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frommolecules2stars

Born, survive, reproduce, die.
Dec 23, 2024
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Our universe was established via random chance. No purpose or intent behind events. Just purely laws, particles and molecules interacting with each other.

Then by chance of molecules combining, life came into existence. It evolved at pure random, relying on mutations and outside factors. These organisms evolved to have a survival instinct to keep themselves intact and living for as long as possible. And when these actors found themselves surrounded by other actors and various parts of the stage (environment), on that scale, meaning was created. With meaning, with those close interactions, consciousness began to arise.

But free will is not a scientifically proven thing. Neuroscientists theorize that rather than one consciousness, we have multiple that are not aware of each other. And I theorize that these consciousnesses were formed particularly because of the close interactions with other material and organisms on our scale. To take in information and find a meaning to it.

However, the universe does not function on eternal and unwavering meanings. It functions on randomness, or disorder. So when an organism— with a consciousness that evolved in an environment in which meaning was supposed to be found— finds no fixed meanings because the universe does not function that way the organism becomes distressed. On the scale of the Earth, we can find common meanings and facts in terms of our sizable interactions. But philosophical and moral meanings hold no objective truths. Our consciousness is incompatible with our universe.

Intelligence is an important role in consciousness. The more you observe, the more patterns you find, the more facts you can discover and prove.. until you get to the scale that most of us are at. Complex and beyond us. Having a certain amount of knowledge can increase our consciousness making us more aware of our incompatibility with the universe. This is why higher intelligence is correlated with being depressed or other mental illness.

Essentially, mental illness is going past the basic fundamentals of evolution: to live enough to reproduce, to keeping your body alive and intact for as long as possible, to imagine yourself having a purpose. It is realizing that beyond our scale, there are no set meanings.

So we are comfortable with our purpose to be reproducing as long as we are simple. But we started to live longer. We started to be able to observe more which lead to increased consciousness and intelligence.

On our society's scale in terms of pro-life, many people are focused on deluding themselves to keep finding meaning and purpose. It's why humanity is invaded with different ideologies. But when others experience enough random events that are stress inducing, when they experience enough exploitation and suffering, they move on from the society and desperately try to find new meanings. But they struggle because it is impossible to go against majority as it makes up our entire environment. And when they allude to going against what society says, it labels them as mentally ill. This is alienation between ourselves and our society. And broadly, this is alienation between our biology and the universe.
 
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CravingPeace

It’s only a matter of time
Feb 19, 2025
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You are clearly a very intelligent individual. Very well put.
 
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frommolecules2stars

Born, survive, reproduce, die.
Dec 23, 2024
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You are clearly a very intelligent individual. Very well put.
Thank you. I feel like I do lack some vocabulary in what I'm trying to describe, unfortunately. I'm just glad others were able to understand so my verbiage is good enough.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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Oct 12, 2024
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Yeah, human intelligence is a joke, a myth and a lie. You do what you are told and believe what you are taught to believe.

This sounds like unhinged ranting but I truly believe we are all pieces on a chess board , pawns , knights, bishops, kings and queens.

Example: most pawns can't kill animals as it would render them vegan and unable to work after dying of starvation , so the knights kill the cows for them then use the bishops to sell them lies and make them eat up to stay big and strong to serve the king and queen. You can interchange some of the words here with war, rape , homicide, slavery, etc. Most people can't do it, it's the truth, most people can't kill nor incite violence, they can laugh all they want to and say whatever they want to believe it, they can't kill, it would break them in one way or another and leave them undesirable for their masters. This too is a pathetic "evolutionary trait", appear big to scare the bear away but you'd do fuck all if it charged at you.

The premise is: bread and circuses to keep the many pawns happy and strong to work. When it doesn't work and the bread is stale and the circus gets boring, we get a revolution once in a while, wow so happy for that. I never understood that argument, as in a revolution being good outside from getting rid of some evil bastards, revolutions happen when people don't like shit, well if they don't like the quality of bread and circuses , they make a revolution and then what are they gonna go back to when it's over? discovering the meaning of life???? NO! BACK TO BREAD AND CIRCUSES, preferably good ones! because that's all what they want!


WE HAVE NO FUCKING PLACE HERE , no revolution can change that, unless you people have a plan for us to make a revolution and take over, we will never get any kind of peace honestly. We as "mentally ill" have no rights nor place in this world, through the eyes of the rich we are different colored sheep and through the eyes of our fellow sheep, we are monsters.

Edit: we don't play their made up game how they want and they get mad like it's kindergarten but they actually have the power to ruin our lives because of it, hence the mental illness tag the original poster is talking about and the inhumane and downright useless treatments we get, it's a snarky reminder that "you are like me , you are weak, insignificant but I have more numbers , so you will do as I say as to not ruin my illusion of not being an insignificant pawn of the billionaires"
 
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MathConspiracy

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Mar 25, 2025
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I feel like most of us here are more sane than the ordinary people out there who scorn this site.
 
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CeaseExist

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Feb 20, 2025
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Another interesting thing to add as perhaps some kind of example, or maybe more a proof is that it just takes one look at stories humanity produces most of the time.

they all have PURPOSE, they have MEANING and one that is defined well at that, with well cut-out objectives, it's never randomness showed, not even in simple reality shows or sitcoms - there is always some main theme, main driving force behind everyone and everything.

people naturally yearn towards purpose, some explanation of their own being, existence - a grand justification to them experiencing life itself, they want everything to be neatly labeled, categorized, quantifiable, something you can explain and of course they want everything to have answers, the easier the better.

and then we have some outliers, which someday woke up and realized, that this is nothing close to purposeful, meaningful - and you feel alien in a world you are naturally part of, yet you see, you feel, hear the emptiness of it all, you watch as your brethren throws itself into completely meaningless squabbles and activities, partaking in the insanity of this dance macabre of ideologies and justifications.

How can you function "normally" while being aware?
 
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