiple different topics right? This forum isn't only about the act of suicide. People discuss all kinds of things on here. People can be objective in their reasons to kill themselves, but can still have a very subjective view on life. Which remember is the topic of this thread. Advice on life. Doesn't seem like you should be asking that to people who want to step out of it.

You are a prime example of not being able to come up with any decent arguments while I am trying to have a productive discussion so you jump to things like 'oh you must be a troll.' You might think it is weird I ask you what statements you are referring to so you respond with a stupid GIF, but remember you literally just insinuated everyone equals majority so I have to make sure you aren't just making stuff up in your mind again.

I am really wasting my time with you. Have a nice day sir. You can have the last word.

 

[Severen]

Oh god you really need to learn how to read immediately.

You realise can refer to multiple different topics right? This forum isn't only about the act of suicide. People discuss all kinds of things on here. People can be objective in their reasons to kill themselves, but can still have a very subjective view on life. Which remember is the topic of this thread. Advice on life. Doesn't seem like you should be asking that to people who want to step out of it.

You are a prime example of not being able to come up with any decent arguments while I am trying to have a productive discussion so you jump to things like 'oh you must be a troll.' You might think it is weird I ask you what statements you are referring to so you respond with a stupid GIF, but remember you literally just insinuated everyone equals majority so I have to make sure you aren't just making stuff up in your mind again.

I am really wasting my time with you. Have a nice day sir

Duh, because if someone is capable of being objective when it comes to committing suicide, it's not like the second they switch to another topic, they are going to revert into brainwashed dumb ass mode. Because they already learned the ability to see things, objectively... If someone learns how to be good at something like Parkour for example, its not like if you change their environment, they wont know WTF to do.

Doesn't seem like you really learned your lesson though, does it? If you did find your way out of whatever brings you here then well you wouldn't be here

That's EXACTLY why I am here. Because I LEARNED about life.

 

[tomz323]

You really want life advice from people on a suicide forum? Seems odd

Yes actually, the perfect people to give advice. We're all suicidal which is why we're here, people with more life experience can help set us younger things back on the right path of life.

 

[Severen]

Yes actually, the perfect people to give advice. We're all suicidal which is why we're here, people with more life experience can help set us younger things back on the right path of life.

Yeah, because when you go through a massive amount of pain and suffering, all you have to do is just tell people to not do what you did... It's like someone walking through a portal into hell, then coming back out. And telling people, not to go in there... But it seems some people would rather get advice from some mainstream sub reddit where people will tell them, just to do some Yoga, get some vitamin D, exercise, work hard and save money. LMAO.

 

[tomz323]

Yeah, because when you go through a massive amount of pain and suffering, all you have to do is just tell people to not do what you did... It's like someone walking through a portal into hell, then coming back out. And telling you, not to go in there... But it seems some people would rather get advice from some mainstream sub reddit where people will tell them, just to do some Yoga, get some vitamin D, exercise and work hard. LMAO.

Precisely, I didn't want to frame the question like that however as to not come across as rude. Kinda mean to ask people how I don't make their fuck ups haha. Allot of what I've found online is very mainstream hard to find raw advice.

 

[Severen]

Precisely, I didn't want to frame the question like that however as to not come across as rude. Kinda mean to ask people how I don't make their fuck ups haha. Allot of what I've found online is very mainstream hard to find raw advice.

Have you ever seen the movie Event Horizon? A lot of the people here are like members of the original crew...

 

[tomz323]

Have you ever seen the movie Event Horizon? A lot of the people here are like members of the original crew...

I haven't unfortunately, whats it about?

 

[been_there]

Value yourself. Be independent. Create something, anything, even it being good at it takes time. Find what you enjoy and stick to it. Reserve your trust for those who earn it. Don't have relationships with anyone who doesn't value you, or is on a selfish agenda (children, money, status). Be brave. Think critically. Read books. Find art, music that speaks to you. Travel if you can. Stand up for yourself. Know if nothing works you can always ctb on your own terms.

 

[Dead beat dad]

Life advice I mean?

Avoid debt unless it is crucial.
Read and write often.
Numchucks really are rad, as is playing the guitar.
Be kind
Speak less, listen more.
Do the odd kind thing for those that need it.
Learn how to plan and organise.
I could go on but lastly;
You can't fuck the future, the future fucks you.

Good luck with your journey brother

DBD (38, but feels about 98)

Life advice I mean?

Oh one more for the road

Bad decisions = Good stories

 

[AngelGirl]

Sometimes I wish my life was different. I'm in my mid twenties but I often feel like it's too late.

I want to ctb but at the same time I am so scared of actually doing it. I am also too scared to try to change my life. I genuinely don't know which is easier, killing myself or having a life that I dream of.

I'm just not brave enough, I feel that I'm stuck with my miserable current life and it's going to be miserable forever until the day I die.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Yeah just don't have children unless your healthy enough to take care of them. That is my advice.

 

[Iceangel]

:( I hope love is real

Love is real. Its also very fleeting if you find it don't let go.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Follow your instincts.
Do a job you enjoy.
Stay clear of debt.
If you love someone, tell them.
Work isn't living, make time for other things.
Travel broadens the mind.
Be tolerant.
Don't believe everything they tell you.

 

[Severen]

I haven't unfortunately, whats it about?

Humanity creates a space ship capable of going from point A to point B in the future, instantly... But while this space ship is traveling from point A to point B, this space ship enters a different reality because there is more than one reality in that movie... The people who created this space ship was not aware of this and neither was the original crew... But I don't want to spoil the movie for you.

 

[Divine Trinity]

-Look at your parents, that's likely your future
-Stay away from propaganda and commercial distractions
-Travel as much as possible
-Don't put people, individually or overall, on a pedestal
-Learn to recognize a con artist
-Don't have expectations
-read literature that you don't understand
-interact with your community
-Diversify your daily routine
-Ask what's the context to people's behavior
-Question yourself if most people agree with you
-Don't have kids, they'll thank you later
-We do not create anything, we take what's around us, use what we know, combine them together, take notes, and pass it on for future reference
-Always actively question authority, no matter how entitled they feel to their power
-Realize nobody really knows what they're talking about
-Adults are babies with pubic hair

 

[Orin]

There are three types of conceit:

"I am better than others."

"I am worse than others."

"I am the same as others."

 

[riverstyx]

I guess there's lots of things. Too bad people never follow their own suggestions

• start saving money / investing early, an early retirement is possible if you're up for it, search for fire reddit on google
• don't be a coward, push your limits
• learn how to and practise abusing people who abuse you, defend yourself
• if possible avoid people you feel might be toxic, abusing or simply not good for you, don't be complacent about staying in bad relationships to save your ego or some other bullshit reason
• take care of your body, learn how to appreciate and make natural and nutritious food, exercise or stay physically active, the last one is extra important if you have a desk job

 

[Severen]

Love is real. Its also very fleeting if you find it don't let go.

I'd say, let it go as soon as possible because the pain from losing something like that...makes it not worth it. Probably one of the best ways, life can troll you. Give you something really nice and then rip it away from you, basically.

 

[Hennessy]

Learn another language. This will be helpfull and bring you joy.

 

[Severen]

Never ever ever borrow a massive amount of money unless you are 100% sure can pay it back. And when I mean "sure", I mean, you already have everything set up, waiting for you. And not just your arrogance or your confidence making you think you are 100% sure.