Venting My fear is that if I kill myself I'm going to hell...

[ultrasharpy123456]

I can't ctb today because even though my brother's asleep I am eating a Jamaican beef patty and that's my first meal of the day so since I just ate I can't use my SN.

Anyways, watching some pastors cast out demons and seeing the people violently shake makes me question my own faith. It's like, "What if al the Christianity stuff is real?" I don't want it to be real but how can you make up what those people experience in those churches?

I don't want to go to hell.

 

[letsalllovelain:3]

I'm also afraid of hell. Well, not only of hell - but also of reincarnation. I legit don't want to go through this shit again.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me this harmful world is the only hell that exists, I only fear existing here rather than fictional concepts. This world where there is unlimited potential to suffer truly is hell and that is undeniable but anyway I think that religion is just a way to brainwash people.

 

[tiyijinn]

Christianity is pretty stupid. How do you know it's not only the suicidal people who get to go to heaven or whatever? It makes no sense. There is no afterlife, just nothingness. Which is more than good enough for me, that's Heaven.

 

[RichardFirst]

I am a Christian, and I do not believe for an instant that God would punish someone with eternal torment for self-deletion. Many scholars have written about this, and there is no Biblical support to the claim that suicides are damned. The Catholic Church holds suicide to be "wrong", but it does not state that victims of suicide will go to hell.

 

[NambaSutra]

Another possible Christian interpretation is that suicide is a sin but sins have been forgiven for 2000 years.

 

[tatteredbone]

I am not Christian or catholic but imo, if a god put us in this world with all this pain and is a divine being, he sees the possibility of us ctb, if he truly disliked us doing it or considered it a sin he would stop us instead of "abandoning". but that is my personal beliefs.

 

[downndone2]

I fear he'll, would be okay with reincarnation, but hope to see those who've passed before me even if they're full of shame for me I guess

 

[ultrasharpy123456]

To me this harmful world is the only hell that exists, I only fear existing here rather than fictional concepts. This world where there is unlimited potential to suffer truly is hell and that is undeniable but anyway I think that religion is just a way to brainwash people.

I agree. I want to believe the biblical hell isn't real but unfortunately seeing pastors cast out demons on youtube has converted me.

I am a Christian, and I do not believe for an instant that God would punish someone with eternal torment for self-deletion. Many scholars have written about this, and there is no Biblical support to the claim that suicides are damned. The Catholic Church holds suicide to be "wrong", but it does not state that victims of suicide will go to hell.

I mean I guess so. I dunno for sure. I just don't want to fuck up

I am not Christian or catholic but imo, if a god put us in this world with all this pain and is a divine being, he sees the possibility of us ctb, if he truly disliked us doing it or considered it a sin he would stop us instead of "abandoning". but that is my personal beliefs.

Yeah pretty much.

 

[Escapee]

Going to hell was my biggest dread when I decided to ctb. But after reading the bible and counseling the holy spirit I learned that I never go to hell for ending my life. If I go to hell it is only for not believing in jesus. But I believe in jesus so I know I don't have to worry about going to hell.

 

[exploitedbacteria]

The concept of hell was created as a fear tactic to control the masses, simple as that. All fear is based on illusion, deception or delusional thinking. If you have no proof hell exists… then guess what, it doesn't. The fear comes from believing in things that aren't real or haven't actually happened. As soon as I believe in a god, I'm introducing fear into my life because god isn't real. Things that are real are the things you can touch, see, taste, hear and experience. Deviations from logical, critical thinking will always induce a fear response. You are afraid of something that doesn't exist except within your mind. The mind is very powerful and you can create a world of illusion based on certain filters indoctrinated into your subconscious.… you will then live in fear. Stick to the facts and you'll be okay.

 

[ultrasharpy123456]

Going to hell was my biggest dread when I decided to ctb. But after reading the bible and counseling the holy spirit I learned that I never go to hell for ending my life. If I go to hell it is only for not believing in jesus. But I believe in jesus so I know I don't have to worry about going to hell.

Hmm. That sounds pretty good. Perhaps I should adopt this mindset.

The concept of hell was created as a fear tactic to control the masses, simple as that. All fear is based on illusion, deception or delusional thinking. If you have no proof hell exists… then guess what, it doesn't. The fear comes from believing in things that aren't real or haven't actually happened. As soon as I believe in a god, I'm introducing fear into my life because god isn't real. Things that are real are the things you can touch, see, taste, hear and experience. Deviations from logical, critical thinking will always induce a fear response. You are afraid of something that doesn't exist except within your mind. The mind is very powerful and you can create a world of illusion based on certain filters indoctrinated into your subconscious.… you will then live in fear. Stick to the facts and you'll be okay.

But how do you explain stuff like this?


He completely healed her.

 

[RhapsodyinBerserk]

Even if you don't believe in hell, with all the different interpretations of the afterlife there's got to be something on the other side…then again there's probably a good chance nothing exists…the only thing we can say is when you die bro…you're dead bro.

 

[Escapee]

Hmm. That sounds pretty good. Perhaps I should adopt this mindset.

But how do you explain stuff like this?


He completely healed her.

You can pm me if you want to talk about it more

 

[exploitedbacteria]

Hmm. That sounds pretty good. Perhaps I should adopt this mindset.

But how do you explain stuff like this?


He completely healed her.

These people have been proven to be con artists time and time again. If you believe in superstitions and that you will go to hell then I don't recommend suicide.

Think critically and dissect the situation.

Who is the guy doing these supposed healings? Who is the woman receiving it? Who are the people in the video? Where is the proof she has these ailments? Have you ever experienced a religious or spiritual healing profound enough to support this? Is there any chance that the experience of a healing could be subjectively exclusive to being experienced in the mind, a form of delusional thinking, mental illness? Could this be a form of suggestive thinking, a placebo?

