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ShinyScissors

ShinyScissors

Another artist who wants to die
Feb 8, 2023
59
Other poor methods I've seen suggested:

- Trying to get hit by a car
- Trying to die by animals (jumping in a zoo enclosure, etc)
- Trying to get STD's and other lethal diseases
- Trying to die in a car crash
- Machinery

Some machinery (I imagine, anyway; I can't think of a non-horrific shop tool for suicide) and car crashes are arguable to an extent but I think in general they're unreliable and very risky, having a good chance of leaving you alive with a mangled body or causing collateral damage.
Wtf I am seriously concerned for those trying to cannon ball into a poor animal's home that's fucking traumatizing for everyone?

And collecting STDs like Pokémon cards is horrific and it's not nice to share. I am in disbelief with what wild ideas people come up with
Although I don't think anyone would consider this, I wanted to add intentional food poisoning to the list of non-methods. I've had extremely serious food poisoning three times in my life - all accidental of course - and it is horrific. I refuse to go anywhere near hospitals or doctors, so I had to ride them all out. The first time I got so severely dehydrated that I could not stand or even sit without getting dizzy and falling. The second and third time I was both peeing and pooping blood. I had uncontrolable vomiting, diarrhea, cramping, unbelievable pain all over my body (the toxins from poisoning can travel to your entire system) and I thought I was going to die. I clearly did not, but my digestive system has still not recovered from the last time, which was last year. I have had problems digesting food since then, likely have SIBO and still have problems with loose, unpredictable poop. Food poisoning can kill a person, but there are way too many factors and most people survive.

To this day, I keep activated charcoal capsules in my home, car and at work. At the first sign of possible food poisoning, I take them until all signs end. I'm not giving medical advice, but that is the path that works for me since I won't touch western medicine. There's no way I'm going through this again.
Dear lord what are you eating to cause this kind of frequency? My heart goes out to you
 
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sugarb

thief of silent dreams
Jun 14, 2024
797
Wtf I am seriously concerned for those trying to cannon ball into a poor animal's home that's fucking traumatizing for everyone?

And collecting STDs like Pokémon cards is horrific and it's not nice to share. I am in disbelief with what wild ideas people come up with
I know right? I think a chunk of these are pretty much just thought exercises (I've have had some silly ones myself) but the fact that bugchasing (trying to get STD's/diseases) is an actual phenomenon is crazy to me lol
 
TrigSpook

TrigSpook

Meow
Jun 2, 2023
6
mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.
Wish I knew this when I attempted on acetaminophen, turned yellow and ruined my liver. It was so painful. Didn't seek medical care so I was basically bedridden for a week in agony. Ever since then my body has a hard time swallowing pills.
 
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AuroraB

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Oct 20, 2024
164
DO NOT buy any Rebreather Debreather whatever it's called from Richard Avocet at Respiro. So far, all 3 versions have failed and nobody who brought one (dozens of people I personally know and from online) ever received a refund or promise of an upgrade, etc.-- Even though it's been discussed in the past on Exit/PPH (etc), I think it's a scam. Save your $300 or $400.
 
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AuroraB

Student
Oct 20, 2024
164
DO NOT buy any Rebreather Debreather whatever it's called from Richard Avocet at Respiro. So far, all 3 versions have failed and nobody who brought one (dozens of people I personally know and from online) ever received a refund or promise of an upgrade, etc.-- Even though it's been discussed in the past on Exit/PPH (etc), I think it's a scam. Save your $300 or $400.
oops, bought. not brought. sorry.
 
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hollywhite13

Member
Apr 4, 2024
33
I'm actually far from ignorant on this, I work in healthcare and plan on CTB with two cardiac meds that I have full confidence will kill me. I don't advise people on proper methods as I don't like the concept of being part of helping someone CTB even inadvertently, I only advise people on what not to do in order to prevent harm. As such I will not be giving any advice on what medications do fall into the highly lethal list. If someone wants to go that route they will have to figure it out without my help. I apologize for the attitude as I sometimes give a bad vibe through text since tone of voice is lacking.
 
