Method Od on Drugs that induce coma + Drowning

[JadedBeing]

So ODing on an Opioid on its own can be risky because of multiple factors like purity and stuff. But when you combine it with drowning you get the Best of both worlds, unconciousness from the OD and almost certain death from drowning if no one rescues you. If i remember correctly that's how the friends Actor Matthew Perry died after years of depression/derealization and drug use. Btw He Made a good movie about his life and his mental struggle called "numb", good movie. He died taking Ketamine, going unconcious and drowning in his Pool.
So combined with drowning your choice of drugs to OD with is much Bigger. Opioids like Fentanyl can Induce coma even in low doses, but Ketamine too, and theres another drug called GHB (its also used by mixing it into drinks to make people go unconcious so they can do stuff to them). I'm sure there are more drugs that may not kill you with 100% certainty but make you go unconcious.

My Biggest wish is to die without pain while being unconcious and this combo seems like its possible and not that hard to accomplish since you can buy Ketamine and GHB from many dealers nowadays. Mixing in some Benzos, alcohol and if you can get your hands on fentanyl or Heroin may increase chances of coma even more and reduce anxiety.

Vomiting is a big risk factor tho. So maybe drinking less but more potent alcohol and taking antiemetics is a good idea. IVing the coma inducing drug would be ideal.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I believe complete unconsciousness is hard to achieve. If fire breaks out most people are able to run away even when they are sleeping. The fear of death will make you wake up and swim to the shore. OD is not a switch of your consciousness. I think it is likely to be painful, and even unsuccessful.

 

[JadedBeing]

I believe complete unconsciousness is hard to achieve. If fire breaks out most people are able to run away even when they are sleeping. The fear of death will make you wake up and swim to the shore. OD is not a switch of your consciousness. I think it is likely to be painful, and even unsuccessful.

Complete unconciousness is not that hard to achive. People go unconcious and die with just ODing. The drowning is just an extra nail in the coffin. Sleeping and coma are not the same.

 

[Intoxicated]

Relying on coma looks like an oversimplified idea of unconscious drowning. A lot of things will happen before you actually reach that level of deep unconsciousness. I would consider the following periods and their relations.

• t(LOBC) - time to loss of bodily control - time to loss of the ability to support your head above the water level.
• t(submerging) - time to submerging.
• t(aspiration) - time to aspiration of water when the ability to hold your breath is lost (either due to unbearable urge to breathe or loss of conscious control over respiration).
• t(analgesia) - time to analgesia - time to reducing the sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning to an acceptable degree.
• t(LOS) - time to loss of sensitivity - time to complete loss of sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning (perfect condition).
• t(LOC1) - time to loss of consciousness for the first time.
• t(LOCL) - time to loss of consciousness for the last time - can be the same as t(LOC1).
• t(coma) - time to coma.

We can surely tell that

t(LOBC) < t(LOC1)
t(submerging) ≤ t(aspiration)
t(analgesia) < t(LOS)
t(analgesia) < t(LOCL)
t(LOS) ≤ t(LOCL)
t(LOC1) ≤ t(LOCL) < t(coma)

It's also likely that

t(aspiration) < t(LOC1)
t(analgesia) < t(LOC1)

The most important relations that determine potential distress from drowning are

t(aspiration) ? t(analgesia)
t(aspiration) ? t(LOS)

If t(aspiration) ≥ t(LOS), this is perfect.
If t(analgesia) ≤ t(aspiration) < t(LOS), this is good (but not perfect).
If t(aspiration) < t(analgesia), this is not so good, and greater values of t(analgesia) - t(aspiration) mean worse overall discomfort.

The maximum potentially possible duration of significant discomfort, t(analgesia) - t(aspiration), depends on how fast loss of consciousness is produced. Methods that produce unconsciousness in about 30 seconds would less likely allow prolonged distress than methods that produce unconsciousness in 5 minutes.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Relying on coma looks like an oversimplified idea of unconscious drowning. A lot of things will happen before you actually reach that level of deep unconsciousness. I would consider the following periods and their relations.

• t(LOBC) - time to loss of bodily control - time to loss of the ability to support your head above the water level.
• t(submerging) - time to submerging.
• t(aspiration) - time to aspiration of water when the ability to hold your breath is lost (either due to unbearable urge to breathe or loss of conscious control over respiration).
• t(analgesia) - time to analgesia - time to reducing the sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning to an acceptable degree.
• t(LOS) - time to loss of sensitivity - time to complete loss of sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning (perfect condition).
• t(LOC1) - time to loss of consciousness for the first time.
• t(LOCL) - time to loss of consciousness for the last time - can be the same as t(LOC1).
• t(coma) - time to coma.