Do you have sources for information on this "healer"? Are there accounts of his behaviors being fraudulent?

So many questions.

 

[ultrasharpy123456]

These people have been proven to be con artists time and time again. If you believe in superstitions and that you will go to hell then I don't recommend suicide.

Think critically and dissect the situation.

Who is the guy doing these supposed healings? Who is the woman receiving it? Who are the people in the video? Where is the proof she has these ailments? Have you ever experienced a religious or spiritual healing profound enough to support this? Is there any chance that the experience of a healing could be subjectively exclusive to being experienced in the mind, a form of delusional thinking, mental illness? Could this be a form of suggestive thinking, a placebo?

Do you have sources for information on this "healer"? Are there accounts of his behaviors being fraudulent?

So many questions.

Ah that's all true. It just makes me worry is all. Again I wish I could believe there is no hell like you could but I've been brainwashed to say the least...

 

[exploitedbacteria]

Ah that's all true. It just makes me worry is all. Again I wish I could believe there is no hell like you could but I've been brainwashed to say the least...

Me too, I was raised catholic and went to catholic schools. It's very difficult to change the indoctrination we've been handed. We are born and trust our parents, teachers, preachers, etc. Unfortunately most of the time these people don't have our best interests at heart.

If you are struggling with these concepts of religion, guilt and fear, etc. then suicide might be too much for you and I'd recommend looking deeper into what religions or spiritual thinking really mean to you. I don't recommend just ending your life in sheer terror of a punitive afterlife.

 

[unplug]

If you are sent to hell for your sufferings by the deity of your choice then maybe then you'll realize that god wasn't all mighty or all loving.

Just my thoughts.

 

[LateForTheBus]

I was raised Catholic but stopped believing in my early teens. In the years since, I've been atheist, agnostic, and now Christian again. I'll admit that a tiny part of me is worried about hell just because of the beliefs that were forced on me during my formative years. But, I find it hard to believe that a loving God would punish me for the mental and physical health issues that are leading to my CTBing. I don't believe He punishes those who are sick. Besides, all that's needed to get into Heaven is the belief that Christ died for our sins. And, God created us to have free will. So....lots of reason to not worry about hell. ((Hugs))

 

[nosoul]

I can't ctb today because even though my brother's asleep I am eating a Jamaican beef patty and that's my first meal of the day so since I just ate I can't use my SN.

Anyways, watching some pastors cast out demons and seeing the people violently shake makes me question my own faith. It's like, "What if al the Christianity stuff is real?" I don't want it to be real but how can you make up what those people experience in those churches?

I don't want to go to hell.

There is invaluable wisdom, but maybe purgatory. A loving God would be empathetic to intense suffering I feel, and ending it but yeah u fear hell too

 

[sheepgirl]

I fear this too. I fear I will be tortured or sent back to do life again. I just want a forever sleep

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

I can't ctb today because even though my brother's asleep I am eating a Jamaican beef patty and that's my first meal of the day so since I just ate I can't use my SN.

Anyways, watching some pastors cast out demons and seeing the people violently shake makes me question my own faith. It's like, "What if al the Christianity stuff is real?" I don't want it to be real but how can you make up what those people experience in those churches?

I don't want to go to hell.

Im scared too. I know it probably doesnt exist and im atheist and religion is all just a bullshit cope for the working class to not off themselves, but the thought of my current suffering being replaced with infinetly high and endlessly eternal torture and agony fucking horrifies me. I hope nothing comes after death

 

[headcase95]

There is no God, heaven or hell. Just eternal nothingness.

 

[epic]

Hmm. That sounds pretty good. Perhaps I should adopt this mindset.

But how do you explain stuff like this?


He completely healed her.

They are likely to be paid actors .

 

[macrocosm]

I can't ctb today because even though my brother's asleep I am eating a Jamaican beef patty and that's my first meal of the day so since I just ate I can't use my SN.

Anyways, watching some pastors cast out demons and seeing the people violently shake makes me question my own faith. It's like, "What if al the Christianity stuff is real?" I don't want it to be real but how can you make up what those people experience in those churches?

I don't want to go to hell.

Not to offend anyone, but seriously? There's no such thing.

If you're Viking then your hell would be a frozen wasteland (they lived in the north and hard winters meant no food and hardship), if you're Jewish you don't have a hell (god's chosen people)

Some religions don't even have an afterlife, some you become a star or a constellation or heavenly body, or a spirit of nature. The vast majority of afterlife beliefs don't even have a reward/punishment philosophy. That's pretty much Christianity and Islam.

Afterlife beliefs have existed for 10's of thousands of years as seen in ancient burial excavations, predating 'hell and heaven' stories by thousands of years.

Everyone is free to invent whatever stories they want to cope with the fear and/or feelings of loss related to death. But do you really believe anyone deserves to burn for all eternity for behaving according to the nature they were created with?

 

[endless_pain]

I used to somewhat believe to the statement that if you suicide you go to hell, but not more when I realized that the hell is this world, especially for people trapped in toxic situations

 

[WorthlessCoward]

This place is pretty hellish if you ask me

 

[TowerRoad]

When I have suicidal thoughts I think about hell or reincarnation. But then I remember that I don't believe in God. I do believe in Karma and that's when reincarnation/Karma comes to my mind. What if I'm reborn with worse mental health issues or a worst living situation?

 

[quietxconfessions]

"If god exists he will have to beg for my mercy".

 

[nosoul]

When I have suicidal thoughts I think about hell or reincarnation. But then I remember that I don't believe in God. I do believe in Karma and that's when reincarnation/Karma comes to my mind. What if I'm reborn with worse mental health issues or a worst living situation?

Scary