HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

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That's interesting may I ask where you had it tested ? And what % purity the tests returned
If in the chance you encounter powdered nembutal, Energy Control located in Spain (recommended in the PPH) allows for you to submit samples to them. More information is available in the PPH.
 
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dandan

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scammers evolution, sure if you believe a new guy who found a dark net nembutal source... feel free to try and tell us your experience... be open about it...

I personally wouldn't risk it... but what will I do if my N comes to near expiration date and I decide not to use it?

I might wanna sell it, would I be a labeled a scammer too?
 
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scammers evolution, sure if you believe a new guy who found a dark net nembutal source... feel free to try and tell us your experience... be open about it...

I personally wouldn't risk it... but what will I do if my N comes to near expiration date and I decide not to use it?

I might wanna sell it, would I be a labeled a scammer too?
Probably yes dandan. If you decide not to use it, simply throw it away.
 
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The man I bought it from had it tested, sorry if that was misleading. Should I be wary of this stuff? The man I bought it from has great reviews on the market with one customer claiming it was of good quality. Should I buy from A instead? And jeez, I didn't know I was joining a militant group of suicidal people, I just wanted some information lol.
Sound a bit dodgy. I wouldn't be confident that it is what it is because it's been tested. You don't no if its been tested or not
 
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I might wanna sell it, would I be a labeled a scammer too?
How about simply not using this website as a marketplace – you know, following the rules – and then not having to worry about if anyone thinks you're a scammer
 
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How about simply not using this website as a marketplace – you know, following the rules – and then not having to worry about if anyone thinks you're a scammer
Good point.
 
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Buying N in the dark web,from China sounds like a scam
 
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If in the chance you encounter powdered nembutal, Energy Control located in Spain (recommended in the PPH) allows for you to submit samples to them. More information is available in the PPH.

I know all about Energy Control In Spain and their results :-)
Good luck with accurate % of purity from them.

The last source of Powder N pushed by Exit > Aemon Chemical was a scam. Don't believe everything you see.
 
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I know all about Energy Control In Spain and their results :-)
Good luck with accurate % of purity from them.
Personally am not a fan of tu quoque. You're suggesting that you know about Energy Control, and their testing results with some condescending attitude towards them, Since you seem to hold this self-proclaimed "key" that their tests are not accurate, why not actually post something criticizing them with evidence? And if it's word by mouth then it really means jack shit.

We're all here for generally the same thing. We all want to CTB in the most reliable way possible. If you hold knowledgeable information about something, especially in a situation like this, why not post it..?
 
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Hey everybody. So I have 20g of Nembutal and I'm wondering how long you think it will take for me to go unconscious after I drink it. Like will I have time to get into bed or will I just pass out then and there on the ground. Any insight would be appreciated.


If its real within 3 minutes yo are gone.
And then your body will shutdown and die in a hour
 
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Personally am not a fan of tu quoque. You're suggesting that you know about Energy Control, and their testing results with some condescending attitude towards them, Since you seem to hold this self-proclaimed "key" that their tests are not accurate, why not actually post something criticizing them with evidence? And if it's word by mouth then it really means jack shit.

We're all here for generally the same thing. We all want to CTB in the most reliable way possible. If you hold knowledgeable information about something, especially in a situation like this, why not post it..?

Your welcome to make your own decision about the EC Lab it really doesn't matter to me. Its true honest advice.
Pay your money and find out yourself with test results.

The info has been shared with people I trust via PM whether they confirm is up to them.
As for Posting Detailed Info on a Public Forum that can be tracked and spoil options for others sadly no.
If that vindicates your opinion and people pay for the service fine be me.

If you are not aware of the > Aemon Chemical fiasco where many paid for a worthless product your again welcome to believe it or not.
 
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HelensNepenthe

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Your welcome to make your own decision about the EC Lab it really doesn't matter to me. Its true honest advice.
Pay your money and find out yourself with test results.

