elfgyoza

elfgyoza

Cursed
Aug 5, 2019
326
I'd read the whole article but just the fact that they're behind a pay wall seems kinda sus. They could be talking shit behind that paywall and we might not even know. I do believe SN is gonna be banned soon though. I already got mine luckily. But I feel bad for people who can't get it. They really just want to make everything harder for us. If they would just legalize euthanasia, it's literally that easy. Then less people would try to find weird ways to ctb
I was able to log in via my university, screenshotted the pdf if anyone is interested.
They definitely indirectly mention this forum when they talk about their own research, probably Stan's guide judging by the mention of metoclopramide
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Kramer

Kramer

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Oct 27, 2020
1,398
Aaaaaaaaaaand there's the unscientific bias.
How is it scientific to encourage it? "Oh let's just let anyone die FOR SCIENCE!" Euthanasia for all is never going to happen. It should though for the severely mentally/physically ill.
 
bov

bov

Arcanist
Aug 26, 2020
405
Exactly and out of every profession scientist should understand the most that life doesn't have any meaning or very small meaning.
Most scientists I know feel the opposite way. It's what led them to their field.
 
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StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
Oct 5, 2020
579
I have SN but I wasn't planning on using it yet. Now I'm thinking I should just go ahead and ctb just in case it ever becomes restricted. Thanks pro-lifers, you're driving more towards ctb by making them feel trapped.
 
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Kramer

Kramer

Nervous wreck
Oct 27, 2020
1,398
Most scientists I know feel the opposite way. It's what led them to their field.
Seriously. Why would people in awe of the universe join a field that was nihilistic? Lol
I have SN but I wasn't planning on using it yet. Now I'm thinking I should just go ahead and ctb just in case it ever becomes restricted. Thanks pro-lifers, you're driving more towards ctb by making them feel trapped.
If you already have it, what's the rush???
 
StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
Oct 5, 2020
579
Seriously. Why would people in awe of the universe join a field that was nihilistic? Lol

If you already have it, what's the rush???

It can expire, I basically have a dateline to ctb now
 
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Sakura94

empty
Nov 26, 2020
673
I was able to log in via my university, screenshotted the pdf if anyone is interested.
They definitely indirectly mention this forum when they talk about their own research, probably Stan's guide judging by the mention of metoclopramide

Thank you, It should go on the wiki or whatever. I started reading it and became confused.
Especially this part: "The victim had a DNR bracelet presumably related to some pathology that was not possible to identify"
I thought something like this would be easy to obtain from anywhere since resuscitation is controversial and you shouldn't need
Is the examiner too mindless realize it's related to this specific suicide or is it some formality for the paper?

I'm also curious how long the woman had been dead before these photos were taken.
 
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Heart Shards

The shards of my broken heart cut deep.
Feb 3, 2019
535
IT'S 2020. LEGALIZE VOLUNTARY EUTHENASIA ALREADY
 
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virginiawoolf86

virginiawoolf86

Specialist
Jul 4, 2020
317
My friend just Ctb yesterday thanks to that. I know I should be happy she's at peace but I miss her. I also have sn. Maybe it's time I think about going too. Everyone I love is almost gone.
I'm sorry you lost someone close to you. That can't be easy.

And if you do decide to go, I wish you a peaceful journey friend.
 
Nimbus

Nimbus

Hanging on is hard
Dec 2, 2019
211
Thanks for posting this. Interesting read. Given the journal that published it, I am surprised at the suggestion of restricting SN. They don't typically publish articles that editorialize as it doesn't add credence to their scientific work. Granted, the comments are minimal. As the OP mentioned, it does seem to reference SS, though thankfully not by name.

If nothing else, this article gives us a glimpse of the aftermath of suicide by SN.
 
StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
Oct 5, 2020
579
Oh. Well maybe this news is good in your case

Yes, as if the people in power will just destroy all societies by enabling such a thing. Stop being naive

why would SN potentially being banned be good for anyone
 
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it's_all_a_game

it's_all_a_game

I remember...death in the afternoon...
Nov 7, 2020
356
Unfortunately, it seems as if folks want to have suicide only for those willing to suffer extreme pain in the process.
 
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StringPuppet

StringPuppet

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Oct 5, 2020
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Because you now have a date. Not deciding is a decision, and now life has decided for you.

That doesn't make this a positive lol, banning SN is a huge FU to anyone who will have to use more dangerous methods in the future
 
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Kramer

Kramer

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Oct 27, 2020
1,398
That doesn't make this a positive lol, banning SN is a huge FU to anyone who will have to use more dangerous methods in the future
I said in your case. Overall it's bad
 
LostMyWill

LostMyWill

Member
Nov 22, 2019
40
Funny how they're so quick to restrict any peaceful way for the miserable to exit but have little to no restrictions for irresponsible people reproducing like rabbits.
 
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StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
Oct 5, 2020
579
However you wanted? What does that mean?

SN is typically used for curing meats, that's why it's so easy to get. But if I want to use it to ctb then that's my business and nobody else's, so they have no reason to ban it
 
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Kramer

Kramer

Nervous wreck
Oct 27, 2020
1,398
SN is typically used for curing meats, that's why it's so easy to get. But if I want to use it to ctb then that's my business and nobody else's, so they have no reason to ban it
Are you confusing nitrite and nitrate?
 
peacechoice

peacechoice

Experienced
Oct 11, 2020
205
If I were a slave owner, I'd try (if possible and feasible) to restrict the unsanctioned (without my approval) access of my slaves to easy methods of self-deliverance, and their survival instinct will do the rest.
Gotta fucking hate those at the top. They just need their fucking slave aka US to stay alive long enough to exploit us fuck them.
 
StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
Oct 5, 2020
579
Are you confusing nitrite and nitrate?

Idk am I? That's really besides the point, I don't care how SN is actually used, my point is that if I want to use it to ctb that's my business and not anyone else's.
 
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peacechoice

peacechoice

Experienced
Oct 11, 2020
205
Im very scared it'll be banned and I won't have a way out.
 
Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,877
How is it scientific to encourage it? "Oh let's just let anyone die FOR SCIENCE!" Euthanasia for all is never going to happen. It should though for the severely mentally/physically ill.
Bias either way is unscientific, there's no need to discuss what "should" be done about SN in a scientific paper. And I disagree that euthanasia for all is definitely never going to happen, I think there's a possibility that it might one day.
 
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Kramer

Kramer

Nervous wreck
Oct 27, 2020
1,398
Idk am I? That's really besides the point, I don't care how SN is actually used, my point is that if I want to use it to ctb that's my business and not anyone else's.
Arguing with me isn't going to change legislation so this is pointless.