We can surely tell that

t(LOBC) < t(LOC1)
t(submerging) ≤ t(aspiration)
t(analgesia) < t(LOS)
t(analgesia) < t(LOCL)
t(LOS) ≤ t(LOCL)
t(LOC1) ≤ t(LOCL) < t(coma)

It's also likely that

t(aspiration) < t(LOC1)
t(analgesia) < t(LOC1)

The most important relations that determine potential distress from drowning are

t(aspiration) ? t(analgesia)
t(aspiration) ? t(LOS)

If t(aspiration) ≥ t(LOS), this is perfect.
If t(analgesia) ≤ t(aspiration) < t(LOS), this is good (but not perfect).
If t(aspiration) < t(analgesia), this is not so good, and greater values of t(analgesia) - t(aspiration) mean worse overall discomfort.

The maximum potentially possible duration of significant discomfort, t(analgesia) - t(aspiration), depends on how fast loss of consciousness is produced. Methods that produce unconsciousness in about 30 seconds would less likely allow prolonged distress than methods that produce unconsciousness in 5 minutes.

Thank you for this.

I was wondering how ambien/alprazolam would fit into this scheme. I was calculating that loss of bodily control would roughly coincide with LOC and would at the least result in some degree of analgesia if not loss of sensitivity, enough to make it viable.

 

[notreallybored]

ב''ה, vaguely hesitant to post this for how viable it seems, but it's just a thought and 'information wants to be free.' Also not sure drowning is really pleasant but probably nothing is.

Never got into GHB but there is a comedian with his story of incidentally taking a dozen doses (on top of a night of liquor) from a jug that may have contained other residues (opiates and whatnot unless someone with high logic stirred them in to 'make it better') and making it from a parking lot back into a bar before waking up in the hospital.

Knew that crowd back in GHB's heydey but skipped that trip myself.

Now, with a bit of self control, something like this involving an air mattress and some water .. might be a way to go.

However, as the math rock elsewhere in this thread points out, subjectively passing out compared to what's full anesthesia or at least somnolence and 'what actually happens' is complicated by the potential for amnesia in that blurry portion between doing something to excess and actually passing out. Anyone with access to Ambien or benzos and a credit card knows about that part.

So, going to leave it at, if somehow you have all this and maybe guzzle it all and then rip a fat line of K.. experience with other dissociatives suggests that might be so much anesthetic dissociative confusion that if any consciousness remains you might not be able to even notice that you're drowning, except even then I'd be sketched out that the 'rolling off the mattress into the water' would occur at a relatively high point of consciousness enough for muscles to still work so with my luck I'd be relatively conscious for exactly that moment.

But if the assignment is, y'know, making going under in a pool or the ocean unnoticeable / painless, probably the combination of GHB, benzos/Ambien, and however you get that much K into you seems like it maybe would be as good as it gets.

Edit: As much as I didn't say it, if y'all have resources for all this, sailboat with a valve on a timer and you get a nice bunk to lay out in while. Funny how the costs are directly comparable to what the Swiss demand.

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Thank you for this.

I was wondering how ambien/alprazolam would fit into this scheme. I was calculating that loss of bodily control would roughly coincide with LOC and would at the least result in some degree of analgesia if not loss of sensitivity, enough to make it viable.

Came here looking to ask the same.....I have a few dozen xanax and a few dozen Ambien. If I ingest them all with alcohol, will that guarantee death? Will I simply pass out and die or will it be more violent and graphic?

 

[BullsDon'tFly]

I don't know about Matthew Perry's method but I wouldn't rely on something happening after my loss of consciousness for me to CTB, if it is not the very same thing that made me pass out in the first place. I don't like combo ideas like opiates+jumping from a bridge, anesthetic+hanging etc. Being dizzy doesn't help performing the attempt in the optimal way and there's no guarantee you'll fall in the pool the moment you pass out if you're outside.
The only combo I think to be bulletproof is SN + exit bag right after drinking, to pass out from hypoxia more quickly, but they're both proper methods on their own so you don't have to nail correctly EB performing since SN is going to work anyway. However, SN and inert gasses are the most difficult thing to obtain to CTB, so it would be a pain in the ass to get both at the same time. One of them should work fine tbh.

 

[d4isy]

i thought about doing this in the tub since hot water dilates your blood vessels and makes it more likely you'll pass out, especially if you're drinking. i don't have access to opioids but i do have some bromazepam and atarax.

but idk, it's a risky method. scared my face will stay above the water when i pass out.

 

[xBrialesana]

Came here looking to ask the same.....I have a few dozen xanax and a few dozen Ambien. If I ingest them all with alcohol, will that guarantee death? Will I simply pass out and die or will it be more violent and graphic?

Yes tolerance does matter and yes I suppose it could be incredibly dangerous either way… but unfortunately it would take more than a few dozen ambien/xanax. I was on both of them for 17 years (since I was TWELVE) off them now; getting off them was the first time they almost killed me. But I spent days of my life periodically researching this(prescriptions in general because I always had a lot), and they were made too safe. But be careful. Save them because no matter what, they will help whatever you end up doing. I wish I had some benzo spare please hold them tight lol