The info has been shared with people I trust via PM whether they confirm is up to them.
As for Posting Detailed Info on a Public Forum that can be tracked and spoil options for others sadly no.
If that vindicates your opinion and people pay for the service fine be me.

If you are not aware of the > Aemon Chemical fiasco where many paid for a worthless product your again welcome to believe it or not.
Surely in some degree the situation matters to you if you are:
  1. Making claims that EC doesn't provide accurate testing
  2. Telling people about alleged claims in PMs and giving them other options. Circumventing a rule on the forum, perhaps?
This sounds like some shilling to get others to go through other vendors to get drugs (or pentobarbital in this case) tested. Anyone can make accusations. Go for it. EC, the company that is backed in the PPH, has some reputation to them. There have been a handful of investigative journalists who have talked to them about what they're doing. A search online will backup this claim. Wired has responded to them. Simon Hunter, a Spanish->English translator for El Pais just published an article about them earlier this afternoon. Actually, a quick search on that newspaper leads to me a handful of articles talking about the authenticity of testing that they do.

There's always a risk of sending packages internationally to a research facility. It isn't cheap either. There are also plenty of other companies that do this. Perhaps not testing pentobarbital, but they do offer other select services.

Not really interested in hearing detailed information. What I'm worried about is you mentioning how a company isn't doing reliable testing and say zip about it. It's a loaded accusation that genuinely means nothing. I have more faith in the amount of work journalists have done with this company than I have some shilling in PMs of other options.

Normally I wouldn't put much effort into arguing online with someone... but I do believe that people should be given information about not getting fucked over.

~~~

You've mentioned the scandal of a company being recommended for powder pentobarbital. I know nothing about it and it really doesn't change my opinion about Exit. You take a risk when going through these services. You should know willingly if you're putting money into these underground services that you have the chance of getting ripped. While it isn't feasible for each and everyone on this forum, if you're purchasing as an example N online through A, make sure you can cover your losses. No reason to put money towards this that you'd use for a mortage bill. Users on this forum (and even across other forums) have mentioned that Diego isn't a reliable seller. Yet for some reason he is still mentioned in the latest edition I have of PPH. Another accusation is the reliability of sodium nitrite.

Generally, what Exit does, is fine with me. There's going to be misinformation floating around but at least they're giving people a nice direction at ending their lives. Something that I respect a lot from Philip and co.

Edit: I expected as much to hear "it's friends of friends" thing. It's a trend on here and people fall into it. Be a skeptic when you hear this kind of shit. It really opens the opportunity for people to prey on you wanting to end your life.
 
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As I said quite plainly make your own decision about the EC Lab. It's your money.
 
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Surely in some degree the situation matters to you if you are:
  1. Making claims that EC doesn't provide accurate testing
  2. Telling people about alleged claims in PMs and giving them other options. Circumventing a rule on the forum, perhaps?
This sounds like some shilling to get others to go through other vendors to get drugs (or pentobarbital in this case) tested. Anyone can make accusations. Go for it. EC, the company that is backed in the PPH, has some reputation to them. There have been a handful of investigative journalists who have talked to them about what they're doing. A search online will backup this claim. Wired has responded to them. Simon Hunter, a Spanish->English translator for El Pais just published an article about them earlier this afternoon. Actually, a quick search on that newspaper leads to me a handful of articles talking about the authenticity of testing that they do.

There's always a risk of sending packages internationally to a research facility. It isn't cheap either. There are also plenty of other companies that do this. Perhaps not testing pentobarbital, but they do offer other select services.

Not really interested in hearing detailed information. What I'm worried about is you mentioning how a company isn't doing reliable testing and say zip about it. It's a loaded accusation that genuinely means nothing. I have more faith in the amount of work journalists have done with this company than I have some shilling in PMs of other options.

Normally I wouldn't put much effort into arguing online with someone... but I do believe that people should be given information about not getting fucked over.