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Member
Nov 20, 2023
9
当你想选择一辆高速列车时,你需要观察列车底部的空间是否小到足以压垮身体
 
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meowcat

Experienced
Aug 9, 2018
239
mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.
Thank you for this post.
 
simplyshmee

simplyshmee

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33
Very informative thread as a whole.
 
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die 333

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mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
Questo metodo è spesso ricercato da persone che l'hanno visto in film o programmi TV. Non dovrebbe essere considerato un metodo, poiché è solo in questi programmi per esaltarlo nei film. Con un tasso di successo di circa l'1-4%, le probabilità sono l'opposto a tuo favore. Mentre ti fanno sembrare come se potessi prendere una lametta al polso e scivolare pacificamente nell'incoscienza nella vasca da bagno, in realtà non è niente del genere. Il corpo umano è programmato per non essere in grado di farsi del male in questo modo. Per morire di perdita di sangue dovresti tagliare un'arteria. Le arterie sono meticolosamente posizionate sotto diversi strati di muscoli, tendini e altri tessuti. Non sono fatte per essere tagliate, soprattutto non di proposito. Anche con una meravigliosa comprensione dell'anatomia, come gli operatori sanitari, avresti una possibilità molto, molto scarsa di raggiungerli a meno che tu non fossi in uno stato di psicosi. Se ci provassi, ti ritroveresti a metà strada prima di realizzare che mentalmente e fisicamente non puoi andare oltre. La tua mente ti fermerà senza che tu abbia alcun controllo su di essa. Molte persone sostengono che se si ubriacano o si drogano prima saranno in grado di superarlo, tuttavia ciò comprometterebbe la tua capacità di localizzare e tagliare correttamente le arterie. Il rischio più grande con questo metodo è un danno permanente ai nervi in qualsiasi area tu tenti di tagliare. A seconda di quanto in profondità vai prima di abortire, potresti finire con gravi cicatrici e potenzialmente anemia o altre condizioni correlate alla perdita di sangue.

VSED (interruzione volontaria di mangiare e bere)
Questo metodo è spesso ricercato da persone che ne sentono parlare nei pazienti terminali in hospice. Questi pazienti sono sotto le cure di professionisti medici che prescrivono loro sedativi pesanti e antidolorifici per assicurarsi che siano il meno possibile in difficoltà, così come probabilmente nelle fasi avanzate della morte in cui si perdono i segnali di sete e fame. Viene anche raramente utilizzato in persone che hanno raggiunto stati estremi di illuminazione spirituale. In generale, qualcuno che non soddisfa nessuno di questi criteri non sarà in grado di avere successo nel VSED. Attualmente ci sono 0 casi confermati di questo su questo sito, nonostante molti, molti tentativi, me compreso. Mentre le persone hanno l'impressione che non consumare assolutamente cibo o liquidi ti ucciderà entro 3 giorni al massimo, questo è un mito. Il corpo ha il potenziale per resistere molto più a lungo senza assolutamente nulla. Man mano che ti addentri sempre di più nella disidratazione e negli squilibri elettrolitici, il tuo stato mentale inizierà a soffrire. Il tuo corpo farà di tutto per ottenere una sorta di carburante. Se hai accesso a cibo o acqua, alla fine sarai sopraffatto da un desiderio vorace e primitivo di mangiare e bere qualsiasi cosa sul tuo cammino. Alla fine cederai. E poi ti sarai sottoposto a giorni e giorni di questo per niente.
Thanks you so much for the explanation. I wanted to attempt suicide with paracetamol, I thank you so much because you saved me exhausting pain and failure
 
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Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

And what if I cut my wrists? How long it would take to blood out?
Here one of he heros of polish drama cut his wrists and blood out
 
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Skathon

Skathon

"...scarred underneath, and I'm falling..."
Oct 29, 2018
592
the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method
Barbiturates (including pentobarbital) are sold over the counter in some countries. Are they not a relatively reliable method?
by your country's government through rigorous testing
Lol. This is only the case in developed countries.
 