~~~

You've mentioned the scandal of a company being recommended for powder pentobarbital. I know nothing about it and it really doesn't change my opinion about Exit. You take a risk when going through these services. You should know willingly if you're putting money into these underground services that you have the chance of getting ripped. While it isn't feasible for each and everyone on this forum, if you're purchasing as an example N online through A, make sure you can cover your losses. No reason to put money towards this that you'd use for a mortage bill. Users on this forum (and even across other forums) have mentioned that Diego isn't a reliable seller. Yet for some reason he is still mentioned in the latest edition I have of PPH. Another accusation is the reliability of sodium nitrite.

Generally, what Exit does, is fine with me. There's going to be misinformation floating around but at least they're giving people a nice direction at ending their lives. Something that I respect a lot from Philip and co.

Edit: I expected as much to hear "it's friends of friends" thing. It's a trend on here and people fall into it. Be a skeptic when you hear this kind of shit. It really opens the opportunity for people to prey on you wanting to end your life.
If you've been on the old PPH forums, you probably know some members there have commented a lot about issues with EC testing. I remember i thought about this at the time and ask myself if this could be happening because people have a very hard time accepting bad results? Because in the later days of J, the results of testing his powder were pretty awful. I also remember that Philip and the forum staff insisted there is nothing wrong with the lab.
 
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If you've been on the old PPH forums, you probably know some members there have commented a lot about issues with EC testing. I remember i thought about this at the time and ask myself if this could be happening because people have a very hard time accepting bad results? Because in the later days of J, the results of testing his powder were pretty awful. I also remember that Philip and the forum staff insisted there is nothing wrong with the lab.
Thank you for providing insight. Comments like this are valuable instead of "I PM'd someone about this". You didn't do anything wrong besides be transparent about possible events with EC on the older forums. This is what people should be hearing and not a person stating "pay for a service but I know you're not going to get accurate testing" which is meaningless.
 
dandan

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I bought my N at a vet shop...
I can see the bottle is new and has the aluminium thing on top, difficult to fake......

Hey everybody. So I have 20g of Nembutal and I'm wondering how long you think it will take for me to go unconscious after I drink it. Like will I have time to get into bed or will I just pass out then and there on the ground. Any insight would be appreciated.

Have you taken little zip to taste it? have you taken little drink? if its powder I dunno if you can snort it....

you plan on using your chinese powders any time soon? Would you tell us about it?
 
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Thank you for providing insight. Comments like this are valuable instead of "I PM'd someone about this". You didn't do anything wrong besides be transparent about possible events with EC on the older forums. This is what people should be hearing and not a person stating "pay for a service but I know you're not going to get accurate testing" which is meaningless.

Thats great advice from someone who Posts details of a Lab Service to others without any experience of using it themselves.
Fair play to you.

You were given advice and chose to ignore it and reply without doing any research or finding out relative facts.

It's not my responsibility to convince you otherwise.
 
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Thats great advice from someone who Posts details of a Lab Service to others without any experience of using it themselves.
Fair play to you.
You're getting sensitive over this since you got called out. The user I quoted gave a little bit of something for anyone to research. Unlike you, where you mentioned that you sent people PMs and how they they can come out to confirm. Which isn't going to happen since you made a big spiel that you're private about any information of your claims. I really don't buy it. Plus, just because someone rights "I was told this" doesn't mean it's a genuine vouch!

You were given advice and chose to ignore it and reply without doing any research or finding out relative facts.

Nowhere in your post did you give anyone advice besides "don't use this service because i have private information that says not to". Yeah, that's really great advice. Anyone can assert that. It doesn't mean it is right! Again, it's an attempt at a tuo quoque and I'm not fond of it. Maybe that got you somewhere to shill a service to others in PMs. You're openly suggesting that someone can't give you criticism about how moronic and babyish you sound. If you really felt the way you did about defaming a service and wanting to make sure people don't get bad cuts, I think you'd be open to talking about the tests and how not-credible they are. 'Cause you sure made that passive aggressive remark about them.

Anyway, don't give me that line about how I didn't look any of this up. Your bold claim about a company besides you PM people isn't anything special. I gave you two journalistic resources that are recent.

It's not my responsibility to convince you otherwise.
Your head is so far up your ass. You made an accusation and won't follow up with it because it's to "private". I'm not asking (or anyone for that matter) for you to disclose the private details of people who have used this service. Like others reading this forum, since y'know, it's a public forum; they want to know something factual why others shouldn't use their service.
 
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Memento Mori

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If its real within 3 minutes yo are gone.
And then your body will shutdown and die in a hour

may take up to 24 hours, you can still be saved, maybe you return with brain damage instead of ctb. just mentioning
 
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The only person getting sensitive and rude is yourself sadly that's obvious by your replies :-)

You Promoted a service to others that you have no experience of using yourself ( fact )
as I said > Fair play to you.

I stated >
I know all about Energy Control In Spain and their results :-)
Good luck with accurate % of purity from them

Whether you wish to accept that advice is your choice.

I have nothing to prove if people want to use Energy Control that's their choice and if you want to promote them fine.
So I don't see your problem. You can be known as their PR officer.

What Info I share with others in PM is their business and mine. If that bothers you tough :-)

Be careful you don't wet yourself with excitement lol
 
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may take up to 24 hours, you can still be saved, maybe you return with brain damage instead of ctb. just mentioning

up to 24 hours? with 20gr?

well there's always some doubt... and uncertainty...

its recommended Not to be found. and thats more important than the amount of Nembutal in gr.

maybe a single bottle 6.3gr of the ingredient could work, specially if you are not to be found.... thats the most important part.
 
Memento Mori

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up to 24 hours? with 20gr?

if you somehow have tolerance and didn't think about it because you thought nembutal works on it's own special receptors you may fuck up. and many other little "problems" that could occur in a human body. nembutal often gets praised compared to other breath depressants, but in the end it's the same as other hypnotics/anesthetics, just the one with the biggest chances of success
i didn't hear anything anymore from the people i've known here who took N.
 
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Memento Mori
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like if you had ridden the bus several times...
 
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like if you had ridden the bus several times...

i never went trough with trying to ctb, only got nearly run over by a car with 7 and poisoned myself sometimes with polytoxicomany (serotonine syndrome dxm and stuff). but when i wanted to die, no cuts and no drug combinations harmed me lol, i'm b-b-b-bulletproof. sadly...
 
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Johnnythefox

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You lucky bastard. I got scammed out of $500 trying to get N from the onions
He has shown absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up his claim, I could say that I've obtained the elixir of life from Ebay and it's real because it says so on the packet, does that therefore validate me claim?
 
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Just want to say my opinion about the subject of cross-tolerance. It is true that benzodiazepines and barbiturates (among other hypnotics/sedatives) act on the same receptors (GABAA), but each with their own site of action and no affinity for any other subunit of the GABAA receptor, therefore i think there is no cross-tolerance between them. I haven't seen a clear mechanism by which this may happen so i'm not convinced cross-tolerance could be an issue. This situation is different from the opioids/opiates where each has its own site of action but also a certain degree of affinity for all the other subunits, in this case cross-tolerance is possible. I do agree though that making sure you won't be discovered too early is a very important thing to take care of. Also, brain damage could be possible if you've been found not breathing and somehow revived minutes after you've stopped breathing. Of course there might be other issues which could complicate this method like liver issues (metabolism) or gastrointestinal problems (absorbtion).
 
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He has shown absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up his claim, I could say that I've obtained the elixir of life from Ebay and it's real because it says so on the packet, does that therefore validate me claim?
You are absolutely correct. Thanks for reminding me.
 
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You lucky bastard. I got scammed out of $500 trying to get N from the onions
Yeah, he's so lucky that many some will ask him for the contact and will get zilch lol
 
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