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I_go_in

Member
Nov 5, 2024
30
He's talking about Digoxen and amitriptyline (the cardiac meds) with benzos and maybe even opiates.

Example dosage for virgin to benzos and opiates:
* 20mg of metoclopramide
*100mg of digoxin
*20gm of morphine (use stronger shit if you have tolerance)
* 1gm of diazepam (just take shitloads of Xanax if you want)
* 8gm of amitriptyline
* 5gm of phenobarbital
Barbiturates (including pentobarbital) are sold over the counter in some countries. Are they not a relatively reliable method?
They are available insofar as they exist physically within arms reach of you when you enter a vet. Do with that information as you will. Is there a time of day where nobody will be in that building?
 
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iLikeFrogs

iLikeFrogs

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May 5, 2023
98
When I OD'd tylenol as a preteen it was weird. Basically you just wake up next morning throw up and feel like nothing happened. My liver has been doing bad tho
 
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PF011

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Nov 10, 2024
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This is good information but where can I find information about high success rate methods that are easily accessible?
 
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wren-briar

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Jul 1, 2024
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The link I provided takes you to a page where the first, BUT NOT ONLY, thread is "Private Suicide Discussion".

Below that is a section of threads (currently there are 8 threads listed) that is titled " STICKY THREADS", the first of those is this thread (i.e. "Non-methods that should not be attempted"), but it is followed by threads such as "USA elections - note from staff", "Dismantling the allegation that we're pro-suicide.", and others.

READ through ALL of these sticky threads and you will find exactly what you're asking about.
 
Genetic

Genetic

Finding My Way
Dec 5, 2023
13
I find this timing rather comedic cause I recently put up a post about my method of choosing be severing an artery in my neck with a knife. I'm appreciative of the info you've provided. It sucks that the idea of these methods are less practical in reality.
 
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Sophie123

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Nov 18, 2024
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Suicide By Cop
Someone recently made a thread about this but suicide by cop has a low chance of working especially if you are white, a woman, seem middle-upper class, etc. It is not worth the risk of a fine or time in prison. The majority of cops do not want to kill people. I'm not trying to say that there aren't bad cops, because there are, but it's a big gamble.

Toaster in the bathtub
This is a method popularized by the media, mostly, at this point, as a joke. I'm not sure if anyone seriously considers this but if you are, it's not worth it. It may work but likely will not- modern circuits will short (I think...) before the electricity surges enough to kill you.

Car Exhaust or Head in the oven
These two methods used to work because of carbon monoxide given off by the car engine or oven. However, the manufacturing has changed and now neither give off nearly enough CO to kill you.

Alcohol Poisoning
Especially if you have a tolerance, this will not work. Alcohol poisoning by and large kills people when they suffocate into a soft surface or choke on their own vomit. You will vomit up the alcohol (yes, even with AE).

Apple Seeds/Cherry Pits
The quantity of cyanide in these are quite low and can vary so it would be quite difficult to extract enough cyanide to kill you.
Omg do people actually try suicide by cop-
 
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isolatedl111

Experienced
Nov 25, 2024
222
mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.
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Oct 11, 2020
15
Omg do people actually try suicide by cop-
Surprising considering I've mostly seen wholesome comes whether in Europe or America, lol. Though admittedly media does make it seem like the cops will fire 100 rounds into you at the slightest suspicion, lol.
 
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kitkat9234

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Is there even a fool proof way? Why is it so hard to CBT?
 
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mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.
Thank you for the informative post. If I would have read this a year ago my life might be drastically different. Hopefully this some people not make their matters worse.
 
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theEndCH

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Aug 29, 2023
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I had a VSED attempt and almost succseed but then I was send to the hospital under critical conditions..
Short: They saved my life, unfortunately.
 
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